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VZ-10M correct Sysex settings

VZ-10M correct Sysex settings

2014-01-14 by <mw9056@...>

After many frustrating attempts to send sysex patch banks to my VZ-10M, I found a combination that works! I wanted to share my findings with the community so others might avoid injuring themselves/gear/brain cells.

Set Exclusive=ENA under Menu 3-04
Set Internal=OFF under Menu 3-01
Set Save/Load=LOAD, Card/MIDI=MIDI, Data=VC+OP under Menu 3-02
Set the MIDI receive channel to 1 under Menu 3-03

For some reason, my VZ-10M would show an "Error check system" until I finally set the MIDI receive channel to 1. Don't know why this magically worked, but it did.

If using MIDI-OX, open the Sysex view and Configure buffers:
Low level input and output buffers both set to 128 bytes, 8 number.
Delay between buffers 100, delay after F7 checked and set to 60.

This also works in Bome's Send SX without any extra changes in that program.
Thank you to everyone who contributed patch banks. I've tried 3 so far that sound great.

Re: [CZ-VZ-Files] VZ-10M correct Sysex settings

2014-01-15 by sebounet@bluemail.ch

Great, and thank's for this professional information. I transmitted it directly to www.audiofanzine.fr. People still using VZ1/VZ10M are quite rare nowadays, and the quality of this topic is good enough, so as to be spread to all it's users.
Happy thank's from a Swiss user of VZ1.
----Message d'origine----
De : mw9056@...
Date : 14/01/2014 - 22:55 (UTC)
A : CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [CZ-VZ-Files] VZ-10M correct Sysex settings
 
  
    
      
      
      
After many frustrating attempts to send sysex patch banks to my VZ-10M, I found a combination that works! I wanted to share my findings with the community so others might avoid injuring themselves/gear/brain cells.
Set Exclusive=ENA under Menu 3-04
Set Internal=OFF under Menu 3-01
Set Save/Load=LOAD, Card/MIDI=MIDI, Data=VC+OP under Menu 3-02
Set the MIDI receive channel to 1 under Menu 3-03
For some reason, my VZ-10M would show an "Error check system" until I finally set the MIDI receive channel to 1. Don't know why this magically worked, but it did.
If using MIDI-OX, open the Sysex view and Configure buffers:
Low level input and output buffers both set to 128 bytes, 8 number.
Delay between buffers 100, delay after F7 checked and set to 60.
This also works in Bome's Send SX without any extra changes in that program.
Thank you to everyone who contributed patch banks. I've tried 3 so far that sound great.

RE: VZ-10M correct Sysex settings

2014-01-15 by <minimalist74@...>

All in MENU 3:

01
————–
INTERNAL = OFF

02
————–
SAVE/LOAD = LOAD
CARD/MIDI = MIDI
DATA = VC + OP

<EXECUTE = ****> (Final press YES)

03
————–
RECEIVE CH = 01

04
————–
PROG NO = 0~127
EXCLUSIVE = ENA (SysEx on)
CONT NO = OFF
VOLUME = ENA

If you get a “MIDI Error Buffer Full” alert - the transfer-speed is to high:
1% = 17 Bytes/sec
my success of highest speed was 4% (10 min). (2% = 20 minutes)
Somebody said, the problem could be the Midi Hardware.
I could not test it yet.

Re: VZ-10M correct Sysex settings

2014-01-15 by fzfan26116161

Nice that you shared those steps. (I have the VZ-8m, so its similar.) The settings are really random, though if you haven't done it in a while, the cheat sheet helps. But if you loose the cheat sheet, knowing what the functions do will help you to reconstruct the proper setup.

Here's what the settings are on the VZ-8m:
The EXCLUSIVE parameter lets you tell the VZ to ignore sysex commands (DIS) or to pay attention to them (ENA).
The MEM PROTECT parameter lets you tell the VZ to reject (ON) or accept (OFF) changes to memory (stored patches, etc.)
As for LOAD, you need to match the data type (VOICE, OPMEM, VC+OP, FULL) you are trying to load.
And, as you discovered, the midi channel also has to match the file.

from http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/2085

Here are the error messages I have been getting when sending VZ sysex
data to the VZ-8m. (See my previous message about channel and data
type matching.)
---------------------------------------------------------------
Message: --TRANS ERROR--- | CHECK SYSTEM!
Problem: Data channel <> VZ receive channel
Solution: Change VZ channel to match sysex file data.

Message: --MIDI ERROR--- | RECEIVE ERROR
Problem: Data type transmitted <> Data type expected
Solution: Select proper data type when loading data type into VZ.
---------------------------------------------------------------

I remember when it was a mystery because I didn't understand what the parameters did. And of course, I keep going back to the cheat sheet myself when I have been away from using the VZ.

See also: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/2084

02 MEM PROTECT - Switch INTERNAL to OFF
04 MIDI CHANNEL - Set midi channel to channel of data
05 MIDI DATA - Switch ECLUSIVE to ENA [enabled]
03 SAVE/LOAD - LOAD/SAVE > MIDI > [data type] > YES, YES

Note: It seems that data type must be matched. In order to
sucessfully load data that was stored as Voice + Op-Mem data, I had
to set up the VZ to accept that type of data.

Look similar?  

Anyhow--Welcome to the wonderful world of the VZ!! 

Steve

--- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, <mw9056@...> wrote:
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>
> After many frustrating attempts to send sysex patch banks to my VZ-10M, I found a combination that works! I wanted to share my findings with the community so others might avoid injuring themselves/gear/brain cells.
> 
> Set Exclusive=ENA under Menu 3-04
> Set Internal=OFF under Menu 3-01
> Set Save/Load=LOAD, Card/MIDI=MIDI, Data=VC+OP under Menu 3-02
> Set the MIDI receive channel to 1 under Menu 3-03
> 
> For some reason, my VZ-10M would show an "Error check system" until I finally set the MIDI receive channel to 1. Don't know why this magically worked, but it did.
> 
> If using MIDI-OX, open the Sysex view and Configure buffers:
> Low level input and output buffers both set to 128 bytes, 8 number.
> Delay between buffers 100, delay after F7 checked and set to 60.
> 
> This also works in Bome's Send SX without any extra changes in that program.
> Thank you to everyone who contributed patch banks. I've tried 3 so far that sound great.
>

Re: VZ-10M correct Sysex settings

2014-01-15 by fzfan26116161

Ooops--that should read "The setting aren't really random . . . ."
Steve

--- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, "fzfan26116161" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Nice that you shared those steps. (I have the VZ-8m, so its similar.) The settings are really random, though if you haven't done it in a while, the cheat sheet helps. But if you loose the cheat sheet, knowing what the functions do will help you to reconstruct the proper setup.
> 
> Here's what the settings are on the VZ-8m:
> The EXCLUSIVE parameter lets you tell the VZ to ignore sysex commands (DIS) or to pay attention to them (ENA).
> The MEM PROTECT parameter lets you tell the VZ to reject (ON) or accept (OFF) changes to memory (stored patches, etc.)
> As for LOAD, you need to match the data type (VOICE, OPMEM, VC+OP, FULL) you are trying to load.
> And, as you discovered, the midi channel also has to match the file.
> 
> from http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/2085
> 
> Here are the error messages I have been getting when sending VZ sysex
> data to the VZ-8m. (See my previous message about channel and data
> type matching.)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Message: --TRANS ERROR--- | CHECK SYSTEM!
> Problem: Data channel <> VZ receive channel
> Solution: Change VZ channel to match sysex file data.
> 
> Message: --MIDI ERROR--- | RECEIVE ERROR
> Problem: Data type transmitted <> Data type expected
> Solution: Select proper data type when loading data type into VZ.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I remember when it was a mystery because I didn't understand what the parameters did. And of course, I keep going back to the cheat sheet myself when I have been away from using the VZ.
> 
> See also: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/2084
> 
> 02 MEM PROTECT - Switch INTERNAL to OFF
> 04 MIDI CHANNEL - Set midi channel to channel of data
> 05 MIDI DATA - Switch ECLUSIVE to ENA [enabled]
> 03 SAVE/LOAD - LOAD/SAVE > MIDI > [data type] > YES, YES
> 
> Note: It seems that data type must be matched. In order to
> sucessfully load data that was stored as Voice + Op-Mem data, I had
> to set up the VZ to accept that type of data.
> 
> Look similar?  
> 
> Anyhow--Welcome to the wonderful world of the VZ!! 
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, <mw9056@> wrote:
> >
> > After many frustrating attempts to send sysex patch banks to my VZ-10M, I found a combination that works! I wanted to share my findings with the community so others might avoid injuring themselves/gear/brain cells.
> > 
> > Set Exclusive=ENA under Menu 3-04
> > Set Internal=OFF under Menu 3-01
> > Set Save/Load=LOAD, Card/MIDI=MIDI, Data=VC+OP under Menu 3-02
> > Set the MIDI receive channel to 1 under Menu 3-03
> > 
> > For some reason, my VZ-10M would show an "Error check system" until I finally set the MIDI receive channel to 1. Don't know why this magically worked, but it did.
> > 
> > If using MIDI-OX, open the Sysex view and Configure buffers:
> > Low level input and output buffers both set to 128 bytes, 8 number.
> > Delay between buffers 100, delay after F7 checked and set to 60.
> > 
> > This also works in Bome's Send SX without any extra changes in that program.
> > Thank you to everyone who contributed patch banks. I've tried 3 so far that sound great.
> >
>

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