Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

I must say that I quite disagree with this whole
"sixteen years old = no good" concept.  A stunning
example (aside from the CZ1000 I use all the time) is
the Moog Prodigy sitting on the top of my keyboard
rack.  Built in 1979 (24 years ago) it hold sooo many
sound that I could not create with any of my new
synths.

yup.

jw

--- Alan Probandt <alan_probandt@...> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> *** Is it worth it to trade in a CZ-101 for a
> CZ1000?
> 
> >>>>>>>>> No
> 
> Why not?
> 
> 1) Any synthesizer that is sixteen years old is way
> behind the curve in terms of its ability to make
> cool
> and interesting sounds.  You're paying for the
> limited
> range of sounds that a 16 year old synth can give. 
> You current have every sound possiblity that the CZ
> family can give in the CZ101.
> 
> 2)  Any old piece of consumer electronics will lose
> 95% of its value after 16 years. It will fall to a
> certain price and not much lower.  A synth that cost
> $2500 in 1985 and one that cost $250 will both fall
> to
> the same price: $50.  The value of the electronics
> goes down, down, down but all of the other costs,
> such
> as shipping, transporting, repairing, ect. go up
> with
> time.
> 
> 3)   You mentioned that you would be using the
> CZ1000
> primarilly for its large keys.  Allow me to suggest,
> get an old, but very high quality MIDI keyboard
> controller for the same or slightly more cost than
> the
> CZ1000.  Get something with a professional keyboard
> feel (and MIDI velocity sensors on each key (which I
> strongly doubt that the CZ1000 has) ).  Research and
> ask around about which is the best keyboard
> controller
> on a synth made in the 1980-1990 period and you
> might
> find that they are selling for the same price (when
> you include the shipping and repair charges) as the
> CZ1000. 
> In other words, the value of a synthesizer is
> primarily the value of the electronics and then the
> value of the keyboard and case.  The
> price/performance
> ratio of the electronics goes up every year (the
> sounds keep getting better and cheaper every year as
> the electronics improve).
> 
>  For the price (selling the 101, buying and shipping
> the CZ1000), I suggest getting an old but excellent
> quality keyboard and one or two tone modules that
> are
> about five years old.  The more tone modules that
> you
> have (and the more varied they are in their sound
> generating techniques), then the more interesting
> that
> you sound in your performances and recordings.  The
> better quality keyboard controller that you have
> (remember velocity sensors on each key?), then the
> better that you play and sound.  
> 
>  Don't get tricked into thinking that mediocre
> mass-market consumer items like the Casio CZ family
> will become collector's items just because they're
> old.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> --- euporia420 <euporia420@...> wrote:
> > Hey guys, just joined the list a week or so ago,
> > when I picked up a
> > beautiful condition CZ-101.  I just saw an add for
> a
> > CZ1000, and was
> > wondering if the full sized keys justify me going
> > through the effort
> > of buying the 1000 and selling the 101 on eBay. 
> The
> > size of the 101
> > is pretty sweet, but those mini-keys are annoying
> as
> > hell, and I
> > couldn't imagine playing anything acurately during
> a
> > live performance.
> >  Maybe that will change with some practice?
> > 
> > Fulls size keys sound nice, but I'm wondering if I
> > should just keep
> > the 101 and get another keyboard controller in the
> > future.  I
> > currently use my K5000S as my main controller. 
> I'm
> > not sure the build
> > and key quality of the 1000 can really give me a
> > much better
> > controller than the 101, after all, it's a cheep
> old
> > synth.  I don't
> > think Juno's make the best controller
> either....lol.
> >  Should I keep my
> > 101, and get a nice newer contoller later; or go
> > ahead and replace my
> > 101 with a full sized 1000.
> > 
> > Any suggestions, thanks,
> > David Beckman
> > 
> > 
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