Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Hi...

At 12:31 12.06.01 -0400, you wrote:
>
>> >All that for a synth with weaker FM than the norm?
>> 
>> Less agressive don't necessarely means that they sound weaker...  just
>> different... as I mentioned before, it's (at least for my ears) probably
>> hard for a synth to sound as agressive/harsh as the old FM synths...
>
>Head out to Yamaha's manual library (use google, Yamaha registration
>required) and pull the manuals for the SY77, TG77 and SY99.  These

I'm already registered, downloaded lot's of manuals since then... 

>were "RCM" synths - 16 note poly 6-op FM (45 algorithms) AND 16 note
>poly AWM (including squares, saws, etc.).  Pitch, Filter and Amp
>envelope generators available on each of four such elements per voice.

I know this, since I a friend told me a lot of his TG77 and I checked the
Sounddiver modul to understand some of his descriptions... 

>And AWM waveforms were usable as both carriers and modulators of the
>FM signal chain.  

That friend (and other user in a discussion of the Keyboards forum) told me
that those are hardly usable in the FM context, it mostly ends up in
creating noise... also, if I'm not mistaken, there's only one PCM avaiable
per algorithm... so I guess for instance the FS1R FM - implementation with
the adjustable prefiltered waveforms, formant and bandwith parameters for
the operator waveforms probably makes more sense, since if it get to noisy
I'm able reduce the overtones a bit... I at least find it very usefull
there... but haven't had a chance to compare it with the TG77... the fine
thing with the TG/SY77/99 is (as far as I know about it) that you can create
your own algorithms and have feedback for every operator and the loopable
multistage envelopes and improved level scaling... 

>What it lacks in "FM aggressiveness" it more than
>makes up in depth.  

Can't tell, haven't had the chance to programm this synth... anyway, I don't
mean to say that it is a bad synth... as the VZ has it's own character and
can do sounds the TX81z can't the TG77 has certainly some great sounds to
offer... maybe it's my english why everyone wants to missunderstand me.... ;)

>Nothing done so far at Yamaha has quite gotten there.  These were scary
synths >in 1989 and they're still pretty scary today.

I don't know what you mean with scary... since I prefere complex synths they
don't sound that scary to me... :-) 

Summa

			     
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