Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Puh. I am too lazy right now, to check out those strange files. I
better do my own sounds ;)

As for swapping sounds, let me know when you have some for me! I am
ready with a bunch of Voices - mostly SFX styled stuff. I maybe could
upload them here in the files section too. But i like to know those
people i give sounds too ;) In the sense of a community, it would be
great to make a user soundbank.

cheers
phono


PS: now playing. spacemen3 

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:
> I took a quick look as I have a number of projects I am working on 
> just now. 
> 
> 681 is the size of the VZ single voice sysex dump.
> 55,958 is the size of of the 64 VZ Voices + 64 Op-Mems sysex dump.
> 
> The *.vz files (sizes 43,073 and 43,974) look like sysex data 
> without the sysex header and EOX bytes.  There is no value above 7F, 
> and it looks like nibblized data for numbers in a low range.
> 
> I may have more time to look at the files later.
> 
> As for using the VZ editor from posted earlier, I could not make it 
> work successfully on an XP with the VZ-8m.  I could transfer some 
> data, but the software then produced an error.  I am not sure if 
> that's because I used a VZ-8m or XP.  I may try it on a WIn98 system 
> one of these days.
> 
> Thanks for posting the files.
> 
> Hmmmmmm. Just looked at card1.b and card2.b.  On my copies the 1st 
> byte of each file has a CE instead of an F0.
> 
> I am not sure why.  Other than that they look like a 64 patch vc+op 
> sysex dump on channel 1. In debug you can change the byte and resave 
> the file as card1.syx.  I am not sure if you can do that with 
> MidiOx. (Don't change data bytes this way because it will proably 
> throw the checksum off.  If you really wanted to, you could change 
> things around in a zero sum manner--if you change one number by 
> adding 3, make sure you subtract 3 somewhere else in the data.)
> 
> For example:
> 
> . . . 05 00 02 00 02 00 00 00 03 00 . . .
> 
> . . . 08 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 . . .
> 
> Or, if you add 1 some place, you could reduce the check sum by 1.  
> The checksum is the number in the data portion of the sysex command 
> before the F7. (See previous post showing open, data, close format.)
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> wrote:
> > Ok. I put it in the temp folder. I had a look in a another archiv i
> > downloaded. i guess those patches were something of a comercial
> > promotion thing. read the txt in those archiv....
> > 
> > phono
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> mail@p...>
> > wrote:
> > > This is the perfect opportunity to look at the file using either 
> > > debug or MidiOx. Look to see if the files are (1) sysex files 
> > > [F0 . . . F7], (2) files with the sysex wrapper removed, or (3) 
> data 
> > > in a customized format. (Decades ago, I was working on a CZ 
> Patch 
> > > Banker for the C-64 and used a custom file format that had 256 
> > > patches per file.)
> > > 
> > > MidiOx can show you the data with F0 and F7 colorized.  Debug 
> will 
> > > let you search for patterns (such as F0 44).
> > > 
> > > What are the sizes of the files?  That can tell you a lot.
> > > 
> > > I will create a folder called VZ-Temp.  Feel free to upload the 
> files 
> > > in question.  I'd be interested in taking a peek at them. (I 
> love a 
> > > mystery!)
> > > 
> > > --Steve
> > > 
> > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > > Hi! I just had a look at the VZsounds i downloaded. I found 
> some
> > > > Patches that have strange file xtensions: 
> > > > *.P for a tone (single voice)
> > > > *.B for a Bank
> > > > *.M for a Multi
> > > > 
> > > > also i found some with: *.VZ
> > > > 
> > > > i wonder where these extensions come from, and how i can use 
> it.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ******************************************
> > > > Just to summarize the extensions i know ...
> > > > 
> > > > VZeditor on Atari uses:
> > > > *.VZT for a tone
> > > > *.VZB for a Bank
> > > > *.VZ8 for a Block (8 voices)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > VZeditor on PC uses:
> > > > *.VZV for a tone
> > > > *.VZ1 for a Bank
> > > > 
> > > > ******************************************
> > > > 
> > > > phono