Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Hi! I just had a look at the VZsounds i downloaded. I found some
Patches that have strange file xtensions: 
*.P for a tone (single voice)
*.B for a Bank
*.M for a Multi

also i found some with: *.VZ

i wonder where these extensions come from, and how i can use it.


******************************************
Just to summarize the extensions i know ...

VZeditor on Atari uses:
*.VZT for a tone
*.VZB for a Bank
*.VZ8 for a Block (8 voices)


VZeditor on PC uses:
*.VZV for a tone
*.VZ1 for a Bank

******************************************

phono

This is the perfect opportunity to look at the file using either 
debug or MidiOx. Look to see if the files are (1) sysex files 
[F0 . . . F7], (2) files with the sysex wrapper removed, or (3) data 
in a customized format. (Decades ago, I was working on a CZ Patch 
Banker for the C-64 and used a custom file format that had 256 
patches per file.)

MidiOx can show you the data with F0 and F7 colorized.  Debug will 
let you search for patterns (such as F0 44).

What are the sizes of the files?  That can tell you a lot.

I will create a folder called VZ-Temp.  Feel free to upload the files 
in question.  I'd be interested in taking a peek at them. (I love a 
mystery!)

--Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> wrote:

> Hi! I just had a look at the VZsounds i downloaded. I found some
> Patches that have strange file xtensions: 
> *.P for a tone (single voice)
> *.B for a Bank
> *.M for a Multi
> 
> also i found some with: *.VZ
> 
> i wonder where these extensions come from, and how i can use it.
> 
> 
> ******************************************
> Just to summarize the extensions i know ...
> 
> VZeditor on Atari uses:
> *.VZT for a tone
> *.VZB for a Bank
> *.VZ8 for a Block (8 voices)
> 
> 
> VZeditor on PC uses:
> *.VZV for a tone
> *.VZ1 for a Bank
> 
> ******************************************
> 
> phono

Ok. I put it in the temp folder. I had a look in a another archiv i
downloaded. i guess those patches were something of a comercial
promotion thing. read the txt in those archiv....

phono

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

> This is the perfect opportunity to look at the file using either 
> debug or MidiOx. Look to see if the files are (1) sysex files 
> [F0 . . . F7], (2) files with the sysex wrapper removed, or (3) data 
> in a customized format. (Decades ago, I was working on a CZ Patch 
> Banker for the C-64 and used a custom file format that had 256 
> patches per file.)
> 
> MidiOx can show you the data with F0 and F7 colorized.  Debug will 
> let you search for patterns (such as F0 44).
> 
> What are the sizes of the files?  That can tell you a lot.
> 
> I will create a folder called VZ-Temp.  Feel free to upload the files 
> in question.  I'd be interested in taking a peek at them. (I love a 
> mystery!)
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> wrote:
> > Hi! I just had a look at the VZsounds i downloaded. I found some
> > Patches that have strange file xtensions: 
> > *.P for a tone (single voice)
> > *.B for a Bank
> > *.M for a Multi
> > 
> > also i found some with: *.VZ
> > 
> > i wonder where these extensions come from, and how i can use it.
> > 
> > 
> > ******************************************
> > Just to summarize the extensions i know ...
> > 
> > VZeditor on Atari uses:
> > *.VZT for a tone
> > *.VZB for a Bank
> > *.VZ8 for a Block (8 voices)
> > 
> > 
> > VZeditor on PC uses:
> > *.VZV for a tone
> > *.VZ1 for a Bank
> > 
> > ******************************************
> > 
> > phono

I took a quick look as I have a number of projects I am working on 
just now. 

681 is the size of the VZ single voice sysex dump.
55,958 is the size of of the 64 VZ Voices + 64 Op-Mems sysex dump.

The *.vz files (sizes 43,073 and 43,974) look like sysex data 
without the sysex header and EOX bytes.  There is no value above 7F, 
and it looks like nibblized data for numbers in a low range.

I may have more time to look at the files later.

As for using the VZ editor from posted earlier, I could not make it 
work successfully on an XP with the VZ-8m.  I could transfer some 
data, but the software then produced an error.  I am not sure if 
that's because I used a VZ-8m or XP.  I may try it on a WIn98 system 
one of these days.

Thanks for posting the files.

Hmmmmmm. Just looked at card1.b and card2.b.  On my copies the 1st 
byte of each file has a CE instead of an F0.

I am not sure why.  Other than that they look like a 64 patch vc+op 
sysex dump on channel 1. In debug you can change the byte and resave 
the file as card1.syx.  I am not sure if you can do that with 
MidiOx. (Don't change data bytes this way because it will proably 
throw the checksum off.  If you really wanted to, you could change 
things around in a zero sum manner--if you change one number by 
adding 3, make sure you subtract 3 somewhere else in the data.)

For example:

. . . 05 00 02 00 02 00 00 00 03 00 . . .

. . . 08 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 . . .

Or, if you add 1 some place, you could reduce the check sum by 1.  
The checksum is the number in the data portion of the sysex command 
before the F7. (See previous post showing open, data, close format.)

--Steve




--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
wrote:
> Ok. I put it in the temp folder. I had a look in a another archiv i
> downloaded. i guess those patches were something of a comercial
> promotion thing. read the txt in those archiv....
> 
> phono
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
mail@p...>
> wrote:
> > This is the perfect opportunity to look at the file using either 
> > debug or MidiOx. Look to see if the files are (1) sysex files 
> > [F0 . . . F7], (2) files with the sysex wrapper removed, or (3) 
data 
> > in a customized format. (Decades ago, I was working on a CZ 
Patch 
> > Banker for the C-64 and used a custom file format that had 256 
> > patches per file.)
> > 
> > MidiOx can show you the data with F0 and F7 colorized.  Debug 
will 
> > let you search for patterns (such as F0 44).
> > 
> > What are the sizes of the files?  That can tell you a lot.
> > 
> > I will create a folder called VZ-Temp.  Feel free to upload the 
files 
> > in question.  I'd be interested in taking a peek at them. (I 
love a 
> > mystery!)
> > 
> > --Steve
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
wrote:
> > > Hi! I just had a look at the VZsounds i downloaded. I found 
some
> > > Patches that have strange file xtensions: 
> > > *.P for a tone (single voice)
> > > *.B for a Bank
> > > *.M for a Multi
> > > 
> > > also i found some with: *.VZ
> > > 
> > > i wonder where these extensions come from, and how i can use 
it.

> > > 
> > > 
> > > ******************************************
> > > Just to summarize the extensions i know ...
> > > 
> > > VZeditor on Atari uses:
> > > *.VZT for a tone
> > > *.VZB for a Bank
> > > *.VZ8 for a Block (8 voices)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > VZeditor on PC uses:
> > > *.VZV for a tone
> > > *.VZ1 for a Bank
> > > 
> > > ******************************************
> > > 
> > > phono

Puh. I am too lazy right now, to check out those strange files. I
better do my own sounds ;)

As for swapping sounds, let me know when you have some for me! I am
ready with a bunch of Voices - mostly SFX styled stuff. I maybe could
upload them here in the files section too. But i like to know those
people i give sounds too ;) In the sense of a community, it would be
great to make a user soundbank.

cheers
phono


PS: now playing. spacemen3 

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

> I took a quick look as I have a number of projects I am working on 
> just now. 
> 
> 681 is the size of the VZ single voice sysex dump.
> 55,958 is the size of of the 64 VZ Voices + 64 Op-Mems sysex dump.
> 
> The *.vz files (sizes 43,073 and 43,974) look like sysex data 
> without the sysex header and EOX bytes.  There is no value above 7F, 
> and it looks like nibblized data for numbers in a low range.
> 
> I may have more time to look at the files later.
> 
> As for using the VZ editor from posted earlier, I could not make it 
> work successfully on an XP with the VZ-8m.  I could transfer some 
> data, but the software then produced an error.  I am not sure if 
> that's because I used a VZ-8m or XP.  I may try it on a WIn98 system 
> one of these days.
> 
> Thanks for posting the files.
> 
> Hmmmmmm. Just looked at card1.b and card2.b.  On my copies the 1st 
> byte of each file has a CE instead of an F0.
> 
> I am not sure why.  Other than that they look like a 64 patch vc+op 
> sysex dump on channel 1. In debug you can change the byte and resave 
> the file as card1.syx.  I am not sure if you can do that with 
> MidiOx. (Don't change data bytes this way because it will proably 
> throw the checksum off.  If you really wanted to, you could change 
> things around in a zero sum manner--if you change one number by 
> adding 3, make sure you subtract 3 somewhere else in the data.)
> 
> For example:
> 
> . . . 05 00 02 00 02 00 00 00 03 00 . . .
> 
> . . . 08 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 . . .
> 
> Or, if you add 1 some place, you could reduce the check sum by 1.  
> The checksum is the number in the data portion of the sysex command 
> before the F7. (See previous post showing open, data, close format.)
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> wrote:
> > Ok. I put it in the temp folder. I had a look in a another archiv i
> > downloaded. i guess those patches were something of a comercial
> > promotion thing. read the txt in those archiv....
> > 
> > phono
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> mail@p...>
> > wrote:
> > > This is the perfect opportunity to look at the file using either 
> > > debug or MidiOx. Look to see if the files are (1) sysex files 
> > > [F0 . . . F7], (2) files with the sysex wrapper removed, or (3) 
> data 
> > > in a customized format. (Decades ago, I was working on a CZ 
> Patch 
> > > Banker for the C-64 and used a custom file format that had 256 
> > > patches per file.)
> > > 
> > > MidiOx can show you the data with F0 and F7 colorized.  Debug 
> will 
> > > let you search for patterns (such as F0 44).
> > > 
> > > What are the sizes of the files?  That can tell you a lot.
> > > 
> > > I will create a folder called VZ-Temp.  Feel free to upload the 
> files 
> > > in question.  I'd be interested in taking a peek at them. (I 
> love a 
> > > mystery!)
> > > 
> > > --Steve
> > > 
> > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > > Hi! I just had a look at the VZsounds i downloaded. I found 
> some
> > > > Patches that have strange file xtensions: 
> > > > *.P for a tone (single voice)
> > > > *.B for a Bank
> > > > *.M for a Multi
> > > > 
> > > > also i found some with: *.VZ
> > > > 
> > > > i wonder where these extensions come from, and how i can use 
> it.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ******************************************
> > > > Just to summarize the extensions i know ...
> > > > 
> > > > VZeditor on Atari uses:
> > > > *.VZT for a tone
> > > > *.VZB for a Bank
> > > > *.VZ8 for a Block (8 voices)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > VZeditor on PC uses:
> > > > *.VZV for a tone
> > > > *.VZ1 for a Bank
> > > > 
> > > > ******************************************
> > > > 
> > > > phono

Yesterday I began organizing my VZ sounds after not having worked on 
them for about 5 ot more years.  My plan is to clear out the factory 
presets from the banks that have my originals in order to see where 
I have room to store more.

Perhaps we can create a VZ community bank of 64 voices and less than 
64 Op-Mems so that users can create their own Op-Mems. 

Many of mine have specific playing techniques, so if we want to work 
on a collection to post, we should have a text file that includes 
the sound designer's name and any performance instructions (or 
special features).

I suggest we use the temporary folder to upload a few individual 
patches so we can see what kind of variety we have.

Once we get a bank completed, we could zip the file with the et of 
credits and instruction.  I suggest we have contact info in case 
users want more of a certain sound designer's patches.  I guess in a 
sense, it could be a CZ-VZ Forum Sampler.

Anyhow, these are just a few ideas as part of my contribution to the 
collective process.

--Steve

> As for swapping sounds, let me know when you have some for me! I am
> ready with a bunch of Voices - mostly SFX styled stuff. I maybe
> could upload them here in the files section too. But i like to
> know those people i give sounds too ;) In the sense of a
> community, it would be great to make a user soundbank.
> 
> cheers
> phono

>Perhaps we can create a VZ community bank of 64 voices and less than
>64 Op-Mems so that users can create their own Op-Mems.

I'd love to participate in this but at the moment I've got no way to get the 
patches into my computer.

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do you have problems with sysex dumps on vz? ask - we could maybe help
you.

phono


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...> wrote:
> >Perhaps we can create a VZ community bank of 64 voices and less than
> >64 Op-Mems so that users can create their own Op-Mems.
> 
> I'd love to participate in this but at the moment I've got no way to
get the 
> patches into my computer.
> 
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Well, i like your ideas. But this will only work if we become more
than just 2 persons who will do this. 

So, any other people here interested in this little
"group-compilation" ?????????!!!!!!!!

I remember we did this in the DSI evolver group, too! And it become
the best Soundbank around. It´s a little work for everyone but there
should be no hurry. We have 64 storageplaces to fill. Thats not too
much, i think. 

btw.: i just created some very unusual sounds this evening. There is
one patch that sounds somehow like those feedback drones i get with my
evolver.

phono


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

> Yesterday I began organizing my VZ sounds after not having worked on 
> them for about 5 ot more years.  My plan is to clear out the factory 
> presets from the banks that have my originals in order to see where 
> I have room to store more.
> 
> Perhaps we can create a VZ community bank of 64 voices and less than 
> 64 Op-Mems so that users can create their own Op-Mems. 
> 
> Many of mine have specific playing techniques, so if we want to work 
> on a collection to post, we should have a text file that includes 
> the sound designer's name and any performance instructions (or 
> special features).
> 
> I suggest we use the temporary folder to upload a few individual 
> patches so we can see what kind of variety we have.
> 
> Once we get a bank completed, we could zip the file with the et of 
> credits and instruction.  I suggest we have contact info in case 
> users want more of a certain sound designer's patches.  I guess in a 
> sense, it could be a CZ-VZ Forum Sampler.
> 
> Anyhow, these are just a few ideas as part of my contribution to the 
> collective process.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > As for swapping sounds, let me know when you have some for me! I am
> > ready with a bunch of Voices - mostly SFX styled stuff. I maybe
> > could upload them here in the files section too. But i like to
> > know those people i give sounds too ;) In the sense of a
> > community, it would be great to make a user soundbank.
> > 
> > cheers
> > phono

>do you have problems with sysex dumps on vz? ask - we could maybe help
>you.

The one time I tried to dump the VZ sounds it didn't work but I didn't try 
for very long

the main stumbling block now is that my VZ and my computer are in two 
different cities.

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--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...> wrote:
> I'd love to participate in this but at the moment I've got no way
> to get the patches into my computer.

It would be great to have you (and others) participate.  Is there 
something we can do to help?

--Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...> wrote:
> the main stumbling block now is that my VZ and my computer are in
> two different cities.

I don't think wireless midi is that advanced yet.  :-)

In CZ-VZ files I have posted 16 original VZ voice patches. They are 
from around 1990-91.  They should load as channel 1 data. The file -
VZ-Steve.txt has info about the files.

My VZ is away now, so I am not able to test load the files.

--Steve

i can not upload your files intoo my vz. i don´t know why that is the
case, but i had no success with my own single voices too. Voice and
VC+OP banks worked fine for me so far. it would be great if you (or
someone else maybe) could upload a bank with these files anytime
later. for single voices the atari editor works great for me. however
thanks for posting your files!!!

phono

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

> In CZ-VZ files I have posted 16 original VZ voice patches. They are 
> from around 1990-91.  They should load as channel 1 data. The file -
> VZ-Steve.txt has info about the files.
> 
> My VZ is away now, so I am not able to test load the files.
> 
> --Steve

(1) On the LOAD DATA = submenu, did you have DATA=Voice?
(2) Were you in Normal mode?
(3) Does your VZ have a compare/recall button?  If so, does that 
make a difference?

I will try to upload a whole bank.  Let me know what happens. Once 
you get it, let me know and I will remove it.  Please do not share 
it.  Thanks.

--Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
wrote:
> i can not upload your files intoo my vz. i don´t know why that is 
the
> case, but i had no success with my own single voices too. Voice and
> VC+OP banks worked fine for me so far. it would be great if you (or
> someone else maybe) could upload a bank with these files anytime
> later. for single voices the atari editor works great for me. 
however
> thanks for posting your files!!!
> 
> phono
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
mail@p...>
> wrote:
> > In CZ-VZ files I have posted 16 original VZ voice patches. They 
are 
> > from around 1990-91.  They should load as channel 1 data. The 
file -

> > VZ-Steve.txt has info about the files.
> > 
> > My VZ is away now, so I am not able to test load the files.
> > 
> > --Steve

I think I tried Steves bank with Sounddiver some time ago and it worked fine. 
I'll see to order the patches when we have enough entries for the bank with 
sounddiver, after that I let the editor create a midi file or try to generate a 
sysex dump by hand...
We should try to make the bank avaiable in different formats afterwards. Phono, 
I'll see to get your help with the ATARI formats then...

...Summa


On 7 Sep 2004 at 13:30, phonophobie wrote:

> i can not upload your files intoo my vz. i don´t know why that is the
> case, but i had no success with my own single voices too. Voice and
> VC+OP banks worked fine for me so far. it would be great if you (or
> someone else maybe) could upload a bank with these files anytime
> later. for single voices the atari editor works great for me. however
> thanks for posting your files!!!
> 
> phono
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
> wrote:
> > In CZ-VZ files I have posted 16 original VZ voice patches. They are 
> > from around 1990-91.  They should load as channel 1 data. The file -
> > VZ-Steve.txt has info about the files.
> > 
> > My VZ is away now, so I am not able to test load the files.
> > 
> > --Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 


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@ steve, those banks works for me. Thank you for uploading. I do sysex
sends with soundquest/MidiX now. Thats maybe the reason why i can´t
receive single voices? MidiOx still doesn´t work for me at all. I
think sending complete banks instead of single voices is also easier
for creating a whole user bank. I can do that in soundquest to. If you
like i can create a voice-only bank from your bank, where all your
patches are in following places ( a1 - .. ) btw: i like those sweep
patches at H a lot!

@ summa: last night i spend some hours with that vzeditor. it is
really nice and open up the vz in many places. but thats just my
opinion - you maybe like soundiver more ;) I am still searching for
another editor by drT, i have heard of - but it seams not to excist.
Anyway i have some problems with file transfer there too. It´s not
possible to receive VZ internal data without any bugs and crashes. So
all i can do is loading atari formated patches (*.vtb etc..) and send
them to vz. There is maybe a solution for this, but i didn´t found one
so far....

oh, and i guess i will upload some of my patches later this evening.
summa, it would be nice to hear some of yours too :)

phono


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

> (1) On the LOAD DATA = submenu, did you have DATA=Voice?
> (2) Were you in Normal mode?
> (3) Does your VZ have a compare/recall button?  If so, does that 
> make a difference?
> 
> I will try to upload a whole bank.  Let me know what happens. Once 
> you get it, let me know and I will remove it.  Please do not share 
> it.  Thanks.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> wrote:
> > i can not upload your files intoo my vz. i don´t know why that is 
> the
> > case, but i had no success with my own single voices too. Voice and
> > VC+OP banks worked fine for me so far. it would be great if you (or
> > someone else maybe) could upload a bank with these files anytime
> > later. for single voices the atari editor works great for me. 
> however
> > thanks for posting your files!!!
> > 
> > phono
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> mail@p...>
> > wrote:
> > > In CZ-VZ files I have posted 16 original VZ voice patches. They 
> are 
> > > from around 1990-91.  They should load as channel 1 data. The 
> file -
> > > VZ-Steve.txt has info about the files.
> > > 
> > > My VZ is away now, so I am not able to test load the files.
> > > 
> > > --Steve

Phono: You already heard one of my VZ choir sounds in the Moogulator forum. I 
might add some of my patches to the presets... ;) 
No problems working with sounddiver over here...
Well, I'll see to update my Steem version and try the editor, I guess I'll 
somehow find my ways to get the bank together into one piece...  ;)
I'd suggest everyone who takes part is chosing a two or three letters signature 
(like SUM for Summa) as part of the sounds name...

...Summa


On 7 Sep 2004 at 17:44, phonophobie wrote:

 
> @ summa: last night i spend some hours with that vzeditor. it is
> really nice and open up the vz in many places. but thats just my
> opinion - you maybe like soundiver more ;) I am still searching for
> another editor by drT, i have heard of - but it seams not to excist.
> Anyway i have some problems with file transfer there too. It´s not
> possible to receive VZ internal data without any bugs and crashes. So
> all i can do is loading atari formated patches (*.vtb etc..) and send
> them to vz. There is maybe a solution for this, but i didn´t found one
> so far....
> 
> oh, and i guess i will upload some of my patches later this evening.
> summa, it would be nice to hear some of yours too :)
> 
> phono
> 
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
> wrote:
> > (1) On the LOAD DATA = submenu, did you have DATA=Voice?
> > (2) Were you in Normal mode?
> > (3) Does your VZ have a compare/recall button?  If so, does that 
> > make a difference?
> > 
> > I will try to upload a whole bank.  Let me know what happens. Once 
> > you get it, let me know and I will remove it.  Please do not share 
> > it.  Thanks.
> > 
> > --Steve
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> > wrote:
> > > i can not upload your files intoo my vz. i don´t know why that is 
> > the
> > > case, but i had no success with my own single voices too. Voice and
> > > VC+OP banks worked fine for me so far. it would be great if you (or
> > > someone else maybe) could upload a bank with these files anytime
> > > later. for single voices the atari editor works great for me. 
> > however
> > > thanks for posting your files!!!
> > > 
> > > phono
> > > 
> > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> > mail@p...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > In CZ-VZ files I have posted 16 original VZ voice patches. They 
> > are 
> > > > from around 1990-91.  They should load as channel 1 data. The 
> > file -
> > > > VZ-Steve.txt has info about the files.
> > > > 
> > > > My VZ is away now, so I am not able to test load the files.
> > > > 
> > > > --Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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hmm ... did I? i have to check it out again. Yes! Pleeeease add
something to our project :)

My first bank is ready for your VZ !!! I hope you can transfer this
bank without problems. Have fun! 

Good idea with that 3 letters, i will maybe choose only one (P)
because my voicenames are too long. I also suggest that everyone is
storing his voicebank in Data=Voice mode. And be sure to adjust Midi
receive/send channel to "01".

[phono]






--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@f...> wrote:
> Phono: You already heard one of my VZ choir sounds in the Moogulator
forum. I 
> might add some of my patches to the presets... ;) 
> No problems working with sounddiver over here...
> Well, I'll see to update my Steem version and try the editor, I
guess I'll 
> somehow find my ways to get the bank together into one piece...  ;)
> I'd suggest everyone who takes part is chosing a two or three
letters signature 
> (like SUM for Summa) as part of the sounds name...
> 
> ...Summa
> 
> 
> On 7 Sep 2004 at 17:44, phonophobie wrote:
> 
>  
> > @ summa: last night i spend some hours with that vzeditor. it is
> > really nice and open up the vz in many places. but thats just my
> > opinion - you maybe like soundiver more ;) I am still searching for
> > another editor by drT, i have heard of - but it seams not to excist.
> > Anyway i have some problems with file transfer there too. It´s not
> > possible to receive VZ internal data without any bugs and crashes. So
> > all i can do is loading atari formated patches (*.vtb etc..) and send
> > them to vz. There is maybe a solution for this, but i didn´t found one
> > so far....
> > 
> > oh, and i guess i will upload some of my patches later this evening.
> > summa, it would be nice to hear some of yours too :)
> > 
> > phono
> > 
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
> > wrote:
> > > (1) On the LOAD DATA = submenu, did you have DATA=Voice?
> > > (2) Were you in Normal mode?
> > > (3) Does your VZ have a compare/recall button?  If so, does that 
> > > make a difference?
> > > 
> > > I will try to upload a whole bank.  Let me know what happens. Once 
> > > you get it, let me know and I will remove it.  Please do not share 
> > > it.  Thanks.
> > > 
> > > --Steve
> > > 
> > > --- In CZsynth@...m, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > i can not upload your files intoo my vz. i don´t know why that is 
> > > the
> > > > case, but i had no success with my own single voices too.
Voice and
> > > > VC+OP banks worked fine for me so far. it would be great if
you (or

> > > > someone else maybe) could upload a bank with these files anytime
> > > > later. for single voices the atari editor works great for me. 
> > > however
> > > > thanks for posting your files!!!
> > > > 
> > > > phono
> > > > 
> > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> > > mail@p...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > In CZ-VZ files I have posted 16 original VZ voice patches. They 
> > > are 
> > > > > from around 1990-91.  They should load as channel 1 data. The 
> > > file -
> > > > > VZ-Steve.txt has info about the files.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My VZ is away now, so I am not able to test load the files.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --Steve
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
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Just in case you added the bank as attachment, they're not allowed on this list 
to prevent virus threats...

On 7 Sep 2004 at 21:53, phonophobie wrote:

> hmm ... did I? i have to check it out again. Yes! Pleeeease add
> something to our project :)
> 
> My first bank is ready for your VZ !!! I hope you can transfer this
> bank without problems. Have fun! 
> 
> Good idea with that 3 letters, i will maybe choose only one (P)
> because my voicenames are too long. I also suggest that everyone is
> storing his voicebank in Data=Voice mode. And be sure to adjust Midi
> receive/send channel to "01".
> 
> [phono]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@f...> wrote:
> > Phono: You already heard one of my VZ choir sounds in the Moogulator
> forum. I 
> > might add some of my patches to the presets... ;) 
> > No problems working with sounddiver over here...
> > Well, I'll see to update my Steem version and try the editor, I
> guess I'll 
> > somehow find my ways to get the bank together into one piece...  ;)
> > I'd suggest everyone who takes part is chosing a two or three
> letters signature 
> > (like SUM for Summa) as part of the sounds name...
> > 
> > ...Summa
> > 
> > 
> > On 7 Sep 2004 at 17:44, phonophobie wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > > @ summa: last night i spend some hours with that vzeditor. it is
> > > really nice and open up the vz in many places. but thats just my
> > > opinion - you maybe like soundiver more ;) I am still searching for
> > > another editor by drT, i have heard of - but it seams not to excist.
> > > Anyway i have some problems with file transfer there too. It´s not
> > > possible to receive VZ internal data without any bugs and crashes. So
> > > all i can do is loading atari formated patches (*.vtb etc..) and send
> > > them to vz. There is maybe a solution for this, but i didn´t found one
> > > so far....
> > > 
> > > oh, and i guess i will upload some of my patches later this evening.
> > > summa, it would be nice to hear some of yours too :)
> > > 
> > > phono
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > (1) On the LOAD DATA = submenu, did you have DATA=Voice?
> > > > (2) Were you in Normal mode?
> > > > (3) Does your VZ have a compare/recall button?  If so, does that 
> > > > make a difference?
> > > > 
> > > > I will try to upload a whole bank.  Let me know what happens. Once 
> > > > you get it, let me know and I will remove it.  Please do not share 
> > > > it.  Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > --Steve
> > > > 
> > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > i can not upload your files intoo my vz. i don´t know why that is 
> > > > the
> > > > > case, but i had no success with my own single voices too.
> Voice and
> > > > > VC+OP banks worked fine for me so far. it would be great if
> you (or
> > > > > someone else maybe) could upload a bank with these files anytime
> > > > > later. for single voices the atari editor works great for me. 
> > > > however
> > > > > thanks for posting your files!!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > phono
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> > > > mail@p...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > In CZ-VZ files I have posted 16 original VZ voice patches. They 
> > > > are 
> > > > > > from around 1990-91.  They should load as channel 1 data. The 
> > > > file -
> > > > > > VZ-Steve.txt has info about the files.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My VZ is away now, so I am not able to test load the files.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --Steve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>  
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Glad to hear.  I will delete the files for now since I did not have 
a chance to clear out my non-original patches.  I would be very 
interested to know which files worked--esp. what if the FULL set 
worked as I expected.  (You have a VZ-10m, right? I want to confirm 
that the VZ-8m specific data did not interfere with the transfer.

Not sure why MidiOx didn't work for you.  It looks like a neat 
untility.  I might use it, but Cakewalk and debug work for me.

--Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie"  wrote:
steve, those banks work for me. Thank you for uploading.
[snip]

I easyly can delete your non-orginal patches at that soundbank with
soundquest. But you might do it yourself and rework those bank for the
final patchbank..? enter your name in patches maybe?

I think banks in DATA format: VC+OP and Voice worked for me. On VZ10m
there is no FULL support i think. I suggest to upload only banks in
DATA format VOICE on channel "01". If you can´t delete sounds made by
other persons, i can do that for you.

steve: have a look in the temp folder. i uploaded my bank there..

[phono]


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

> Glad to hear.  I will delete the files for now since I did not have 
> a chance to clear out my non-original patches.  I would be very 
> interested to know which files worked--esp. what if the FULL set 
> worked as I expected.  (You have a VZ-10m, right? I want to confirm 
> that the VZ-8m specific data did not interfere with the transfer.
> 
> Not sure why MidiOx didn't work for you.  It looks like a neat 
> untility.  I might use it, but Cakewalk and debug work for me.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie"  wrote:
> steve, those banks work for me. Thank you for uploading.
> [snip]

Thanks.  I downloaded your file, phono. Is there anything in banks B-
->H?  Alle I get is a series of reverse 1s in the name filed for the 
patches in those banks.

Yes, I will rework mine voices and op-mems.  Not sure what prefix I 
will use for mine. If the voices in your banks B-->H are null 
patches, I can use that to replace the non-original paches in my 
file.

Unless there are reasons for only having voices in the project, I 
would like to include some of my op-mems--specifically those that 
demonstrate special sound design/performance techniques.

--Steve

nope. blocks from B to H has to be filled by others ;)
i´d suggest if you like to do op-mems to make a seperate bank first.
there is no reason for only having voices in the project, but i am not
shure how to organize everything. Maybe everybody should make 8
"Voices" and 8 "Operation-Memory" ?? For creating a final userbank it
seams to be easier to have all userbanks seperated. So me or Summa
could just drag and drop the files intoo a final bank.

phono



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

> Thanks.  I downloaded your file, phono. Is there anything in banks B-
> ->H?  Alle I get is a series of reverse 1s in the name filed for the 
> patches in those banks.
> 
> Yes, I will rework mine voices and op-mems.  Not sure what prefix I 
> will use for mine. If the voices in your banks B-->H are null 
> patches, I can use that to replace the non-original paches in my 
> file.
> 
> Unless there are reasons for only having voices in the project, I 
> would like to include some of my op-mems--specifically those that 
> demonstrate special sound design/performance techniques.
> 
> --Steve

I guess it will be a bit hard to fiddle the OPMEMs together again after 
collecting and sorting the voices into one bank... 
But you could recreate your OPMEMs afterwards...

...Summa


On 8 Sep 2004 at 13:08, steve_the_composer wrote:

> Thanks.  I downloaded your file, phono. Is there anything in banks B-
> ->H?  Alle I get is a series of reverse 1s in the name filed for the 
> patches in those banks.
> 
> Yes, I will rework mine voices and op-mems.  Not sure what prefix I 
> will use for mine. If the voices in your banks B-->H are null 
> patches, I can use that to replace the non-original paches in my 
> file.
> 
> Unless there are reasons for only having voices in the project, I 
> would like to include some of my op-mems--specifically those that 
> demonstrate special sound design/performance techniques.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 


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--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@f...> wrote:
> I guess it will be a bit hard to fiddle the OPMEMs together again
> after collecting and sorting the voices into one bank... 
> But you could recreate your OPMEMs afterwards...
> 
> ...Summa

I will give this more thought after the voice bank is more well 
defined.  Most of my combos which demo special design/performance 
techniques are in locations G and H and use either voices from G and 
H.  Some use ROM voices in the VZ-8m.  Do the VZ-1 and VZ-10m have 
built-in ROMs?  (The VZ-8m has two banks of 64 voices and 64 op-
mems.)

--Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" wrote:
> nope. blocks from B to H has to be filled by others ;)
> i´d suggest if you like to do op-mems to make a seperate bank
> first. there is no reason for only having voices in the project,
> but i am not shure how to organize everything. Maybe everybody
> should make 8 "Voices" and 8 "Operation-Memory" ?? For creating a
> final userbank it seams to be easier to have all userbanks
> seperated. So me or Summa could just drag and drop the files into
> a final bank.
> 
> phono

Sounds good.  I can choose 8 to 16 of mine to demo variety, rename 
them, and then put them in banks G and H of the file where you have 
the A bank.  You and summa can choose 8 which ones you think best 
fit the collection and drop and drag them for the final sound set.

--Steve

Ok 16 vices would be cool. But i think it´s better if you upload in a
seperate bank ( not in mine ). That way it`s better to organize imho.
In soundquest (or Sounddiver) you can have 2 windows of soundbanks
open at the same time. I can drag and drop then voices (and op-mem)
right into a new bank - the final userbank..... 

btw: we need some more people for this bank ;)
phono 


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" wrote:
> > nope. blocks from B to H has to be filled by others ;)
> > i´d suggest if you like to do op-mems to make a seperate bank
> > first. there is no reason for only having voices in the project,
> > but i am not shure how to organize everything. Maybe everybody
> > should make 8 "Voices" and 8 "Operation-Memory" ?? For creating a
> > final userbank it seams to be easier to have all userbanks
> > seperated. So me or Summa could just drag and drop the files into
> > a final bank.
> > 
> > phono
> 
> Sounds good.  I can choose 8 to 16 of mine to demo variety, rename 
> them, and then put them in banks G and H of the file where you have 
> the A bank.  You and summa can choose 8 which ones you think best 
> fit the collection and drop and drag them for the final sound set.
> 
> --Steve

Well, give things time... you'll at least get 8 Sounds from me... we should run 
that project until we filled a bank...

Any other volunteers? Just post time you need and amount of sounds you want to 
create/share...


...Summa



On 8 Sep 2004 at 15:28, phonophobie wrote:

> Ok 16 vices would be cool. But i think it´s better if you upload in a
> seperate bank ( not in mine ). That way it`s better to organize imho.
> In soundquest (or Sounddiver) you can have 2 windows of soundbanks
> open at the same time. I can drag and drop then voices (and op-mem)
> right into a new bank - the final userbank..... 
> 
> btw: we need some more people for this bank ;)
> phono 
> 
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
> wrote: > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" wrote: > >
> nope. blocks from B to H has to be filled by others ;) > > i´d suggest
> if you like to do op-mems to make a seperate bank > > first. there is
> no reason for only having voices in the project, > > but i am not
> shure how to organize everything. Maybe everybody > > should make 8
> "Voices" and 8 "Operation-Memory" ?? For creating a > > final userbank
> it seams to be easier to have all userbanks > > seperated. So me or
> Summa could just drag and drop the files into > > a final bank. > > >
> > phono > > Sounds good.  I can choose 8 to 16 of mine to demo
> variety, rename > them, and then put them in banks G and H of the file
> where you have > the A bank.  You and summa can choose 8 which ones
> you think best > fit the collection and drop and drag them for the
> final sound set. > > --Steve
> 
> 
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--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie"  wrote:
> Ok 16 vices would be cool. But i think it´s better if you upload
> in a seperate bank ( not in mine ).

No problem.

> btw: we need some more people for this bank ;)
> phono 

I agree.  If necessary, we can come out with a preliminary SoundSet 
with 8 per contributor to await others.  

Scott--when will you, your computer, and your VZ be in the same city?

Who else here designs their own VZ sounds?

Another option:  If someone designs unique/original CZ sounds, we 
might be able to simulate a VZ version.

I am working on naming my patches using the full set of characters 
available on the VZ-8m if the other VZs can handle them.

Are there any Japanese speaking/reading CZ-VZ-FZ Group members 
following this thread who can help me out naming patches in Japanese?

--steve_the_multiculturalist

>Scott--when will you, your computer, and your VZ be in the same city?

Well the problem is this:

I'm at college now, in a dorm, about a two hour drive from home.  computer 
is here, synths are there.

I'll definately be able to work it out over Christmas break, but doing it 
before then will either require taking my computer home, or dismantling a 
bunch of stuff to get the VZ in the same room as another computer and 
transferring it like that.  I'm not too thrilled about either of those 
options.

If only someone had thought of this a month ago...

Anyway I haven't done a lot of sysex transfers on my synths.  It would 
definately be a good idea (to back up patches and to share with others) but 
I don't like swapping midi cables around and frustrated when it doesn't work 
on the first try.  One day though....

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--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...> wrote:
> I'm at college now, in a dorm, about a two hour drive from home. 
> computer is here, synths are there.
> I'll definately be able to work it out over Christmas break . . . .

Persoanlly, I am in favor of a pre-final version release of the 
compilation with empty banks so we get the best patches from a number 
of VZ users.

> If only someone had thought of this a month ago...

I have been wanting to get back into using VZ sounds for a while, but 
only started to get into it seriously a week or so ago.  I also got 
out my Korg EX-800--very, very limited by the standards of a even 
decade ago, but it has an amazingly rich analog sound. 

> It would definately be a good idea (to back up patches and to share
> with others) but I don't like swapping midi cables around and
> get frustrated when it doesn't work on the first try.

If something works on the first try, I definitely consider it a 
blessing!!!!!  My rule of thumb is: If I expect something to take an 
hour, it will probably take 10-20 hours.  :-)

Best wishes for a productive semester/quarter.

No Problem at all. There really is no need for hurry. For now it would
be nice if 3 or 4 people would create a pre-version of the bank, or
just upload there banks. However there is no reason why there can´t be
a second bank ;)

... i`ll leave a notification at EzVz site, too...

cheers! 
santa klaus


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:

> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...> wrote:
> > I'm at college now, in a dorm, about a two hour drive from home. 
> > computer is here, synths are there.
> > I'll definately be able to work it out over Christmas break . . . .
> 
> Persoanlly, I am in favor of a pre-final version release of the 
> compilation with empty banks so we get the best patches from a number 
> of VZ users.
> 
> > If only someone had thought of this a month ago...
> 
> I have been wanting to get back into using VZ sounds for a while, but 
> only started to get into it seriously a week or so ago.  I also got 
> out my Korg EX-800--very, very limited by the standards of a even 
> decade ago, but it has an amazingly rich analog sound. 
> 
> > It would definately be a good idea (to back up patches and to share
> > with others) but I don't like swapping midi cables around and
> > get frustrated when it doesn't work on the first try.
> 
> If something works on the first try, I definitely consider it a 
> blessing!!!!!  My rule of thumb is: If I expect something to take an 
> hour, it will probably take 10-20 hours.  :-)
> 
> Best wishes for a productive semester/quarter.

I'd prefere to wait until we have enough sounds to complete the bank. As 
mentioned, count me in for 8 yet, I might add another 8 until december. I'm 
pretty bussy with writing and patch design, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem to 
fill that bank... ;)


On 9 Sep 2004 at 14:07, phonophobie wrote:

> No Problem at all. There really is no need for hurry. For now it would
> be nice if 3 or 4 people would create a pre-version of the bank, or
> just upload there banks. However there is no reason why there can´t
> be a second bank ;)
> 
> ... i`ll leave a notification at EzVz site, too...
> 
> cheers! 
> santa klaus
> 
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
> wrote: > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...>
> wrote: > > I'm at college now, in a dorm, about a two hour drive from
> home. > > computer is here, synths are there. > > I'll definately be
> able to work it out over Christmas break . . . . > > Persoanlly, I am
> in favor of a pre-final version release of the > compilation with
> empty banks so we get the best patches from a number > of VZ users. >
> > > If only someone had thought of this a month ago... > > I have been
> wanting to get back into using VZ sounds for a while, but > only
> started to get into it seriously a week or so ago.  I also got > out
> my Korg EX-800--very, very limited by the standards of a even > decade
> ago, but it has an amazingly rich analog sound. > > > It would
> definately be a good idea (to back up patches and to share > > with
> others) but I don't like swapping midi cables around and > > get
> frustrated when it doesn't work on the first try. > > If something
> works on the first try, I definitely consider it a > blessing!!!!!  My
> rule of thumb is: If I expect something to take an > hour, it will
> probably take 10-20 hours.  :-) > > Best wishes for a productive
> semester/quarter.
> 
> 
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ok. Let´s see how many patches we get together. I think i will add
some more too - or changing my bank, since it contains only voices
that i did that day. We should post from time to time that there is a
patchbank going on. Or maybe a "reminder" on top of the group. Summa,
what do you think about that - i guess you are the moderator of this
group, right?

Anyway, if someone is intrested in changing sounds personally with me,
let me know!

phono



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@f...> wrote:
> I'd prefere to wait until we have enough sounds to complete the
bank. As 
> mentioned, count me in for 8 yet, I might add another 8 until
december. I'm 
> pretty bussy with writing and patch design, otherwise it wouldn't be
a problem to 

> fill that bank... ;)
> 
> 
> On 9 Sep 2004 at 14:07, phonophobie wrote:
> 
> > No Problem at all. There really is no need for hurry. For now it would
> > be nice if 3 or 4 people would create a pre-version of the bank, or
> > just upload there banks. However there is no reason why there can´t
> > be a second bank ;)
> > 
> > ... i`ll leave a notification at EzVz site, too...
> > 
> > cheers! 
> > santa klaus
> > 
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
> > wrote: > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...>
> > wrote: > > I'm at college now, in a dorm, about a two hour drive from
> > home. > > computer is here, synths are there. > > I'll definately be
> > able to work it out over Christmas break . . . . > > Persoanlly, I am
> > in favor of a pre-final version release of the > compilation with
> > empty banks so we get the best patches from a number > of VZ users. >
> > > > If only someone had thought of this a month ago... > > I have been
> > wanting to get back into using VZ sounds for a while, but > only
> > started to get into it seriously a week or so ago.  I also got > out
> > my Korg EX-800--very, very limited by the standards of a even > decade
> > ago, but it has an amazingly rich analog sound. > > > It would
> > definately be a good idea (to back up patches and to share > > with
> > others) but I don't like swapping midi cables around and > > get
> > frustrated when it doesn't work on the first try. > > If something
> > works on the first try, I definitely consider it a > blessing!!!!!  My
> > rule of thumb is: If I expect something to take an > hour, it will
> > probably take 10-20 hours.  :-) > > Best wishes for a productive
> > semester/quarter.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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