--- "M.J.B." <yazzofever@...> wrote:
> DM,
>
> Thanks for the great response. Let me get this
> straight: If I turn off velocity sensitivity on
> the CZ-1 and play a patch, it will sound the same
> as an identical patch on the 101,1000, etc.
>
> Is that right?
Yes, since the synth-engines are the same minus
velocity and after-touch the earlier CZ's don't have
> Why would you add velocity sensitivity for
> brightness or amplitude? Doesn't velocity
> sensitivity strictly have to do with volume due
> to amount of pressure on the key. What does it
> have to do with filters?
I put filter in quotes because the CZ doesn't really
have a filter. It achieves the brightness or timbre
changes through phase-distortion (hence the name of
the synth). When you play a real piano and strike the
keys harder (with greater velocity) the sound not only
is louder (the amplitude of the sound waves are
greater), it's also brighter. So if you program the
CZ-1's loudness (amplitude) and brightness (the
"filter" or phase-distortion) to respond to velocity,
you can have greater dynamic control over the sound,
making it louder and brighter (or less so) just by
playing with different velocities.
> yazzofever
> --- DM <wadrad@...> wrote:
>
> > Hey micah,
> >
> > My first synth was a CZ-1000 and I currently
> > own a
> > CZ-5000 and a CZ-1. IF I'm not using the
> > velocity
> > sensitivity on the CZ-1, I can't tell a
> > difference
> > between the CZ-5000 and the CZ-1 with identical
> > patches.
> >
> > The drawback with the CZ-1 is if you have a
> > fairly
> > bright and punchy sound with no velocity
> > control
> > programmed in, and then you add the velocity
> > sensitivity for the brightness ("filter") and
> > the
> > amplitude, then anything less than a full slam
> > on the
> > keys won't be near as "bright" or "punchy"
> > (depending
> > on how much velocity sensitivity you add to the
> > patch).
> >
> > For the velocity sensitivity on the CZ-1, it
> > takes the
> > parameters you've programmed for a patch and
> > establishes those amounts as the sound you
> > would get
> > with a maximum velocity key hit. Anything less
> > than
> > max velocity gives you less volume and less
> > brightness
> > than what you programmed into the sound
> > (depending on
> > how much you've turned up the velocity
> > sensitivity for
> > both brightness and amplitude).
> >
> > Make sense? Hope so. I've got a pretty good
> > CZ book
> > that explains it better, but of course, I can't
> > find
> > it right now. I've also seen a similar answer
> > posted
> > on one of the CZ groups.
> >
> > Later,
> > Wadrad
> >
> > --- yazzofever <yazzofever@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is the million dollar question noone has
> > been
> > > able to answer for me.
> > >
> > > I've heard rumors that the CZ-1 doesn't have
> > the
> > > same "punch", "bass", "low
> > > end" and other stuff that the
> > CZ-101,1000,3000,5000
> > > have?
> > >
> > > Is there any truth to this. From what I can
> > tell,
> > > the CZ-1 sound exactly like it's
> > > older brothers on the CZ line.
> > >
> > > Please respond CZ users. Let's put this
> > argument to
> > > rest once and for all
> > >
> > > micah
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [CZsynth] CZ-1 sound-same as 101,1000,3000,5000
2005-03-20 by DM
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