It can't be done. The CZ's envelope generator is limited to 4 attacks and decays/releases. You might be able to find something like a vintage Vox tremolo/repeat pedal; put an organ sound through one of these and you get a mandolin effect. But I don't know anyone who makes a unit like this these days. An analogue synth with an external input (e.g. Korg MS-10) would work too. As far as the "Cosmic Tone" is concerned, try the "Double Sine" waveform with a slow DCW attack - that does something like the octave shift you described. Another possibility for the mandolin effect might be to get a Casio SA-75 - it's a children's keyboard, but it does have that repeat mandolin sound and it costs less than £30/$50. Simon Beck Londson, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: illuminatusraw To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:42 AM Subject: [CZsynth] Question regarding cz 101 emulations of Casio 101 presets I recently sold my Casio 101 in order to purchase a casio cz-101 in order to increase my sonic arsenal. But a few of the presets on my original 101 are critical to songs my band has written. most crucially the mandolin feature that simulates a mandolin tremelo picking. And cosmic tone that is a basic octave filter that passes between and upper to a lower octave gradually. Does anyone know where i can find these patches? I have a harpsicord patch that sounds like the mandolin wave form but I need to modify it so it repeats as the key is depressed here is the harpsichord patch i use. TONE Name harpsichord #2 PARAMETER LINE SELECT MODULATION DETUNE VIBRATO OCTAVE |1,2,12',11'| |ring|noise| |+/-|oct|note|fine| |wave|dly|rt|dep| |+/-|range| | 1+2' | | | | | + | 2 | 0 | 06 | | 1 | 0 |00|00 | | + | 1 | |___________| |____|_____| |___|___|____|____| |____|___|__|___| |___|_____| ************************************ ************************************ (1) (2) DCO 1 DCO 2 WAVE FORM WAVE FORM |first|second| |first|second| | 3 | 6 | | 3 | 7 | |_____|______| |_____|______| (1-8) (0-8) (1-8) (0-8) ENV(PITCH) ENV(PITCH) step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| rate|99 |99 |99 | | | | | |0-99 rate|99 |99 | | | | | | | levl|99 |00 |00 | | | | | |0-99 levl|21 |00 | | | | | | | s/e | | s | e | | | | | | s/e | | e | | | | | | | _____________________________________ _____________________________________ DCW 1 DCW 2 KEY FOLLOW KEY FOLLOW | 5 |(0-9) | 3 |(0-9) |___________| |___________| ENV(WAVE) ENV(WAVE) step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| rate|99 |00 | | | | | | |0-99 rate|99 |00 | | | | | | | levl|50 |00 | | | | | | |0-99 levl|52 |00 | | | | | | | s/e | s | e | | | | | | | s/e | | e | | | | | | | _____________________________________ _____________________________________ DCA 1 DCA 2 KEY FOLLOW KEY FOLLOW | 9 |(0-9) | 3 |(0-9) |___________| |___________| ENV(AMP) ENV(AMP) step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| rate|99 |33 |57 |99 | | | | |0-99 rate|76 |94 |58 |44 |99 | | | | levl|90 |16 |00 |00 | | | | |0-99 levl|02 |99 |90 |00 |00 | | | | s/e | | | s | e | | | | | s/e | | | | s | e | | | | [l]ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/midi/patches/casio/CZ-1[/l] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 16-Jun-06 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [CZsynth] Question regarding cz 101 emulations of Casio 101 presets
2006-06-16 by Simon Beck
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