Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

I recently sold my Casio 101 in order to purchase a casio cz-101 in
order to increase my sonic arsenal. But a few of the presets on my
original 101 are critical to songs my band has written. most crucially
the mandolin feature that simulates a mandolin tremelo picking. And
cosmic tone that is a basic octave filter that passes between and
upper to a lower octave gradually. Does anyone know where i can find
these patches? I have a harpsicord patch that sounds like the mandolin
wave form but I need to modify it so it repeats as the key is
depressed here is the harpsichord patch i use.

    TONE Name harpsichord #2
PARAMETER
 
 LINE SELECT   MODULATION         DETUNE            VIBRATO        OCTAVE
|1,2,12',11'| |ring|noise| |+/-|oct|note|fine| |wave|dly|rt|dep|
|+/-|range|
|  1+2'     | |    |     | | + | 2 | 0  | 06 | | 1  | 0 |00|00 | | + |
 1  |
|___________| |____|_____| |___|___|____|____| |____|___|__|___|
|___|_____|
 
************************************   
************************************
(1)					(2)
DCO 1					DCO 2
  WAVE FORM  			 	  WAVE FORM
|first|second|				|first|second|
|  3  |  6   |                          |  3  |  7   |               
      
|_____|______|                          |_____|______|               
        
 (1-8)  (0-8)                            (1-8)  (0-8)  
               ENV(PITCH)                             ENV(PITCH)
step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|    
step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|
rate|99 |99 |99 |   |   |   |   |   |0-99 rate|99 |99 |   |   |   |  
|   |   |
levl|99 |00 |00 |   |   |   |   |   |0-99 levl|21 |00 |   |   |   |  
|   |   |
s/e |   | s | e |   |   |   |   |   |     s/e |   | e |   |   |   |  
|   |   |
_____________________________________    
_____________________________________
 
DCW 1                                   DCW 2                        
        
  KEY FOLLOW                              KEY FOLLOW                 
         
|     5     |(0-9)                      |     3     |(0-9)
|___________|                           |___________|
 
               ENV(WAVE)                             ENV(WAVE)
step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|    
step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|
rate|99 |00 |   |   |   |   |   |   |0-99 rate|99 |00 |   |   |   |  
|   |   |
levl|50 |00 |   |   |   |   |   |   |0-99 levl|52 |00 |   |   |   |  
|   |   |
s/e | s | e |   |   |   |   |   |   |     s/e |   | e |   |   |   |  
|   |   |
_____________________________________    
_____________________________________
 
DCA 1                                   DCA 2                        
        
  KEY FOLLOW                              KEY FOLLOW                 
         
|     9     |(0-9)                      |     3     |(0-9)
|___________|                           |___________|
 
               ENV(AMP)                             ENV(AMP)
step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|    
step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|
rate|99 |33 |57 |99 |   |   |   |   |0-99 rate|76 |94 |58 |44 |99 |  
|   |   |
levl|90 |16 |00 |00 |   |   |   |   |0-99 levl|02 |99 |90 |00 |00 |  
|   |   |
s/e |   |   | s | e |   |   |   |   |     s/e |   |   |   | s | e |  
|   |   |
[l]ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/midi/patches/casio/CZ-1[/l]

It can't be done. The CZ's envelope generator is limited to 4 attacks and decays/releases. You might be able to find something like a vintage Vox tremolo/repeat pedal; put an organ sound through one of these and you get a mandolin effect. But I don't know anyone who makes a unit like this these days. An analogue synth with an external input (e.g. Korg MS-10) would work too. As far as the "Cosmic Tone" is concerned, try the "Double Sine" waveform with a slow DCW attack - that does something like the octave shift you described.

Another possibility for the mandolin effect might be to get a Casio SA-75 - it's a children's keyboard, but it does have that repeat mandolin sound and it costs less than £30/$50.

Simon Beck
Londson, UK

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: illuminatusraw 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:42 AM
  Subject: [CZsynth] Question regarding cz 101 emulations of Casio 101 presets


  I recently sold my Casio 101 in order to purchase a casio cz-101 in
  order to increase my sonic arsenal. But a few of the presets on my
  original 101 are critical to songs my band has written. most crucially
  the mandolin feature that simulates a mandolin tremelo picking. And
  cosmic tone that is a basic octave filter that passes between and
  upper to a lower octave gradually. Does anyone know where i can find
  these patches? I have a harpsicord patch that sounds like the mandolin
  wave form but I need to modify it so it repeats as the key is
  depressed here is the harpsichord patch i use.

  TONE Name harpsichord #2
  PARAMETER

  LINE SELECT MODULATION DETUNE VIBRATO OCTAVE
  |1,2,12',11'| |ring|noise| |+/-|oct|note|fine| |wave|dly|rt|dep|
  |+/-|range|
  | 1+2' | | | | | + | 2 | 0 | 06 | | 1 | 0 |00|00 | | + |
  1 |
  |___________| |____|_____| |___|___|____|____| |____|___|__|___|
  |___|_____|

  ************************************ 
  ************************************
  (1) (2)
  DCO 1 DCO 2
  WAVE FORM WAVE FORM
  |first|second| |first|second|
  | 3 | 6 | | 3 | 7 | 

  |_____|______| |_____|______| 

  (1-8) (0-8) (1-8) (0-8) 
  ENV(PITCH) ENV(PITCH)
  step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| 
  step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|
  rate|99 |99 |99 | | | | | |0-99 rate|99 |99 | | | | 
  | | |
  levl|99 |00 |00 | | | | | |0-99 levl|21 |00 | | | | 
  | | |
  s/e | | s | e | | | | | | s/e | | e | | | | 
  | | |
  _____________________________________ 
  _____________________________________

  DCW 1 DCW 2 

  KEY FOLLOW KEY FOLLOW 

  | 5 |(0-9) | 3 |(0-9)
  |___________| |___________|

  ENV(WAVE) ENV(WAVE)
  step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| 
  step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|
  rate|99 |00 | | | | | | |0-99 rate|99 |00 | | | | 
  | | |
  levl|50 |00 | | | | | | |0-99 levl|52 |00 | | | | 
  | | |
  s/e | s | e | | | | | | | s/e | | e | | | | 
  | | |
  _____________________________________ 
  _____________________________________

  DCA 1 DCA 2 

  KEY FOLLOW KEY FOLLOW 

  | 9 |(0-9) | 3 |(0-9)
  |___________| |___________|

  ENV(AMP) ENV(AMP)
  step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| 
  step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|
  rate|99 |33 |57 |99 | | | | |0-99 rate|76 |94 |58 |44 |99 | 
  | | |
  levl|90 |16 |00 |00 | | | | |0-99 levl|02 |99 |90 |00 |00 | 
  | | |
  s/e | | | s | e | | | | | s/e | | | | s | e | 
  | | |
  [l]ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/midi/patches/casio/CZ-1[/l]



   


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Thanx for the reply. I think I'm going to try a Boss digital delay
pedal. It's designed for guitarists (like me) and it has an infinite
rate and depth function. 



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Beck" <simon@...> wrote:
>
> It can't be done. The CZ's envelope generator is limited to 4
attacks and decays/releases. You might be able to find something like
a vintage Vox tremolo/repeat pedal; put an organ sound through one of
these and you get a mandolin effect. But I don't know anyone who makes
a unit like this these days. An analogue synth with an external input
(e.g. Korg MS-10) would work too. As far as the "Cosmic Tone" is
concerned, try the "Double Sine" waveform with a slow DCW attack -
that does something like the octave shift you described.
> 
> Another possibility for the mandolin effect might be to get a Casio
SA-75 - it's a children's keyboard, but it does have that repeat
mandolin sound and it costs less than £30/$50.
> 
> Simon Beck
> Londson, UK
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: illuminatusraw 
>   To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:42 AM
>   Subject: [CZsynth] Question regarding cz 101 emulations of Casio
101 presets
> 
> 
>   I recently sold my Casio 101 in order to purchase a casio cz-101 in
>   order to increase my sonic arsenal. But a few of the presets on my
>   original 101 are critical to songs my band has written. most crucially
>   the mandolin feature that simulates a mandolin tremelo picking. And
>   cosmic tone that is a basic octave filter that passes between and
>   upper to a lower octave gradually. Does anyone know where i can find
>   these patches? I have a harpsicord patch that sounds like the mandolin
>   wave form but I need to modify it so it repeats as the key is
>   depressed here is the harpsichord patch i use.
> 
>   TONE Name harpsichord #2
>   PARAMETER
> 
>   LINE SELECT MODULATION DETUNE VIBRATO OCTAVE
>   |1,2,12',11'| |ring|noise| |+/-|oct|note|fine| |wave|dly|rt|dep|
>   |+/-|range|
>   | 1+2' | | | | | + | 2 | 0 | 06 | | 1 | 0 |00|00 | | + |
>   1 |
>   |___________| |____|_____| |___|___|____|____| |____|___|__|___|
>   |___|_____|
> 
>   ************************************ 
>   ************************************
>   (1) (2)
>   DCO 1 DCO 2
>   WAVE FORM WAVE FORM
>   |first|second| |first|second|
>   | 3 | 6 | | 3 | 7 | 
> 
>   |_____|______| |_____|______| 
> 
>   (1-8) (0-8) (1-8) (0-8) 
>   ENV(PITCH) ENV(PITCH)
>   step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| 
>   step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|
>   rate|99 |99 |99 | | | | | |0-99 rate|99 |99 | | | | 
>   | | |
>   levl|99 |00 |00 | | | | | |0-99 levl|21 |00 | | | | 
>   | | |
>   s/e | | s | e | | | | | | s/e | | e | | | | 
>   | | |
>   _____________________________________ 
>   _____________________________________
> 
>   DCW 1 DCW 2 
> 
>   KEY FOLLOW KEY FOLLOW 
> 
>   | 5 |(0-9) | 3 |(0-9)
>   |___________| |___________|
> 
>   ENV(WAVE) ENV(WAVE)
>   step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| 
>   step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|
>   rate|99 |00 | | | | | | |0-99 rate|99 |00 | | | | 
>   | | |
>   levl|50 |00 | | | | | | |0-99 levl|52 |00 | | | | 
>   | | |
>   s/e | s | e | | | | | | | s/e | | e | | | | 
>   | | |
>   _____________________________________ 
>   _____________________________________
> 
>   DCA 1 DCA 2 
> 
>   KEY FOLLOW KEY FOLLOW 
> 
>   | 9 |(0-9) | 3 |(0-9)
>   |___________| |___________|
> 
>   ENV(AMP) ENV(AMP)
>   step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_| 
>   step|_1_|_2_|_3_|_4_|_5_|_6_|_7_|_8_|
>   rate|99 |33 |57 |99 | | | | |0-99 rate|76 |94 |58 |44 |99 | 
>   | | |
>   levl|90 |16 |00 |00 | | | | |0-99 levl|02 |99 |90 |00 |00 | 
>   | | |
>   s/e | | | s | e | | | | | s/e | | | | s | e | 
>   | | |
>   [l]ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/midi/patches/casio/CZ-1[/l]
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> 
>
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