Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Narfman,

Thanks for offering to rearrange some patches for me, but I'm afraid
it's one of those things I have to do myself.  When I get the urge to
organize things, I have to do it myself or it doesn't scratch the
itch.  Don't worry about it, I'll figure out some way to do it.  Some
combination of DOS and Atari Emulators!

I was hopeful for a while that a new, modern patch editor was about to
be released.  Read about it at this link:
http://www.em411.com/forum/1874/0//more_casio_cz1000queiries.html#
I posted there as "Organization" of course.

Also, thanks for the rundown of things that work for you.

m¡ke


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys here's my experience with editors for my CZ-1 but these 
> editors are not free. 
> 
> MidiQuest works great for editing patches but will not edit the Tone 
> Memory. They never wrote that part into their editor. I've tried to 
> work with them on this but this synth is to obscure for them to take 
> seriously. Also they had to send me an updated profile so I could get 
> all 64 patches to and from the synth.
> 
> Unisyn works great for the CZ-1 but I have an old version of 
> Unisyn (V1.14) that only works up to Win98 and will not work with XP 
> at all. Also I had to find an updated CZ-1 profile from a programmer 
> that fixed the profile so it would work properly. I have these 
> profiles for the CZx000 and CZ-1 if anyone wants them. Motu won't 
> help with the XP thing at all. Grrrr!
> 
> I used every free editor I could find including the Atari ones using 
> Steem and had the same luck. I could send patches back and forth but 
> they never had all the parameters like velocity and aftertouch. They 
> weren't specifically designed for the CZ-1. 
> 
> So here's the deal... If you give me a list of what types of patches 
> or even specific ones I can put them in any order you need. I will do 
> this to help out. I haven't played around with my CZ-1 in a while so 
> I would like to. I'm working now on writing a bunch of patches for a 
> Peavey Spectrum Synth module I just repaired. I could use a CZ break.
> 
> Narfman   
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Fulfil Objective" <kasploosh@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > 
> > I have never used a USB/MIDI interface, but it should work fine.  If
> > it works for other MIDI applications, then it will work for 
> retrieving
> > patch data from your CZ-1.
> > 
> > I have a CZ-1 and I use Windows.  Here's what works for me:
> > 
> > Install this program on your computer:
> > http://www.midiox.com/
> > This program will be able to find your MIDI connection and will be
> > able to talk to your CZ-1.
> > 
> > Next download the fabulous patches that Narfman made.  They will 
> work
> > perfectly with your CZ-1.  They are located in the files section of
> > this Yahoo Group.  Or you can find them at this link.
> > http://www.jz-
> server.de/forum/e107_files/public/1155731929_48_FT0_cz1vel01.zip
> > 
> > All you have to do after that is use MIDIOX to send the patches from
> > your computer to the keyboard.  It's suprisingly easy.  If you need
> > more detailed information, there is a tutorial on this website:
> > http://www.cosmosynthesizer.de/
> > 
> > m¡ke
> > 
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, bill bigrig <billbigrig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Howdy,
> > > 
> > >  i have a Cz-1 and 2 cz-101s. My problem is, no midi
> > > port in computer. usb/midi interface only. I need to
> > > have aprogramthat will work with the CZ-1. Then i will
> > > download patches into the computer and send them out
> > > the usb port through the converter. after that,
> > > everything gets stored on an alesis midi disc. An
> > > editor would be nice too. My cz-101s have been modded
> > > to hold 4 banks of sounds on the ra-3 cartridge, so i
> > > think i could throw some in there too. I just need the
> > > download, librarian and editor stuff for the computer.
> > > i think the usb/midi box will work, i hope. THANX!
> > > Rig
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Fulfil Objective <kasploosh@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Mark,
> > > > 
> > > > Here is the general idea of how to use computers
> > > > along with your CZ
> > > > synthesizer:
> > > > 
> > > > The CZ synthesizer communicates with sysex data that
> > > > travels over a
> > > > midi cable.  A CZ synth can both send and receive
> > > > data.
> > > > 
> > > > If you have some sysex data, you can send it to your
> > > > computer.  And if
> > > > you have a keyboard full of sounds, you can send
> > > > them to your computer
> > > > and save them forever and ever.  Then reload them at
> > > > a later date.
> > > > 
> > > > To do this, you need to connect your computer to
> > > > your keyboard with a
> > > > MIDI cable.  Then you need a computer program that
> > > > can send MIDI data
> > > > to your keyboard.  There are many differnt programs.
> > > >  I have had good
> > > > luck with MIDIOX. (http://www.midiox.com)
> > > > 
> > > > A couple n00b mistakes not to make:
> > > > - Connect the cables the right way, "midi out" from
> > > > the computer to
> > > > "midi in" on the synth
> > > > - To send data to your CZ synth you need to have the
> > > > protect switch off.
> > > > - To send data to your CZ synth you need to have
> > > > "System Exclusive
> > > > Tone Data" enabled.
> > > > 
> > > > Now all you have to do is find some sysex data to
> > > > load.  Look for
> > > > files that advertise "CZ patches" and have an
> > > > extension of ".syx".
> > > > 
> > > > I would give you a link to some sysex data, but I
> > > > don't know which
> > > > synthesizer you have.  Different CZs hold different
> > > > amounts of data:
> > > > CZ-101: 16 user patches
> > > > CZ-1000: 16 user patches
> > > > CZ-3000: 32 user patches
> > > > CZ-5000: 32 user patches
> > > > CZ-1: 64 user patches
> > > > 
> > > > It's best to find a sysex dump that came from the
> > > > same sort of machine
> > > > you have.  Which CZ do you use?
> > > > 
> > > > There is a good tutorial on this site which helped
> > > > me out:
> > > > http://www.cosmosynthesizer.de/
> > > > When you visit that page, click on "MIDI & SYX" at
> > > > the top of the
> > > > page.  There you will find the tutorial on dumping
> > > > and loading.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Rauch"
> > > > <billbigrig@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > 
> > > > >  That is a good question. i have not used
> > > > computers at all in music. 
> > > > > but now i've decided to at least load some CZ
> > > > sounds off the net. 
> > > > > What do I need to do this? I have a dual usb/midi
> > > > adapter, that's 
> > > > > all. Where do I get a program to download sounds
> > > > and put them in the 
> > > > > synth/ thanx
> > > > > Rig
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Fulfil Objective"
> > > > <kasploosh@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, I have been using the patch dumps you made
> > > > and I definitely
> > > > > > appreciate the work.  It's fun to pump the
> > > > machine full of new 
> > > > > sounds
> > > > > > in just a few seconds.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have not been able to get a functioning patch
> > > > editor and librarian
> > > > > > working on my computer, though, and that's still
> > > > big hangnail in my
> > > > > > life.  I can dump sysex data back and forth with
> > > > MIDIOX.  But I 
> > > > > wish I
> > > > > > had a little (free) program on my computer that
> > > > would let me
> > > > > > manipulate the sysex data.  I've read back
> > > > through this yahoo group
> > > > > > for ideas, and tried all of them I could find.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What I would like to be able to do is
> > > > rearrange/rename the patches 
> > > > > in
> > > > > > any given sysex dump.  For example, you have
> > > > them arranged in what
> > > > > > looks like rough alphabetical order.  I would
> > > > like to make a dump 
> > > > > that
> > > > > > is all organs, one that is all electric pianos,
> > > > one that is all toy
> > > > > > pianos, one that is all basses, one that is all
> > > > synth leads, etc. 
> > > > > > That way they would be more suited to my needs. 
> > > > It's just hex data,
> > > > > > so it doesn't seem like it would be that hard.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Also I'm on the lookout for a patch editor, so
> > > > that I can quickly 
> > > > > make
> > > > > > changes on a computer and shoot them over to the
> > > > keyboard.  It seems
> > > > > > like that would be faster and better than
> > > > messing with the little 
> > > > > LCD
> > > > > > screen and nested menus.  I've read back in this
> > > > group as well, but
> > > > > > haven't had any luck.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I even ran the Atari emulator and tried CZDROID
> > > > and CZRIDER.  
> > > > > CZRIDER
> > > > > > was really promising as a patch editor, but it
> > > > wasn't quite 100%.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also tried CZPATCH and CZEDIT running under
> > > > DOS emulators, but had
> > > > > > similar problems.  The programs worked, but they
> > > > couldn't talk to 
> > > > > the
> > > > > > keyboard, probably because they are being run
> > > > under emulators.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Here is a list of the things I've tried and some
> > > > of my notes:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > CZ Sysex Editor
> > > > > > ---------------
> > > > > > by Alfonso Hermida
> > > > > > - Won't send data to CZ-1.
> > > > > > - Saves as .syx, so I can send the saved data
> > > > with MIDIOX.
> > > > > > - But MIDIOX doesn't transmit the patch names.
> > > > > > - Also, when saving as .syx the program doesn't
> > > > save the patch data.
> > > > > > - Can't control where patches are sent.
> > > > > > - Can't transmit velocity and aftertouch data.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > CZDROID running on STEEM Atari Emulator
> > > > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > 1986 by Tom Bajoras
> > > > > > - Droid function for random patches is cool
> > > > > > - Edits patches fine, but doesn't send them to
> > > > the CZ-1
> > > > > > - Doesn't save data in a sysex format, so
> > > > patches created here can't
> > > > > > really be used.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > CZRIDER running on STEEM Atari Emulator
> > > > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > > > by Bob Melvin
> > > > > > - Edits patches nicely
> > > > > > - Saves patches to disk
> > > > > > - Recalls saved patches
> > > > > > - Can send a collection of patches to CZ-1, but
> > > > patch names aren't
> > > > > > transmitted.
> > > > > > - Can't retrieve patch data from CZ-1.
> > > > > > - Can't transmit patch names.
> > > > > > - Can't control where patches are sent.
> > > > > > - Can't transmit velocity and aftertouch data.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > CZPATCH running on DOSBox DOS Emulator
> > > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > > 1991 by Karl Schmidt
> > > > > > - Librarian only
> > > > > > - Can't talk MIDI with CZ-1, maybe because of
> > > > emulator
> > > > > > - Seems difficult to use for renaming and
> > > > regrouping patches.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > CZEDIT running on DOSBox DOS Emulator
> > > > > > -------------------------------------
> > > > > > 1988 by Gary P. Richardi
> > > > 
> > > === message truncated ===
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
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