Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Hi. Check out the VZ - Docs in the file section here for VZ 
programming and sysex dump tips.   

If you have a computer midied in with the VZ, you should be able to 
download the VZ data as backup into the computer using either a 
software sequencer that can handle sysex banks or a utility, such as 
Midi-ox.

Also, somewhere either in the files section here (or in the 
spillover group) there are some VZ banks that users have comtributed.

I have the VZ-8M which has 3 patch modes: keyboard, guitar, and 
wind. I don't know if the VZ-10M has that capability. I am wondering 
if the RAM sounds are in Guitar mode but the VZ-10M can't play those.
If you can download the RAM banks to a syx file and post here, I'd 
give them a test on the VZ-8M. Perhaps you need the functionality of 
the VZ-8M to create guitar presets and op-mems for the PG.

Also, if you really want to get into it, the user known as 
phonophobie posted (either here or in the spillover group) some VZ 
editing software for the Atari which can be run on a PC with Atari 
emulator software called Steam.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

PS: If the VZ-10M doesn't have the 3 modes, check out the VZ-8M 
manual for an explanation (not suire where its posted). Basically, 
guitar mode uses mono mode on 6 different channels--one for each 
string. If the VZ-10M doesn't have the 3 modes, that might account 
for the thinner sound, too.

Also, I am not sure what happens to the extra sysex data when you do 
a bulk dump to the VZ-10M (assuming it doesn't have the 3 modes). If 
it gets lost, and you want to dump the data to a computer, you'd 
have to do that from the PG (or from a VZ-8M).

Hmmmmm. If the PG doesn't have bulk transfer capability (does it?), 
it might be possible to send a request from a computer to the PG.

--Steve


 --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "gmeredith1" <gmeredith1@...> wrote:
>
> I have a Casio PG380 synth guitar and a VZ10M, which I use to 
program 
> the PG's RAM card, for extra sounds. I only just recently got the 
RAM 
> card, and it had sounds already on it. I've also only just 
recently got 
> the VZ10m, so I don't know it very well. 
> 
> The problem is, is that when I play the guitar synth with the RAM 
card 
> in it - I get all the normal sounds playing - 64 in all. Then when 
I go 
> and put the RAM card in the VZ and select CARD, I can only hear 
about 8 
> or so sounds in the whole card. Flipping through all the banks and 
> numbers shows only about one or 2 sounds per A-H bank letter. 
> 
> I thought I read somewhere that sometimes the VZ can set some 
parameter 
> to "0" or something like that, and effectively the patch is there 
but 
> isn't outputting. Also, the sounds sound different somewhat in the 
> guitar (full, and like they're supposed to sound) whereas in the 
VZ, it 
> sounds like some oscillators aren't switched on for that patch 
(all of 
> the INTERNAL sounds in the VZ are fine). 
> 
> I'll try saving some internal sounds to the card and see if they 
can be 
> heard when played from the card. The trouble is, there are sounds 
on 
> the card that I want, so I don't want to overwrite the card, just 
to 
> get it to initialise, if this is the problem. Just to reiterate, 
the 
> card works fine in the guitar.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Cheers, graham
>