Thank, Steve, for your help!
I think the VZ10m does have 3 modes, or can at least be able to be
set up like the guitar mode in the 8m. I'll try doing a dump soon (I
have to do a backup of my sounds anyway).
Meanwhile, yesterday I tried simply to save some internal VZ sounds
onto the RAM card and see what happened. All of the sounds I saved to
cartridge were able to be played from the card correctly, both in the
VZ, and in the PG guitar. So perhaps I simply need to reformat my
card (I bought it separately to all my other gear, so I don't know
what the last user was using it with). As for the sounds I already
have on the card that don't sound in the VZ, I can still edit
them "blindly" by tweaking the parameters I think I need visually,
then loading it into the guitar. Hard work, but it does the job. When
I get around to it, I'll build these sounds I want to keep from the
card from scratch on the VZ, then overwrite the card sounds. It's
just that there was some really good bass sounds on the card, whoever
made them up before I bought it.
Somewhere (I can't find it now) I read a programming tip that
mentioned that in some situations, the VZ sets a parameter to zero if
some other parameter is set at a certain setting, and results in no
sound output. I'll keep searching, but in the meantime, I'll just
keep replicating my card sounds from similar sounds, modified, in the
internal VZ memory.
Cheers and thanks,
Graham
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi. Check out the VZ - Docs in the file section here for VZ
> programming and sysex dump tips.
>
> If you have a computer midied in with the VZ, you should be able to
> download the VZ data as backup into the computer using either a
> software sequencer that can handle sysex banks or a utility, such
as
> Midi-ox.
>
> Also, somewhere either in the files section here (or in the
> spillover group) there are some VZ banks that users have
comtributed.
>
> I have the VZ-8M which has 3 patch modes: keyboard, guitar, and
> wind. I don't know if the VZ-10M has that capability. I am
wondering
> if the RAM sounds are in Guitar mode but the VZ-10M can't play
those.
> If you can download the RAM banks to a syx file and post here, I'd
> give them a test on the VZ-8M. Perhaps you need the functionality
of
> the VZ-8M to create guitar presets and op-mems for the PG.
>
> Also, if you really want to get into it, the user known as
> phonophobie posted (either here or in the spillover group) some VZ
> editing software for the Atari which can be run on a PC with Atari
> emulator software called Steam.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --Steve
>
> PS: If the VZ-10M doesn't have the 3 modes, check out the VZ-8M
> manual for an explanation (not suire where its posted). Basically,
> guitar mode uses mono mode on 6 different channels--one for each
> string. If the VZ-10M doesn't have the 3 modes, that might account
> for the thinner sound, too.
>
> Also, I am not sure what happens to the extra sysex data when you
do
> a bulk dump to the VZ-10M (assuming it doesn't have the 3 modes).
If
> it gets lost, and you want to dump the data to a computer, you'd
> have to do that from the PG (or from a VZ-8M).
>
> Hmmmmm. If the PG doesn't have bulk transfer capability (does it?),
> it might be possible to send a request from a computer to the PG.
>
> --Steve
>
>
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "gmeredith1" <gmeredith1@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a Casio PG380 synth guitar and a VZ10M, which I use to
> program
> > the PG's RAM card, for extra sounds. I only just recently got the
> RAM
> > card, and it had sounds already on it. I've also only just
> recently got
> > the VZ10m, so I don't know it very well.
> >
> > The problem is, is that when I play the guitar synth with the RAM
> card
> > in it - I get all the normal sounds playing - 64 in all. Then
when
> I go
> > and put the RAM card in the VZ and select CARD, I can only hear
> about 8
> > or so sounds in the whole card. Flipping through all the banks
and
> > numbers shows only about one or 2 sounds per A-H bank letter.
> >
> > I thought I read somewhere that sometimes the VZ can set some
> parameter
> > to "0" or something like that, and effectively the patch is there
> but
> > isn't outputting. Also, the sounds sound different somewhat in
the
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> > guitar (full, and like they're supposed to sound) whereas in the
> VZ, it
> > sounds like some oscillators aren't switched on for that patch
> (all of
> > the INTERNAL sounds in the VZ are fine).
> >
> > I'll try saving some internal sounds to the card and see if they
> can be
> > heard when played from the card. The trouble is, there are sounds
> on
> > the card that I want, so I don't want to overwrite the card, just
> to
> > get it to initialise, if this is the problem. Just to reiterate,
> the
> > card works fine in the guitar.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Cheers, graham
> >
>