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> What middle class? Who are you talking about specifically? There

i'm talking bout pre-internet indie bands and labels. if you listen to
punk rock, pick any punk band ever. i don't know... sonic youth?

> are still bars where cover bands get nightly gigs. If that's what
> you want to do, I'm sure there are opportunities. But the record
> industry has ALWAYS been hit-driven. You don't have a hit, you don't
> make money. It's never been any other way. Now that there are
> industry-respected online charts, more artists than ever are charting
> and getting exposure. I'm not here to insult you, but maybe you're
> just bitter because you never got to grab the brass ring?

ha! i wish it were so simple.

 There are
> tons of new bands out there making scads of money. Far more than I
> could ever hope to keep up with, luckily most don't interest me.

>> there is no
>> question that illegal downloads are bad for cd sales; this is as
>> obvious as you can get.
>
> Your own statements regarding 'viral marketing' earlier in the same
> post suggested that illegal downloads lead directly to greater CD
> sales.

yes, i am trying to present both sides. i was also replying to
'geeeezer's query: "why are the ethics of downloading complicated?, to
paraphrase. well, they are complicated.

>> but i haven't made any money off
>> music, and i don't expect to. (when people in my band start talking
>> about licensing deals at practice, i know it's my time to quit...)
>
> Ah, ok, so you deliberately sabotage your own career on a regular
> basis. Well hey, we all know there is a greater proportion of the
> insane among musicians than in the general population.

hm, i thought you weren't here to insult me. ;)

it happens that i personally have never thought that my records could
make money on their own, and i'm just not interested in pursuing a
full-time music career since it would mean having to think bout a lot
of weird stuff that has nothing to do with making records. i'm much
happier as a part time musician with a well-paying day job. i think a
lot of people are reaching that conclusion, for better or worse.