Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Karl,
 
About point 5 - MIDI ox and the post which suggested a manual dump as needed with Jsynth.
 
I use MIDI ox to dump files on the CZ1000/101 - MIDI ox is quite capable of doing it- however it is not a simple matter of using ONE instance of MIDIox.
 
This is how I did it:
 
Open one instance of MIDI ox and set it's device controls so that it is only operating with MIDI OUT and does not have control of MIDI IN.
 
Open a second instance of MIDIox and set it so that it has only control of MIDI IN.
 
Set the instance of the program that has control of MIDI IN to catch a manual MIDI dump on SYSx.
 
Use the instance that has control of MIDI OUT,to send the dump request from the SYSx screen. ( I have the actual bytes if anyone needs them).
 
You should find that once the MIDI OUT midiox has sent the bytes for the dump request - the MIDI IN instance of midiox receives the manual dump as if it had been initiated from the CZ. I suspect a similar system could be used to prompt the CZ to send sysx to Jsynth or any other librarian. MIDIox is an incredibly useful program - and starts first time without any other components being needed!
 


--- On Sun, 25/10/09, Karl H. May <kmay@...> wrote:


From: Karl H. May <kmay@....au>
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 25 October, 2009, 23:34


  



Hi All,

I have been trying without success for about 12 months to get an
editor/librarian working for my CZ101 in Windows XP or 3.1. I use 3.1
for midi sequencing on an old 486.

I mainly want a librarian because I don't mind editing sounds on the CZ
itself.

This is what I have found so far:

1. There is a freeware patch editor at ahermida@erols. com. It is called
CZSysEditor. My recollection is that it will work under XP.

2. There is a freeware editor/librarian called Soundlib at
www.sonicspot. com. It looks very good, but I haven't been able to get it
to work under either XP or 3.1. If anyone gets it to work, please post
the steps they took to get it to work.

3. There is a file called cseo2install floating around. It is an
editor/librarian. I haven't tried it. Google it.

4.I have tried the sys ex librarian in the sequencer I use, Powertracks.
It will get The CZ to dump data to it, but only 7 bytes. This is an
incomplete dump.

5. Midi Ox may not work, because I believe it requires the synth to
initiate the dump. I believe there is no facility in the CZ to initiate
a dump.

6. I have tried MidiQuest versions 4,6, and 10, and none of them work
with my CZ.

I have had dialogue with Michael Lambie at MidiQuest about it. He says
MQ seems to work with some CZ's but not others. He doesn't know why, but
wonders whether the specs were changed during the production life. He
says the CZ1 was a later synth with a more friendly sys ex
implementation. He sent me some modified drivers which I haven't tried
yet. He suspects the problem is with the delay timing, and he has sent
me some info on how to change the delay timing which I haven't tried
yet. If I get it to work, I'll post the steps. You can download a demo
of MidiQuest from their site.

If anyone gets a librarian working for the 101 under windows please post
the steps taken.

For Apple users, I believe Sound Diver works.

Cheers, Karl May



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From: CZsynth@yahoogroups .com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf
Of steve_the_composer
Sent: Thursday, 15 October 2009 12:20 PM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: sysex editor

Took a quick look in the sysex manual; no checksum that I could see.
(Did I missed it?)

I used the equivalent of "debug" to mine the CZ-5000 seqeuncer memory
dump format. Obviously it is not a very high level tool, but it really
depends what someone wants to do. It was sufficient to change values,
see the results, and map the dump and internal memory structure. It even
yielded options that could not be entered through the CZ interface.

For example, it is possible to set the number of internal voices to zero
on a track-by-track basis and have the sequencer tracks play the note
data out solely through the CZ-5000 midi port. 

If someone has the time and ability to write a fully developed CZ patch
editor, I'd take some time to test it.

Back to the original question: what are you wanting to do?

--Steve

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups .com <mailto:CZsynth% 40yahoogroups. com> , Lee
Borrell <templarser@ ...> wrote:
>
> In theory- you can edit a CZ file with MIDI-ox but it is perhaps not
the recommended route - I can't recall if CZ's operate a checksum - but
if they did it means calculating it manually - and even if they do not -
then editing individual bytes is possible - but it means referring to
the byte map ( I have it online but the site seems to be down for some
reason) - this is why Charles and myself have been trying to find a way
to do an editor.
>

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