i believe they all have similar rom dumps , the editor i have to edit the cz101 will work on a cz1000 too along with the cz101 and i think the cz1 the cz101 i have won't permit "real time" handling , cause every time a parameter is changed it re signals a new note out. i haven't got all to far with my cz101 editor for the sysex message because its difficult to mix my graphics coding with the data coding (gui with the internal ) but would be more than interested in helping with the parts you can't undersatnd this sounds like a great project , i hope to keep alive . so you want to use a behringer to control the sysex of the cz101 , or do you want to program a pc program with sliders and knobs to control the sounds of the cz101 etc etc.? charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "-" <jdcx64@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: [CZsynth] Realtime synth parameters control with faders like BCF2000 / BCR2000 > ************************************************** > Please give me some documentation help (CPU docs/assembler/disassembler, a ROM dump of the CZ-1 would be great but I can get it myself) and I'll make a software patch for the CZ-1 to receive realtime CC codes for every synth parameter and publicly release it as a few byte changes to its Eprom firmware, or as a few documented assembly code lines for the people who want to get more into it. > ************************************************** > > The long version: > > This is a discussion that has been repeated several times but although we have talked about it we have done nothing nothing to fix it yet. > > Like the difference between playing with a stuffed dog and a live one, synths are a lot more fun if they can edited in realtime with knobs or faders. That is the only reason I use my JX8P+PG800 a lot more than I use my CZ-1. The CZ-1, just some software running on a slow 8 bit CPU, sounds more interesting to me than the JX-8P with its 8 expensive and hard to replace filter chips, but there's something it can't do: with other synts I use a cotton swab to keep one key pressed and have incredible fun playing that single note all night, moving from places like a rave party in an alien space ship, the insides of the Krakatoa, a bee hive, etc. > > I have a BCF2000 thing (8 good quality motorized faders and 8 encoder knobs MIDI controller), a bargain for 100USD. Programming it is easy but the problem with using anything like it with the CZs is that CZs don't accept individual CC messages for changing most synth parameters. This could be changed via a software upgrade on a spare 4USD Eprom. If the Eprom is socketed, replacing it with a new one is something anyone could do in a couple of minutes, if not, good soldering skills are required but any experienced repairman could unsolder the chip and solder a socket in its position for painless upgrades. > > Assembly language / embedded programming is (still) my job and giving a fix to the CZ software would be only fun for me. I would do it immediately but I don't have the patience to find the documentation for the CPU in the CZ and the corresponding assembler / disassembler software. I briefly searched for them online but I couldn't find them. > > ************************************************** > Please give me some documentation help (CPU docs/assembler/disassembler, a ROM dump of the CZ-1 would be great but I can get it myself) and I'll make a software patch for the CZ-1 to receive realtime CC codes for every synth parameter and publicly release it as a few byte changes to its Eprom firmware, or as a few documented assembly code lines for the people who want to get more into it. > ************************************************** > > Joaquim > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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Re: [CZsynth] Realtime synth parameters control with faders like BCF2000 / BCR2000
2009-11-14 by charlie from PARRY
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