without the handshaking and the moveing of blocks it be an ease to program memory is stored in block form and handshaking is a communication protocol i got mine to work a couple times to but never repeativily but i will admit the fz has one of the most unique sys ex i've seen difficult and demanding was there two forms of it ?????? was there ,one way communication , and handshaking? or is this only offered in other devices? charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Internal Memory Backup Battery & EZ-CZ Cartridge Yes - I had considered writing something for the Commodore since I now have a disk system - but the handshaking of blocks seems intimidating - I managed to get one file to the PC using one of the programs online - but I have since been unable to redo this - I am not sure what I did to get it to work - none of the programs seem to be easy to use. The FZ seems to have the most complex SYSx setup that I have seen - even worse than the CZ - it's own internal drive is not THAT reliable - I have on watch a CD and data transer cable for the hi speed link on ebay- but I'd prefer to get it to work with the MIDI connection. --- On Fri, 26/11/10, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote: From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Internal Memory Backup Battery & EZ-CZ Cartridge To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 26 November, 2010, 19:08 lee do you need a pc fz1 transfer tool? not mac just pc ? i use one i forgot how much your site is based upon synthesizers , its good , i like the website you made waait until you see my next programming project waaiiittt ! charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: Internal Memory Backup Battery & EZ-CZ Cartridge I am looking for the same thing for the FZ1 - I've tried all the ones online I can find and nothing works. I believe I am using MIDI-ox for CZ transfers- this requires two instances of MIDI-ox- one set to send SYSx and one to receive. The details of how to do this are at : http://templarseries.atspace.com/cz.html under "defeating handshaking". Set the DEVICES on MIDIox to reflect which data is incoming/outgoing. The codes to send from the SEND screen are there - and the LOAD screen should be set to "get manual dump". The SEND screen prompts the CZ to give up data - which is picked up at the manual dump screen -it can then be saved to PC. If only I could do the same thing with the FZ1!!! LEE --- On Tue, 23/11/10, Karl H. May <kmay@...> wrote: From: Karl H. May <kmay@...> Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: Internal Memory Backup Battery & EZ-CZ Cartridge To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 23 November, 2010, 1:09 Charlie, Have you got a cz101 editor/librarian that works on a Win PC and does bulk loads and dumps? I haven't come across anything yet that I can make work. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Karl ________________________________ From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of charlie midi gfa Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:48 AM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Internal Memory Backup Battery & EZ-CZ Cartridge has anybody ever just thought to back up the memory onto a single diskette? heck a single 1.44 floppy can hold about 400 tones for a cz then you never loose them enables user to build a library of "unique " or personal voices and saves the earth from useless old batteries going to the dump i have never had batteries in my cz and never lost the voices in the internal memory only after a month of un use that the machine dispurses of meory contents so if u can go a month then you can still have your patches save money , save batteries save time , save your nice custom voices get a patch editor ,save tones on disk charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "fulfil_objective" <robot@... <mailto:robot%40kasploosh.com> > To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:42 PM Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Internal Memory Backup Battery & EZ-CZ Cartridge > Hi Steve, > > Feel free to not use rechargeable batteries. Everybody can do whatever they want. Personally, I don't like sending buckets of single-use batteries to the waste facility, and I do like running things off batteries sometimes. > > Your concerns also don't really relate to the OP's question. He just wants to make sure he doesn't lose his patches while at a gig. That could be easily accomplished by good rechargeable batteries, the 9V mod, or a couple of sets on single-use D batteries. > > As for your EZ/CZ cartridge, things like that take the barest trickle of energy to keep the RAM from losing its data. In that use scenario, an alkaline battery makes sense for the reasons you stated. An even better solution for you would be to store those sounds on your PC, and not on a cartridge. Then take those batteries out of that cartridge before storing it! If you haven't had gear ruined by being stored with the batteries in it, then you've dodged a bullet. > > The chemistry of rechargeables is getting better every year, it seems to me. One of the big downsides of rechargeables is their initial cost. Good ones can seem quite expensive. You have to think of rechargeables as an investment, and even then they still seem expensive. > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> , "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote: > > > > Just a thought: > > > > I have not used rechargeable batteries (AA/AAA) in synth gear, however, I do have some experience with them in other things. If my experience is typical, I do not recommend rechargeable batteries for two reasosns: (1) they do not last as long as conventional batteries and (2) they discharge when not in use. > > > > I have had batteries in an unused EZ-CZ catridge that retained their charge for well over 10 years. In my experience, the energy in rechargeable batteries dissipates within weeks or months. > > > > Steve > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> , "fulfil_objective" <robot@> wrote: > > > > > > Nate, > > > > > > People have mentioned the 9V mod, but my vote is for a set of rechargeable batteries. I do that with my CZ-101. It has the advantage of keeping you on, even if you get accidentally unplugged for a second. But for this option, you would have to have a battery charger. > > > > > > I believe the batteries should be D size, not C as someone else stated. > > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> , Rotundo Sealeg <rotundosealeg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey guys. I bet this question has been asked before... but whenever I unplug my CZ-1000 from the wall, I run the risk of all of the internal sounds I've programmed being erased, along with the pitch wheel resetting itself to super and sub-sonic range, and the instrument tuning going off. Is there a battery I can change somewhere in this synth?! Does anybody know where it is? My band is going into a series of punk rock Christmas shows this December, and I would love to not worry about showing up to the show with an empty memory bank. > > > > > > > > Also, I have a EZ-CZ memory cartridge and it will only access two of the memory banks now. It's like that top tiny little switch isn't doing its job. Has this happened to anybody? Any fixes? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > Nate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! 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Re: [CZsynth] Re: Internal Memory Backup Battery & EZ-CZ Cartridge
2010-11-29 by charlie midi gfa
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