Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

You know Charles, this is just my opinion (I don't speak for the group in
any way), but I don't think you should post messages to the whole group
boasting about the information you've figured out if you're not willing to
freely share that information within the group . . . I personally think it
runs contrary the whole idea of what these groups are about.

There has been a ton of information and knowledge shared here, and as I've
found most it by searching through and reading all the old messages I've
never once seen someone "demand" anything in exchange for their knowledge
and their help. Just look at all the information and knowledge someone like
"cosmo" has shared both in this group and on his website (which he has put
up again just to keep sharing his resources, for free, with all those
interested). And there are so many more like him in this group that are
constantly openly sharing their knowledge.

I certainly don't think that there would be anything wrong with you *
requesting* sounds or original midi files that other users have made (and a
quick look a the files section in this group will quickly give you an idea
of how generous everyone is with sharing what they have to contribute), but
to withhold a piece of information that could be very helpful to the other
users (especially after going through the effort of letting the group know
that you've figured out that specific piece of information in a message),
just seems, to me at least, contrary to everything that's going on here.

Let's face it, the group member who has requested this information from you,
so they can get the communication running between their synth and computer,
might be very new to this synth, or to synths in general, and might not yet
at this point have any personally generated patches, or midi files to share.
This kind of member who probably needs your help even more than a member who
*could *supply you with their own sounds and midi files, as those members
would have a better shot at working this information out for themselves.

Anyhow, again this is just my opinion. I am still quite new to the CASIO
synths (and all real vintage hardware synths to be honest), and the
information freely shared within this group has made it possible for me to
learn in a short time what could have taken me years to figure out on my
own. If I had had to trade some information or patch files for every bit of
that information I've found here I'd have been screwed because I'm new to
this and don't yet have any info I've figured out on my own to share with
the group - but hopefully I will be able to help out another member down the
road when I've gained more experience (thanks largely to this group) and am
then in a position to happily share it within the group that helped me so
much.

That's just how I see it.
James




On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:12 AM, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...
> wrote:

>
>
> ok , i'll make you a deal,,,,,since i do alot of this coding and figurering
> out these communications
> i will demand a trade... alot of my interest are in midi
>
> send me some of the sounds you made
> or
> send me an original midi file or two you have made
>
> i can't waste time cause its all dedicated to programming my midi programs
> anybody want to help code some cool toys to aid with music compostion?
>
>
> charles
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karl H. May" <kmay@...>
> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 9:08 PM
> Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx file
> to the Casio VZ1
>
> > Charles,
> >
> > If you are able to, please give me the sysex strings that work for you
> > as requested.
> >
> > Many thanks, Karl May
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of charlie midi gfa
> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 11:05 AM
> > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > file to the Casio VZ1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > i can maybe help
> >
> > well the vz1 is different than the cz101 thats foir certain
> >
> > i know after you do your homework you'll be as proud as i am
> > after learning yourself the cz sysex
> >
> > get back to me if u still haven't got it yet 00kk?
> > hint:
> > ,talk to it the way it talks to you!
> >
> > knowledge is feirce!
> >
> > i still haven't got the fx10m down
> > but
> > i know i have the cz101 format down
> > i can only speculate the vz1 is similar to the fz10m
> >
> > me i use in a loop
> > the single voice dump command
> >
> > i thinnk it only can dump one voice at a time
> >
> > charles
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karl H. May" <kmay@...
> > <mailto:kmay%40brayecragg.com.au> >
> > To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:23 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > file
> > to the Casio VZ1
> >
> > > Hi Charles,
> > >
> > > Can you give me a full sysex string you use to dump a single sound to
> > > your Atari and indicate which patch number ( 1-16 ) the string is
> > > requesting?
> > >
> > > Do you know whether the cz101 will dump and load whole banks at once,
> > or
> > > only single sounds? I have seen conflicting comments on this issue. If
> > > it will dump the whole bank, can you give me the string to command it
> > to
> > > do this?
> > >
> > > Many thanks, Karl May
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of charlie midi gfa
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 9:18 AM
> > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > > file to the Casio VZ1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > you can just send the whole handshaking string as one command ,
> > > instead of waiting for the responce (s) from the cz ,,
> > >
> > > charles
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Karl H. May" <kmay@...
> > <mailto:kmay%40brayecragg.com.au>
> > > <mailto:kmay%40brayecragg.com.au> >
> > > To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:47 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > > file
> > > to the Casio VZ1
> > >
> > > > Thanks Lee. When I ask the cz101 to dump it's memory it responds
> > with
> > > > the sysex string FO 44 00 00 70 30 F7. What do I do in response to
> > > that?
> > > > Many thanks, Karl May
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Lee Borrell
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 1:28 AM
> > > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive
> > syx
> > > > file to the Casio VZ1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My site appears to be back online:
> > > > http://templarseries.atspace.com/cz.html
> > > > The details are in CZinfo and manual and DEFEATING HANDSHAKING links
> > -
> > > > those details I have used with the 101 and 230s and they do work -
> > it
> > > is
> > > > just a matter of getting your head around it.As was said here - if
> > > there
> > > > is a dump from keyboard protocol - use that - if not (as with the
> > > CZ101)
> > > > then you have to prompt the keyboard from the MIDI in socket by
> > > sending
> > > > a "Send SYSx" code - and wait for the reception from the midi
> > out.With
> > > > MIDI ox I use TWO instances of the program at once - first set up
> > one
> > > > version to ONLY receieve on from the OUT socket of the keyboard and
> > > set
> > > > it up ready to get SYSX manually.
> > > > Use the other version to ONLY transmit (in the devices dialogue) and
> > > > send the prompt from this instance of the program,and the other
> > > instance
> > > > will pick up the SYSx code from the 101. From there,dump it as a
> > SYSx
> > > > file to the PC and from then on you can send it back to the keyboard
> > > > with no further messing about - it will accept the SYSx without any
> > > > handshaking. Hope that helps.
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 30/5/11, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...
> > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net>
> > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net>
> > > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...
> > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net>
> > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net>
> > > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net> >
> > > > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > > file
> > > > to the Casio VZ1
> > > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Date: Monday, 30 May, 2011, 16:00
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your setup will be based on (1) your internal VZ settings and (2)
> > your
> > > > midi connections between the VZ and your PC. I believe that once you
> > > > have those set up correctly, you just go into sysex mode in midi-ox
> > > and
> > > > trigger the bulk dump from the VZ itself. I suppose you could
> > trigger
> > > > the dumps from midi-ox by inputting the correct sysex command, but
> > (1)
> > > > that's more work and (2) it would depend on your internal VZ
> > settings.
> > > >
> > > > Oh. You asked about the cz-101. Silly me; I saw that the thread was
> > > > about the VZ!!!
> > > >
> > > > Never Mind.
> > > >
> > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > > "Karl H. May" <kmay@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Can someone please upload the midi ox settings to save and load
> > > cz101
> > > >
> > > > > sounds. Thanks, Karl May
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > >
> > > > > Of cwjall
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:30 PM
> > > >
> > > > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Subject: [CZsynth] Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > file
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > the Casio VZ1
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have just uploaded a guide on how to transmit and receive syx
> > file
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > > your VZ-1 using Midiox. These are my settings. It works great for
> > > me!
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The file is in the "VZ - DOCs" folder.
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > > If it helps just let me know.
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