Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

i can say with certainty , if people keep reposting about the same issue
its not clearily my fault they don't understand the sysex.

i find this chatter to be prominant in most groups ,, more talk no action
,so thats what i do now   ...

please don't attack ,me personally
i can say it is possible and it is very simple once understanding how things
work

charles


----- Original Message -----
From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx file
to the Casio VZ1


> You know Charles, this is just my opinion (I don't speak for the group in
> any way), but I don't think you should post messages to the whole group
> boasting about the information you've figured out if you're not willing to
> freely share that information within the group . . . I personally think it
> runs contrary the whole idea of what these groups are about.
>
> There has been a ton of information and knowledge shared here, and as I've
> found most it by searching through and reading all the old messages I've
> never once seen someone "demand" anything in exchange for their knowledge
> and their help. Just look at all the information and knowledge someone
like
> "cosmo" has shared both in this group and on his website (which he has put
> up again just to keep sharing his resources, for free, with all those
> interested). And there are so many more like him in this group that are
> constantly openly sharing their knowledge.
>
> I certainly don't think that there would be anything wrong with you *
> requesting* sounds or original midi files that other users have made (and
a
> quick look a the files section in this group will quickly give you an idea
> of how generous everyone is with sharing what they have to contribute),
but
> to withhold a piece of information that could be very helpful to the other
> users (especially after going through the effort of letting the group know
> that you've figured out that specific piece of information in a message),
> just seems, to me at least, contrary to everything that's going on here.
>
> Let's face it, the group member who has requested this information from
you,
> so they can get the communication running between their synth and
computer,
> might be very new to this synth, or to synths in general, and might not
yet
> at this point have any personally generated patches, or midi files to
share.
> This kind of member who probably needs your help even more than a member
who
> *could *supply you with their own sounds and midi files, as those members
> would have a better shot at working this information out for themselves.
>
> Anyhow, again this is just my opinion. I am still quite new to the CASIO
> synths (and all real vintage hardware synths to be honest), and the
> information freely shared within this group has made it possible for me to
> learn in a short time what could have taken me years to figure out on my
> own. If I had had to trade some information or patch files for every bit
of
> that information I've found here I'd have been screwed because I'm new to
> this and don't yet have any info I've figured out on my own to share with
> the group - but hopefully I will be able to help out another member down
the
> road when I've gained more experience (thanks largely to this group) and
am
> then in a position to happily share it within the group that helped me so
> much.
>
> That's just how I see it.
> James
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:12 AM, charlie midi gfa
<charles.copp@...
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > ok , i'll make you a deal,,,,,since i do alot of this coding and
figurering
> > out these communications
> > i will demand a trade... alot of my interest are in midi
> >
> > send me some of the sounds you made
> > or
> > send me an original midi file or two you have made
> >
> > i can't waste time cause its all dedicated to programming my midi
programs
> > anybody want to help code some cool toys to aid with music compostion?
> >
> >
> > charles
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karl H. May" <kmay@...>
> > To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 9:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
file
> > to the Casio VZ1
> >
> > > Charles,
> > >
> > > If you are able to, please give me the sysex strings that work for you
> > > as requested.
> > >
> > > Many thanks, Karl May
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> > > Of charlie midi gfa
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 11:05 AM
> > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > > file to the Casio VZ1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > i can maybe help
> > >
> > > well the vz1 is different than the cz101 thats foir certain
> > >
> > > i know after you do your homework you'll be as proud as i am
> > > after learning yourself the cz sysex
> > >
> > > get back to me if u still haven't got it yet 00kk?
> > > hint:
> > > ,talk to it the way it talks to you!
> > >
> > > knowledge is feirce!
> > >
> > > i still haven't got the fx10m down
> > > but
> > > i know i have the cz101 format down
> > > i can only speculate the vz1 is similar to the fz10m
> > >
> > > me i use in a loop
> > > the single voice dump command
> > >
> > > i thinnk it only can dump one voice at a time
> > >
> > > charles
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Karl H. May" <kmay@...
> > > <mailto:kmay%40brayecragg.com.au> >
> > > To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:23 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > > file
> > > to the Casio VZ1
> > >
> > > > Hi Charles,
> > > >
> > > > Can you give me a full sysex string you use to dump a single sound
to
> > > > your Atari and indicate which patch number ( 1-16 ) the string is
> > > > requesting?
> > > >
> > > > Do you know whether the cz101 will dump and load whole banks at
once,
> > > or
> > > > only single sounds? I have seen conflicting comments on this issue.
If
> > > > it will dump the whole bank, can you give me the string to command
it
> > > to
> > > > do this?
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks, Karl May
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of charlie midi gfa
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 9:18 AM
> > > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive
syx
> > > > file to the Casio VZ1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > you can just send the whole handshaking string as one command ,
> > > > instead of waiting for the responce (s) from the cz ,,
> > > >
> > > > charles
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Karl H. May" <kmay@...
> > > <mailto:kmay%40brayecragg.com.au>
> > > > <mailto:kmay%40brayecragg.com.au> >
> > > > To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:47 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive
syx
> > > > file
> > > > to the Casio VZ1
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Lee. When I ask the cz101 to dump it's memory it responds
> > > with
> > > > > the sysex string FO 44 00 00 70 30 F7. What do I do in response to
> > > > that?
> > > > > Many thanks, Karl May
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Lee Borrell
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 1:28 AM
> > > > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive
> > > syx
> > > > > file to the Casio VZ1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My site appears to be back online:
> > > > > http://templarseries.atspace.com/cz.html
> > > > > The details are in CZinfo and manual and DEFEATING HANDSHAKING
links
> > > -
> > > > > those details I have used with the 101 and 230s and they do work -
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > > just a matter of getting your head around it.As was said here - if
> > > > there
> > > > > is a dump from keyboard protocol - use that - if not (as with the
> > > > CZ101)
> > > > > then you have to prompt the keyboard from the MIDI in socket by
> > > > sending
> > > > > a "Send SYSx" code - and wait for the reception from the midi
> > > out.With
> > > > > MIDI ox I use TWO instances of the program at once - first set up
> > > one
> > > > > version to ONLY receieve on from the OUT socket of the keyboard
and
> > > > set
> > > > > it up ready to get SYSX manually.
> > > > > Use the other version to ONLY transmit (in the devices dialogue)
and
> > > > > send the prompt from this instance of the program,and the other
> > > > instance
> > > > > will pick up the SYSx code from the 101. From there,dump it as a
> > > SYSx
> > > > > file to the PC and from then on you can send it back to the
keyboard
> > > > > with no further messing about - it will accept the SYSx without
any
> > > > > handshaking. Hope that helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Mon, 30/5/11, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...
> > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net>
> > > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net>
> > > > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...
> > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net>
> > > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net>
> > > > > <mailto:smw-mail%40prodigy.net> >
> > > > > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > > > file
> > > > > to the Casio VZ1
> > > > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Date: Monday, 30 May, 2011, 16:00
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your setup will be based on (1) your internal VZ settings and (2)
> > > your
> > > > > midi connections between the VZ and your PC. I believe that once
you
> > > > > have those set up correctly, you just go into sysex mode in
midi-ox
> > > > and
> > > > > trigger the bulk dump from the VZ itself. I suppose you could
> > > trigger
> > > > > the dumps from midi-ox by inputting the correct sysex command, but
> > > (1)
> > > > > that's more work and (2) it would depend on your internal VZ
> > > settings.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh. You asked about the cz-101. Silly me; I saw that the thread
was
> > > > > about the VZ!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Never Mind.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > > > "Karl H. May" <kmay@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can someone please upload the midi ox settings to save and load
> > > > cz101
> > > > >
> > > > > > sounds. Thanks, Karl May
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > >
> > > > > > Of cwjall
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2011 11:30 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:CZsynth%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [CZsynth] Midiox settings to transmit and receive syx
> > > file
> > > > to
> > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have just uploaded a guide on how to transmit and receive syx
> > > file
> > > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > your VZ-1 using Midiox. These are my settings. It works great
for
> > > > me!
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The file is in the "VZ - DOCs" folder.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If it helps just let me know.
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