Thanks JPS, As I got further and further into investigating why I could get no After Touch modulation, once I'd found the After Touch settings and readjusted them to non-zero levels, it was ultimately the need to have the MODULATION button in the TOTAL CONTROL section *ON* that was eluding me. What I found most interesting about your post though was your comment about the unnatural amount of pressure needed to trigger the After Touch on your board, because I have found the same thing now that I've actually got it working. Is this the way all the CZ-1 boards are, or is this the result of much use, breakdown and age, and perhaps something that could be serviced to have more of a natural responsiveness again? Cheers, James On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:34 AM, jpshea <webform@...> wrote: > > > > > Both the Modulation Wheel and Keyboard Aftertouch are available as mod > sources for the Vibrato LFO. > > In the EFFECT section, see the "M.WHEEL / AFTER TOUCH" button. Set > Aftertouch to max, then press down (hard) on the key. > > The "MODU-LATION" button in the TOTAL CONTROL section needs to be on. > > See p. 9 of the Operation Manual. After touch is discussed in detail on p. > 18. > > I found that on my keyboard, I had to press really hard, and this wasn't > generally conducive to playing style. > > A well programmed VIBRATO Delay was much better. In fact it is amazing that > so many VSTI's don't implement this simple, but critical feature. > > Don't forget that you still have plenty of envelope steps up your sleeve > *after* the note off event (i.e. after the Sustain point), so you can still > do things like echo type effects, swells or clicks with the DCA, DCF etc. > > Regards, > JPS > > ps: CZ-1 spotters may be interested in having a listen here: > > http://music.thejesuscleaver.com > > plenty of CZ-1 bells, bass, and strings in there! > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "wjamesmeagher" <w.james.meagher@...> > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I've had my CZ1 (my first "real" synth) for a few weeks now and have > > managed (with the user manual and reading a lot of previous posts made > > here) to figure out its PD programming, and also how to transfer SysEx > > to and from my computer. > > I am however a bit stumped regarding the "aftertouch" feature. At first > > I assumed that the aftertouch on my CZ1 simply wasn't working as varying > > the pressure on the keys while holding them down sonically seems to have > > zero effect no matter what tone I'm using. Then I thought I'd actually > > record the MIDI info coming from the CZ into Logic while I played a few > > notes and varied the pressure - sure enough it seems to be sending a > > fairly steady stream of Channel Pressure messages which I assume are > > coming from the aftertouch function of the keyboard . . . but still no > > noticeable effect on the sound no matter what tone I'm applying it to. > > I can't find anything in the Operation Manual regarding any settings or > > functionality of the aftertouch so at this point I'm just scratching my > > head. I seem to remember reading somewhere some time ago that the > > aftertouch only affects Vibrato on the CZ1, but even when playing with > > the Vibrato settings on various tones I can't seem to hear anything > > happening as a result of the aftertouch pressure applied. > > Here's an image of MIDI info coming from the keyboard into Logic as I > > hold down one key and vary the pressure: > > [CZ1 aftertouch MIDI info in Logic] > > Any ideas what I'm missing here? I'm sure it's probably something > > ridiculously obvious! > > Cheers,James > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > -- C'est La Guerre Moving Pictures Inc. 364 Home Street Winnipeg, Manitoba R3G 1X4 (204) 918 9317 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ1 aftertouch confusion
2011-06-11 by james meagher
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