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Re: [CZsynth] Re: Casio XW-P1 virtual analog...

2012-01-24 by Daniel Forró

I'd suppose 16 bit user samples can be imported from SD card. If the  
only way would be to record samples through 10 bit ADC, how we could  
get announced 16 bit resolution?

Daniel Forro

On Jan 24, 2012, at 12:09 PM, jammie wrote:

> when asked about samples and adding your own
>
> the synth guy said the only way to get samples of user samples was  
> through the external input which is 10bits so your user samples  
> will be only 10bits and only 10 locations
>
> the internal samples are 16bit but you cant add to those so they  
> are rom samples
>
> user ones are 10bits as thats the only way to get them into the  
> machine
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Daniel Forró
>   To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:04 AM
>   Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Casio XW-P1 virtual analog...
>
>
>
>   Exactly, 10 bit resolution is for external audio input. Sampler uses
>   16 bit, and non standard 42 kHz SR.
>
>   Daniel Forro
>
>   On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Wilson Zorn wrote:
>
>> Referring to http://www.casio-intl.com/file/news/pdf/XWseries/
>> 20120119_XW_Specifications.pdf
>> , I THINK that it indicates that the "quantization" is 16 bits  
>> which I
>> take as the stored wave bits. The 10 bits refers to the A/D
>> converter, the way I read this.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:13 PM, jammie
>> <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>>> plenty of storage but if you want todo big multisamples then 10
>>> slots is rubbish
>>>
>>> there is plenty of external storage so i think this would be
>>> better with 1 shot samples like the fz1 but it depends on the
>>> playback engine
>>>
>>> also i noticed on the specs it only sample in at 10bits thats crazy
>>>
>>> comming from the first manufacturer to bring 16bit samplers to the
>>> market
>>>
>>> im all for low bit sampling but 10bits is a wierd format and no
>>> editor that i know of has the ability to do 10bit samples
>>>
>>> they should of done it 8bits at least you would be able todo that
>>> in an editor
>>>
>>> its good price tho and it sounded good it has plenty of pallete
>>> but if it had biggewr sample internal memory
>>>
>>> would of been better plus have the cz101 and vz1 synthesis built
>>> in in software as the vsti does but with sysex implimentation of
>>> the old synths and they would of took the synth community by storm
>>>
>>> pd synthesis with pcm like the sy99 and sy77 at that price bracket
>>> would of been amazing and that would sell like hot cakes
>>>
>>> my sy99 i can use all the dz7 library and put samples in 60 of
>>> them into memory and they are in flash memory so are there when
>>> you switch on and you can fm the carrier with the pcm
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Wilson Zorn
>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Casio XW-P1 virtual analog...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree it doesn't look likely, but will still hope! :) I'm hoping
>>> more there's some technical wizardry that can be done to
>>> interpret the
>>> SysEx into the format that the new synth line is using effectively
>>> (given they had to do something similar to get the old sounds
>>> into the
>>> new boxes).
>>>
>>> Re the sampler, yeah, it's limited. I would imagine the memory
>>> can be
>>> expanded, though. What bugs me is they didn't put the hex technology
>>> and drawbars into the sampler and just make the sampler a
>>> bigger/better version of the performance one, as it would be
>>> handy to
>>> have both in one. I already know I'll go for the performance box (if
>>> it lives up to my expectations on trying it out, that is).
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:20 PM, jammie
>>> <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>>>> i dont think so and the sample storage is rubbish 10 user
>>> samples mad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Wilson Zorn
>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:05 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Casio XW-P1 virtual analog...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I'm hoping is some way to port old CZ sounds. I have a
>>> number of
>>>> custom CZ sounds I've made - like I'm sure most if not
>>> virtually all
>>>> on this list have - and would love to be able to load onto one of
>>>> these synths. I realize the sample unit would do it in terms
>>> of an
>>>> actual sample, naturally, but I'd hope for something that
>>> could take
>>>> the SysEx and (at least reasonably) faithfully rebuild/
>>> recreate on the
>>>> unit.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Jan Hudak
>>> <jahumaster@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> NAMM2012 update ;-D
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/new-year-new-era-new-
>>> professional-synths-from-casio/147370
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: José Ángel Morente <msxjam@...>
>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:20 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Casio XW-P1 virtual analog...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.casio-intl.com/file/news/pdf/XWseries/
>>> 20120119_XW_Specifications.pdf
>>>>>
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