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Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m

2012-10-21 by Jason Adkins

You certainly seem to be doing some interesting stuff Jammie.
I used to have briefly a DSM1,sorry I hated it nowhere near as good as  
the DSS-1 no delay's and no analogue filters as standard without  
f**king about with it (I''m no circuit bender sadly) sorry I love the  
digital wave stuff but I'm still a tart when it comes to analogue  
filters and the floppy on the DSM1 was a c**t. no wonder everybody and  
his wife bought an Akai.

I think I may have Turbosynth.... also you can do some interesting  
stuff with Steinberg Avalon (Atari again).

Sorry for truncated response my football team Norwich are on match of  
the day in a moment which I want to watch, they beat Arsenal for the  
first time at Carrow Road in 28 years today.

J














On 20 Oct 2012, at 22:38, jammie wrote:

> i have loads of 8bit waves for the prophet vs
>
> we are working on new pcm cards for the wavestation so in the near  
> future it will be possible to write new pcm data to the pcm card
>
> plus they are going to be 2-4mb switched in 512k banks
>
> get a dsm1 they are great same additive engine as the dss1 and it  
> has 4 multitimbral so doing prophet vs sounds is easy
>
> but with samples so its more like a jd800/jd990 but with analog  
> filters
>
> the dsm1 has 16 of the dss1 chips res is tied to ground but easy to  
> cut a trace add a 100ohm resister for current limiting and adding a  
> pot  to a 5v source this willgive good res but not self osc becuase  
> you need 7v for that
>
> i used on one of my dsm1 machines with a doepfer midi to cv  
> controller you get 16 midi cv outputs that can be set up to any midi  
> cc control they are 0-5 v cv,s
>
> the emax uses the same type of system but you have 32 partials but  
> you also get to do them on a table ppg style
>
> you choose various additive waveforms on this table then you set  
> volume envelopes for each cycle in the table and pitch envelopes and  
> the you interpolate from one single cycle to the other creating a  
> spectral variating waveform like as if you were scanning the ppg  
> wavetables
>
> the emax then creates this as a multisample and then you loop it or  
> what ever to get good no clicking loops of this file you need to use  
> the same single cycle additive waveform
>
> for slot one and the end slot
>
> the digidesign designed a software program that copied this and it  
> could do it on a mac screen rather than use the tiny lcd
>
> it was called softsynth both for mac and atari
>
> then they did a better version called turbo synth both mac and atari
>
> i used to use it on the mirage as it did great wavetables like this  
> and made it easy for looping
>
> i create transwaves the same way for ensoniqs as they can sweep them  
> like the ppg
>
> i have done all the ppg
>
> the uwaveand wave which has 64 of them which also include the ppg  
> but they sound different becuase the uwave and xt use half cycle  
> waves then they compute the other half as a mirror image
>
> which is impossible to do with additive synthesis
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Jason Adkins
>  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:56 PM
>  Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>
>
>
>  Hi Jammie,
>
>  I have never used an Emax I think Francis Cote who post's on here has
>  an Emax or 2 so he'd be a good guy to talk to.
>  I'd love a DSS1 again but I havn't got the space now sadly (I used to
>  keep all my gear around a friends house at the time) those things are
>  f**king huge.
>  Can you do a similar trick with a wavestation/prophet VS?
>
>  J
>
>  On 20 Oct 2012, at 21:33, jammie wrote:
>
>> and single cycle waves are the way to go with theses samplers the k3
>> k5 k5000 ppg dss1 and the fz1 range all have additive sin synthesis
>>
>> but the neat trick on both the dss1 and the fz range is that you can
>> link mix the additive waves to create a moving wavetable
>>
>> a bit like the emax spectral synth generation
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: jammie
>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>
>>
>>
>> yes you can fit scsi its the card fitted to the fz20
>>
>> but you need a copy of the scsi floppy access software
>>
>> and charlie still needs to get a good working floppy drive
>>
>> the floppy emulator is cheaper than a replacement drive
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jason Adkins
>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>
>> I think the FZ1/10m/20m is worth the effort the synth section sounds
>> superb,my friend used to use that all the time,the only other synth/
>> sampler I have used which had the a similar function was the Korg
>> DSS-1 (just usiing a slider) although there are a few programs for
>> the
>> Atari which allow you to draw a waveform as does the Roland samplers
>> and the Fairlight of course.
>> I think a PPG and possibly the Kawai K5 could do additive drawing
>> using a slider too.
>> I know the FZ10m could be fitted with scsi because I saw one in a
>> studio in Islington London and I asked the engineer if I could have a
>> look around the back because he was loading sounds to it from a Jaz
>> drive.
>>
>> J
>>
>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 00:18, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>>
>>> im sure the technicians will love me $$$ ,
>>> and by now the prices of a
>>> shugart to scsi adaptor has sky rocketed.....
>>> so the raw image is it 1.68 Mb?
>>> please go on jammie , do you use some of this technology personally?
>>> i am interested adapting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> charles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jason Adkins" <jason_ralf808@...>
>>> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>
>>>
>>>> I don't agree,I think the FZ10m had a scsi option too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 19:43, jammie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> its the floppy emulator image software that does a raw image it
>>>>> cant
>>>>> be read by anything except the fz1/fz10/fz20
>>>>>
>>>>> there is no other programs that can write the floppy image back to
>>>>> the floppy becuase its a different speed
>>>>>
>>>>> only the fz20 had scsi and its useless with out the floppy as  
>>>>> its a
>>>>> floppy disk access program has to be loaded sop that the fz20 can
>>>>> use the scsi
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Jason Adkins
>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't there a PC program that will image FZ1/10m/20m floppies?
>>>>> Is your FZ10m fitted with SCSI?
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Oct 2012, at 00:11, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> so a little o.t.
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> anybody tell me what drive will work in a fz10m ,
>>>>>> (cross reference the matsushita ju-255 )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i can't find suitable drive or a indentical one to repair the
>>>>>> fz10m
>>>>>>
>>>>>> charles
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