Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Hiya,

I know what you mean,but the filters on my S5000 are not too bad.
I'm sure we have probably had this conversation before but if the  
DSM-1 had those facilities basically in the first place why did they  
release it as it was? It just doesn't make sense unless they didn't  
want to take sales away from the DSS-1?

J

On 21 Oct 2012, at 10:34, jammie wrote:

> yes but the akai are so clinical digital
>
> even though the dsm1 never had res it did still have analog filters  
> and they are warm
>
> i use the dsm1 mainly for pcm creation of samples for the t1 and  
> t3ex that i have i have 2 dsm1 1 which i have done the res  
> conversion and the external inputs so i can run my digital synths  
> through it
>
> AND ONE TOTALLY UNTOUCHED VERSION
>
> we are working on a usb and 16mb upgrade for it with a filter  
> upgrade board that will fit in the original pads in sockets this  
> will give us res but also we are doing the pole mixing like the  
> matrix12
>
> my spectral sound sets can be used on the fz1 ill do a bunch in fzf  
> format which you can dump to the synth via midi let me know what  
> waveshapes you want
>
> i have the full single cycle waves of each wavetable of the ppg series
>
> same for the uwave and the uwavext
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> i have the 128 wavetable 1/2 of the waldorfq
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> the waves tables of the esq1 and the vfx range
>
> the prophet vs including my user waves
>
> the kawai k3 k1/k4/
>
> and lots of analog waves sampled from analog synths
>
> by layering them in the fz1 range you can get 4 samples layered with  
> 2 note poly to do d50 or prophet vs type patches
>
> and you can do 8 layer unison detuned type sounds using 8 layers by  
> layering them and detuning them with a sub osc being 2 octaves lower  
> you can get very fat sounds
>
> and i like the analog filter on the fz1 its digitally controlled but  
> the audio is pure analog same way the osc are controlled on the dco  
> of the roland series
>
> which are pure analog patch with digital clock stable tune control
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Jason Adkins
>  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 1:50 AM
>  Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>
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>
>  You certainly seem to be doing some interesting stuff Jammie.
>  I used to have briefly a DSM1,sorry I hated it nowhere near as good  
> as
>  the DSS-1 no delay's and no analogue filters as standard without
>  f**king about with it (I''m no circuit bender sadly) sorry I love the
>  digital wave stuff but I'm still a tart when it comes to analogue
>  filters and the floppy on the DSM1 was a c**t. no wonder everybody  
> and
>  his wife bought an Akai.
>
>  I think I may have Turbosynth.... also you can do some interesting
>  stuff with Steinberg Avalon (Atari again).
>
>  Sorry for truncated response my football team Norwich are on match of
>  the day in a moment which I want to watch, they beat Arsenal for the
>  first time at Carrow Road in 28 years today.
>
>  J
>
>  On 20 Oct 2012, at 22:38, jammie wrote:
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>> i have loads of 8bit waves for the prophet vs
>>
>> we are working on new pcm cards for the wavestation so in the near
>> future it will be possible to write new pcm data to the pcm card
>>
>> plus they are going to be 2-4mb switched in 512k banks
>>
>> get a dsm1 they are great same additive engine as the dss1 and it
>> has 4 multitimbral so doing prophet vs sounds is easy
>>
>> but with samples so its more like a jd800/jd990 but with analog
>> filters
>>
>> the dsm1 has 16 of the dss1 chips res is tied to ground but easy to
>> cut a trace add a 100ohm resister for current limiting and adding a
>> pot to a 5v source this willgive good res but not self osc becuase
>> you need 7v for that
>>
>> i used on one of my dsm1 machines with a doepfer midi to cv
>> controller you get 16 midi cv outputs that can be set up to any midi
>> cc control they are 0-5 v cv,s
>>
>> the emax uses the same type of system but you have 32 partials but
>> you also get to do them on a table ppg style
>>
>> you choose various additive waveforms on this table then you set
>> volume envelopes for each cycle in the table and pitch envelopes and
>> the you interpolate from one single cycle to the other creating a
>> spectral variating waveform like as if you were scanning the ppg
>> wavetables
>>
>> the emax then creates this as a multisample and then you loop it or
>> what ever to get good no clicking loops of this file you need to use
>> the same single cycle additive waveform
>>
>> for slot one and the end slot
>>
>> the digidesign designed a software program that copied this and it
>> could do it on a mac screen rather than use the tiny lcd
>>
>> it was called softsynth both for mac and atari
>>
>> then they did a better version called turbo synth both mac and atari
>>
>> i used to use it on the mirage as it did great wavetables like this
>> and made it easy for looping
>>
>> i create transwaves the same way for ensoniqs as they can sweep them
>> like the ppg
>>
>> i have done all the ppg
>>
>> the uwaveand wave which has 64 of them which also include the ppg
>> but they sound different becuase the uwave and xt use half cycle
>> waves then they compute the other half as a mirror image
>>
>> which is impossible to do with additive synthesis
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jason Adkins
>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
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>>
>> Hi Jammie,
>>
>> I have never used an Emax I think Francis Cote who post's on here has
>> an Emax or 2 so he'd be a good guy to talk to.
>> I'd love a DSS1 again but I havn't got the space now sadly (I used to
>> keep all my gear around a friends house at the time) those things are
>> f**king huge.
>> Can you do a similar trick with a wavestation/prophet VS?
>>
>> J
>>
>> On 20 Oct 2012, at 21:33, jammie wrote:
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>>> and single cycle waves are the way to go with theses samplers the k3
>>> k5 k5000 ppg dss1 and the fz1 range all have additive sin synthesis
>>>
>>> but the neat trick on both the dss1 and the fz range is that you can
>>> link mix the additive waves to create a moving wavetable
>>>
>>> a bit like the emax spectral synth generation
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: jammie
>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yes you can fit scsi its the card fitted to the fz20
>>>
>>> but you need a copy of the scsi floppy access software
>>>
>>> and charlie still needs to get a good working floppy drive
>>>
>>> the floppy emulator is cheaper than a replacement drive
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jason Adkins
>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>
>>> I think the FZ1/10m/20m is worth the effort the synth section sounds
>>> superb,my friend used to use that all the time,the only other synth/
>>> sampler I have used which had the a similar function was the Korg
>>> DSS-1 (just usiing a slider) although there are a few programs for
>>> the
>>> Atari which allow you to draw a waveform as does the Roland samplers
>>> and the Fairlight of course.
>>> I think a PPG and possibly the Kawai K5 could do additive drawing
>>> using a slider too.
>>> I know the FZ10m could be fitted with scsi because I saw one in a
>>> studio in Islington London and I asked the engineer if I could  
>>> have a
>>> look around the back because he was loading sounds to it from a Jaz
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 00:18, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>>>
>>>> im sure the technicians will love me $$$ ,
>>>> and by now the prices of a
>>>> shugart to scsi adaptor has sky rocketed.....
>>>> so the raw image is it 1.68 Mb?
>>>> please go on jammie , do you use some of this technology  
>>>> personally?
>>>> i am interested adapting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> charles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jason Adkins" <jason_ralf808@...>
>>>> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't agree,I think the FZ10m had a scsi option too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 19:43, jammie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> its the floppy emulator image software that does a raw image it
>>>>>> cant
>>>>>> be read by anything except the fz1/fz10/fz20
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there is no other programs that can write the floppy image back  
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the floppy becuase its a different speed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> only the fz20 had scsi and its useless with out the floppy as
>>>>>> its a
>>>>>> floppy disk access program has to be loaded sop that the fz20 can
>>>>>> use the scsi
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Jason Adkins
>>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:35 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't there a PC program that will image FZ1/10m/20m floppies?
>>>>>> Is your FZ10m fitted with SCSI?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2012, at 00:11, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so a little o.t.
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> anybody tell me what drive will work in a fz10m ,
>>>>>>> (cross reference the matsushita ju-255 )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i can't find suitable drive or a indentical one to repair the
>>>>>>> fz10m
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> charles
>>>>>>>
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