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Re: [CZsynth] Re: casio fz10m

2012-10-27 by Jason Adkins

What gets me about the bloody G5 dual 1.8mhz is that it has 8 dimm  
sockets and I have tried every combination with ram I know is working  
and still it doesn't boot and has the 3 flashing lights surely all 8  
can't have f**ked up?
Unless it is the two first ones that have to work, power supply  
problem maybe?

J

On 27 Oct 2012, at 09:18, jack wrote:

> i have a proper reflow oven the pcb goes on a conveyer timed  
> temperature controled
>
> its best used for surface mount boards and solder paste
>
> or boards that have been wave soldered which seem to have the most  
> problems with cold solder joints
>
> get an smd blow gun i use that for small smd work where i have to  
> remove the damaged smd components just heat up one side of the chip  
> at a time  letting the solder reflow
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Jason Adkins
>  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:29 PM
>  Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: casio fz10m
>
>
>
>  I take it you have done a similar thing yourself then Jammie,let me
>  guess some clients expensive synthesizer board?
>  I'd give it a go but knowing me I probably put in there as the same
>  for a ham and pineapple pizza and I don't really want to accidently
>  eat G5 powermac motherboard parts for dinner...... I would give it a
>  go but its just too much aggro stripping the thing down,its worth
>  bugger all anyway but if you have any suggestions that I could do  
> with
>  the board in place I'd be glad to hear them.
>
>  J
>
>  On 26 Oct 2012, at 22:53, jammie wrote:
>
>> thats what they do in a re flow oven
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jason Adkins
>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 10:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: casio fz10m
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> ;) You did well there I messed about with the internals of a floppy
>> once and I made a right pigs breakfast of it.
>>
>> Its funny you should mention the oven because I have a broken 1.8
>> dual
>> G5 Powermac and one of the solutions on the web is to put the
>> mainboard in an oven to slightly melt the solder around the ram
>> sockets which is the problem with it coz it doesn't recognise the
>> ram,
>> many a thing said in jest and all that.
>>
>> J
>>
>> On 24 Oct 2012, at 03:31, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>>
>>> no , took my head out of the oven
>>>
>>>
>>> but seriousilly
>>> painfully re-alligned the read head manually,
>>>
>>> stoked , it is regained strenght!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> charles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jason Adkins" <jason_ralf808@...>
>>> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: casio fz10m
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey glad to hear it Charles did you take your false teeth out of the
>>> disk drive?
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On 24 Oct 2012, at 02:34, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>>>
>>>> im bad for this too , but lets remmeber to address the originator
>>>> of the
>>>> thread and not the followers,,any side longed comments or items
>>>> should have
>>>> their own thread , else the group will look like crap...
>>>>
>>>> i did however manage to fix repair and re-install the original  
>>>> drive
>>>> for the
>>>> fz10m..so now i want to do disk trades..new thread!
>>>>
>>>> charles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jason Adkins" <jason_ralf808@...>
>>>> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:59 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: casio fz10m
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we are both in trouble I'm going to sit in the naughty
>>>> corner.
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Oct 2012, at 14:31, jammie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i was asked a question by a member even if its of topic i answered
>>>>> it
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: charles c
>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: casio fz10m
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you guys are off topic and what does this have to do with the
>>>>> original thread?
>>>>> charles]
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes the mono tribe is pure analog electronics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but descrete analog electronics is the way to go and easy to
>>>>>> repair
>>>>>> and get parts for but the use 4-5 times the amount of components
>>>>>> but they are matches better
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and provide superior sound
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Jason Adkins
>>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 3:47 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow Jammie,that was a thorough reply I'm not even going to try  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> reply or argue with that.
>>>>>> My favourite synth at the moment is a Korg Monotribe which I
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>> is a real analogue monosynth according to the manual it certainly
>>>>>> sounds like one in fact I love the thing and only cost me £139
>>>>>> new I
>>>>>> have owned Pro-1's sh101/mc202 transendent 2000 tb303 and  
>>>>>> moog's +
>>>>>> others and this is equally nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21 Oct 2012, at 16:09, jammie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it was becuase every thing went digital
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the dsm1 was used for the pcm content for the m1 and t series  
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> 01w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> they were pure digital machines with no res filter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the dz7 was to blame for most synths discarding analog filters
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ensoniq was another company they were all analog hybrid filters
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> digital osc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but when cem started to stop manufacture due to the digital
>>>>>>> synths
>>>>>>> and updated poly by digital means to have a 24 32 64 voice poly
>>>>>>> synth with analog filters would mean 64 analog filters 64 analog
>>>>>>> vca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this would have made the synths to big and the cost was to great
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so all manufacturers made asic chips that could simulate filters
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doing negative feed back in digital properly is very hard for  
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> thing you need lots of processor power they just never had thing
>>>>>>> fast enough
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and you get samples in time delay for feed back
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> unlike analog which is zero time as its fed straight to the  
>>>>>>> input
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with digital it all has to be computed the fed back to the
>>>>>>> begining
>>>>>>> which adds latency
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> roland did it but it was good but analog it was not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> casio created the first and only hybrid filter being digital
>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>> by cpu and analog audio path
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all other systems they had to use dacs for the cv under cpu
>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>> the sample and hold multiplexers which were digitally controlled
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> they would sample the cv volTAGE AT ITS IMPUT OF 5V AND THEN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the sample and hold would sample the voltage given by the cpu  
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> hold it in the output this would be sent tothe filters
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this was first done on an 8bit system
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thats why some analog synths that are cpu controlled were a
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> steppy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the later synths like the jx3p and 8p and the matrix12 used  
>>>>>>> 12bit
>>>>>>> dacs for the cv control giving better rate but on the matrix  
>>>>>>> 1000
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> was left as 8bits and is very steppy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for those type of sounds today i use the shruthi which is  
>>>>>>> digital
>>>>>>> and a new analog filter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> out of all digital res filters i have used the roland s series
>>>>>>> samplers and the kurzweil vast dsp system are the best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yamaha are not that bad sy99sy77 and the va and later synths
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as for wavetable synthesis using your own wavetables the eps16+/
>>>>>>> asr10 ts10/12 are the best and can do way more than the waldorfs
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i own a waldorf wave and a uwave 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i have owned a blofeld and a q but i got rid of those as i could
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> the sounds on the ensoniqs but bigger more massive sounding
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and with wavetables res filters are no good as you lose the
>>>>>>> fealing
>>>>>>> of the wavetable at high res settings they just become sin waves
>>>>>>> losing all the detail of the wavetable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> even on the ppg the patches that used the scanning capability  
>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> not use res
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the res usually was used when just using a single cycle of the
>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>> with no wavetable morph to simulate analog synths that only used
>>>>>>> sin/
>>>>>>> tri/square/saw noise waves
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i like the filters on the s3200 with its extra filter board you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> do some neat filter tricks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i liked this sampler so much i still own 5 of them with 3 having
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 135mb optical drives
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i have 5 asr10 3 keyboards 2 racks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and 3 s760 samplers and 1 s770 nice dacs on that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i like the s950 and i have a mpc60 which i use for hardware
>>>>>>> sequencer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> kurzweil k2000sp and k2500 rack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tx16w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the 2 dsm1 used mainly for support of the t1 and t3ex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the dss1x with the usb and the 16mb upgrade with wave file
>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EII/EIII/e6400ultra/emulatorx2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i have owned a synclavier and a fairlight cmxIII
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but sold both of them ages ago when they were fetching big  
>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>> hand mula
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i own a gem s2turbo which is also a good wavetable synthand can
>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>> your own
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> being a synth tech i get my hands on so many synths and samplers
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> get given stuff that people no longer want as part payments
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the fz1 still has at to play in songs as its gritty and can do
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>> good synth type sounds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the alphajuno1/2 the hoover sound was sampled a lot as the  
>>>>>>> filter
>>>>>>> and pitch modulation for hoover type sounds was great on the fz1
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> was used by many freinds in the early 80,s for this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes the alphajuno could do it but in unison mode you only get 1
>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>> sampling the unison mode and then putting it through thr fz1
>>>>>>> filter
>>>>>>> with the pitch and the filter cuttoff modulated with the mod
>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>> made it so much fatter with doing chords
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Jason Adkins
>>>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 1:22 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hiya,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know what you mean,but the filters on my S5000 are not too  
>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>> I'm sure we have probably had this conversation before but if  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> DSM-1 had those facilities basically in the first place why did
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> release it as it was? It just doesn't make sense unless they
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>> want to take sales away from the DSS-1?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21 Oct 2012, at 10:34, jammie wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes but the akai are so clinical digital
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> even though the dsm1 never had res it did still have analog
>>>>>>>> filters
>>>>>>>> and they are warm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i use the dsm1 mainly for pcm creation of samples for the t1  
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> t3ex that i have i have 2 dsm1 1 which i have done the res
>>>>>>>> conversion and the external inputs so i can run my digital
>>>>>>>> synths
>>>>>>>> through it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AND ONE TOTALLY UNTOUCHED VERSION
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we are working on a usb and 16mb upgrade for it with a filter
>>>>>>>> upgrade board that will fit in the original pads in sockets  
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> will give us res but also we are doing the pole mixing like the
>>>>>>>> matrix12
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my spectral sound sets can be used on the fz1 ill do a bunch in
>>>>>>>> fzf
>>>>>>>> format which you can dump to the synth via midi let me know  
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> waveshapes you want
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i have the full single cycle waves of each wavetable of the ppg
>>>>>>>> series
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> same for the uwave and the uwavext
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i have the 128 wavetable 1/2 of the waldorfq
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the waves tables of the esq1 and the vfx range
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the prophet vs including my user waves
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the kawai k3 k1/k4/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and lots of analog waves sampled from analog synths
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> by layering them in the fz1 range you can get 4 samples layered
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> 2 note poly to do d50 or prophet vs type patches
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and you can do 8 layer unison detuned type sounds using 8  
>>>>>>>> layers
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> layering them and detuning them with a sub osc being 2 octaves
>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>> you can get very fat sounds
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and i like the analog filter on the fz1 its digitally  
>>>>>>>> controlled
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> the audio is pure analog same way the osc are controlled on the
>>>>>>>> dco
>>>>>>>> of the roland series
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which are pure analog patch with digital clock stable tune
>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Jason Adkins
>>>>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 1:50 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You certainly seem to be doing some interesting stuff Jammie.
>>>>>>>> I used to have briefly a DSM1,sorry I hated it nowhere near as
>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> the DSS-1 no delay's and no analogue filters as standard  
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> f**king about with it (I''m no circuit bender sadly) sorry I
>>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> digital wave stuff but I'm still a tart when it comes to
>>>>>>>> analogue
>>>>>>>> filters and the floppy on the DSM1 was a c**t. no wonder
>>>>>>>> everybody
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> his wife bought an Akai.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I may have Turbosynth.... also you can do some
>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>> stuff with Steinberg Avalon (Atari again).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for truncated response my football team Norwich are on
>>>>>>>> match of
>>>>>>>> the day in a moment which I want to watch, they beat Arsenal  
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> first time at Carrow Road in 28 years today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 20 Oct 2012, at 22:38, jammie wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i have loads of 8bit waves for the prophet vs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> we are working on new pcm cards for the wavestation so in the
>>>>>>>>> near
>>>>>>>>> future it will be possible to write new pcm data to the pcm
>>>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> plus they are going to be 2-4mb switched in 512k banks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> get a dsm1 they are great same additive engine as the dss1 and
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> has 4 multitimbral so doing prophet vs sounds is easy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but with samples so its more like a jd800/jd990 but with  
>>>>>>>>> analog
>>>>>>>>> filters
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the dsm1 has 16 of the dss1 chips res is tied to ground but
>>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> cut a trace add a 100ohm resister for current limiting and
>>>>>>>>> adding a
>>>>>>>>> pot to a 5v source this willgive good res but not self osc
>>>>>>>>> becuase
>>>>>>>>> you need 7v for that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i used on one of my dsm1 machines with a doepfer midi to cv
>>>>>>>>> controller you get 16 midi cv outputs that can be set up to  
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> midi
>>>>>>>>> cc control they are 0-5 v cv,s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the emax uses the same type of system but you have 32 partials
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> you also get to do them on a table ppg style
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you choose various additive waveforms on this table then you
>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>> volume envelopes for each cycle in the table and pitch
>>>>>>>>> envelopes
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the you interpolate from one single cycle to the other
>>>>>>>>> creating a
>>>>>>>>> spectral variating waveform like as if you were scanning the
>>>>>>>>> ppg
>>>>>>>>> wavetables
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the emax then creates this as a multisample and then you loop
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> what ever to get good no clicking loops of this file you need
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> the same single cycle additive waveform
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for slot one and the end slot
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the digidesign designed a software program that copied this  
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> could do it on a mac screen rather than use the tiny lcd
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it was called softsynth both for mac and atari
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> then they did a better version called turbo synth both mac and
>>>>>>>>> atari
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i used to use it on the mirage as it did great wavetables like
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> and made it easy for looping
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i create transwaves the same way for ensoniqs as they can  
>>>>>>>>> sweep
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> like the ppg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i have done all the ppg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the uwaveand wave which has 64 of them which also include the
>>>>>>>>> ppg
>>>>>>>>> but they sound different becuase the uwave and xt use half
>>>>>>>>> cycle
>>>>>>>>> waves then they compute the other half as a mirror image
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which is impossible to do with additive synthesis
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Adkins
>>>>>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:56 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jammie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have never used an Emax I think Francis Cote who post's on
>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> an Emax or 2 so he'd be a good guy to talk to.
>>>>>>>>> I'd love a DSS1 again but I havn't got the space now sadly (I
>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> keep all my gear around a friends house at the time) those
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> f**king huge.
>>>>>>>>> Can you do a similar trick with a wavestation/prophet VS?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 20 Oct 2012, at 21:33, jammie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and single cycle waves are the way to go with theses samplers
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> k3
>>>>>>>>>> k5 k5000 ppg dss1 and the fz1 range all have additive sin
>>>>>>>>>> synthesis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but the neat trick on both the dss1 and the fz range is that
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> link mix the additive waves to create a moving wavetable
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a bit like the emax spectral synth generation
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: jammie
>>>>>>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:29 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yes you can fit scsi its the card fitted to the fz20
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but you need a copy of the scsi floppy access software
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and charlie still needs to get a good working floppy drive
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the floppy emulator is cheaper than a replacement drive
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Adkins
>>>>>>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:19 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think the FZ1/10m/20m is worth the effort the synth section
>>>>>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>>>> superb,my friend used to use that all the time,the only other
>>>>>>>>>> synth/
>>>>>>>>>> sampler I have used which had the a similar function was the
>>>>>>>>>> Korg
>>>>>>>>>> DSS-1 (just usiing a slider) although there are a few  
>>>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Atari which allow you to draw a waveform as does the Roland
>>>>>>>>>> samplers
>>>>>>>>>> and the Fairlight of course.
>>>>>>>>>> I think a PPG and possibly the Kawai K5 could do additive
>>>>>>>>>> drawing
>>>>>>>>>> using a slider too.
>>>>>>>>>> I know the FZ10m could be fitted with scsi because I saw one
>>>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>>> studio in Islington London and I asked the engineer if I  
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>> look around the back because he was loading sounds to it
>>>>>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>> Jaz
>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 00:18, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> im sure the technicians will love me $$$ ,
>>>>>>>>>>> and by now the prices of a
>>>>>>>>>>> shugart to scsi adaptor has sky rocketed.....
>>>>>>>>>>> so the raw image is it 1.68 Mb?
>>>>>>>>>>> please go on jammie , do you use some of this technology
>>>>>>>>>>> personally?
>>>>>>>>>>> i am interested adapting
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> charles
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jason Adkins" <jason_ralf808@...>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:23 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't agree,I think the FZ10m had a scsi option too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 19:43, jammie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its the floppy emulator image software that does a raw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be read by anything except the fz1/fz10/fz20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is no other programs that can write the floppy image
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the floppy becuase its a different speed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only the fz20 had scsi and its useless with out the floppy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> floppy disk access program has to be loaded sop that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fz20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use the scsi
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Adkins
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't there a PC program that will image FZ1/10m/20m
>>>>>>>>>>>>> floppies?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is your FZ10m fitted with SCSI?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2012, at 00:11, charlie midi gfa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a little o.t.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anybody tell me what drive will work in a fz10m ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (cross reference the matsushita ju-255 )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i can't find suitable drive or a indentical one to repair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fz10m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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