Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

If you use 4 steps of CZ envelope and put SUS in 3rd step, you have to  
set it this way for ADSR:

For example:
R1 = 50
L1 = 99

R2 = 50
L2 = 50

R3 = any value, it's not working
L3 = same as L2, in this case 50
SUS

R4 = 50
L4 = 0 (set automatically)
END

As you clearly see, you waste one step with this setting. Step 3 is  
not used in fact, because its R3 time is not working, and L3 level  
also not, because it's set to the same level as L2.

Quite unnecessary work, why to set two more values which are not  
effective? You can shift SUS setting one step back, to step 2, and END  
setting to step 3 and get the same result.

Daniel Forro


On 9 Nov, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Lee Borrell wrote:

> Just posted the same as Jammie - I think ASR is right I think about  
> Jammies.
>
> The upshot is correct - no need to use all 8 stages - setting END  
> diminishes the number of stages and setting SUS causes the sustain  
> point to occur at that stage.
>
> I'd need to double check - because my 1st thought was as Jammie,but  
> I have run into the ASR/ADSR thing before....I am pretty sure you  
> need 4 stages for ADSR,given that there are 4 letters. But Dan maybe  
> correct about stage 2 being both D&S.
>
> Either way,can see how it is confusing!
>
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> ________________________________
> From: jammie <jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012, 8:25
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Casio envelopes
>
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>
> daniel that is the correct way
>
> but you have done an asr envelope you need 4 steps
>
> yes by setting end at the last step the envelope will finish
>
> and you can see this on the screen as the envelope can be seen  
> visually
>
> theres also an advanced guide to the fz1 to which has all these  
> helpfull tips in it dont know if its available for download
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Daniel Forró
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Casio envelopes
>
> I'm not sure about my English as non native speaker, but let's try.
> Hopefully you will understand. It's quite easy after two strong
> espresso coffees:
>
> ADSR envelope has four segments:
> Attack Time
> Decay Time
> Sustain Level
> Release Time
>
> To simulate this on CZ, you have to use 3 steps:
> Step 1:
> R1 = will simulate Attack time, set for example 50 or as necessary.
> Decrease this value for slower Attack time, increase for faster Attack
> time. With 99 there's no Attack segment.
> L1 = set to 99 to get full range envelope
>
> Step 2 - set SUS for this step:
> R2 = will simulate Decay time, set for example 50 or as necessary.
> Decrease this value for slower Decay time, increase for faster Decay
> time. When 99, there's no Decay segment.
> L2 = simulates Sustain. To get Decay segment it must be set lower then
> L1, for example 50. When L1 = L2, there's no Decay, in such case R2
> can be set to any value because it's not effective.
>
> Step 3 - set END for this step:
> R3 = will simulate Release time, set for example 50 or as necessary.
> Decrease this value for longer Release time, increase for shorter
> Release time.
> L3 = when selecting END for this step it will be set automatically  
> to 0
>
> Was this right direction?
>
> If you are interested in CZ programming I would recommend you two
> books which can be found somewhere on the net:
> - An Insider's Guide to Casio CZ Synthesizers
> - The Easy CZ Book
>
> And of course standard Casio CZ Sound Synthesis Handbook, and Summary.
>
> Daniel Forro
>
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Carl Lofgren wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone - can someone explain in plain english how one should
>> think when programming Casio envelopes?
>>
>> At the moment I've been banging my head against my Casio FZ and I'm
>> trying to create a simple ADSR envelope, but no sir. Maybe my
>> caffeine level is too low - but I'm totally lost among the 8-stage
>> envelope here.
>>
>> Anyone who can help me in the right direction?
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