Notably the CZ has (night on) double the number of stages of ADSR- considering myself and my brother are attempting to create editors for both CZ and DX- the ADSR has been one of the stumbling blocks,since we are trying to create a "musketeer" solution,that is "one for all" - ie a programmable ADSR where the number of stages are set from without,allowing both CZ and DX to use the same system. I am in the formative stages of working through this - but it ain't easy. I have never really got beyond (4stage) ADSR on CZ,since most of the sounds only require that,the only extensive one is the preset which develops an echo by repeating the ADSR loop - a bit bonkers when you have multi-effects chains with several thousand forms of echo! ________________________________ From: Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013, 0:45 Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000 Thats the one! The CZ are different but almost as annoying to program as an FM synth,I think the you-tube video's have been pimped with delay and reverb. anyway,how did your A-level results go? ;) On 20 Aug 2013, at 00:34, Lee Borrell wrote: > Yep- the OTHER write protect hole!!! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013, 0:26 > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000 > > > > > The Atari DIN leads should be fine on PC too, the UA-4FX has normal > midi connectors as well as usb. > As I have said a million times before,tape the hole up on 1.44mb > floppies then the ST will accept them although 720kb discs are not > that > difficult to get. > I don't know much about programming computers,but I do about > sequencers. > The ST uses an interesting midi out which splits the signals into out > and thru on the one lead but I have never had a problem in 10 years > ever with a standard lead. > > J > > On 19 Aug 2013, at 23:09, Lee Borrell wrote: > >> I use the standard D plug to DIN plugs on Win98 - but a USB link on >> the laptop - which was a cheap buy from ebay and works okay. >> On Charles's suggestion I got hold of an Atari because it has MIDI >> built in and supports DX/CZ - as suggested getting the software from >> PC to Atari needs floppy transfer,which itself can be a pain as they >> are 720Kb disks on the Atari and have to be formatted correctly >> (Charles has the lowdown on this). >> I have to say having looked at the MIDI system on the Atari and the >> CX5m,they are not the easiest things to communicate with programming >> wise - and come to that neither is the PC. >> >> Sounds a bit odd that SYSx is only traveling in one direction,and >> that the cable would be the source of the problem. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@tiscali.co.uk> >> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013, 21:47 >> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000 >> >> >> >> >> Buy an Atari ST and download CZ-Android which is a free download from >> here:- http://tamw.atari-users.net/ (yes loads of artists still use >> these they are hardly pretty to look on screen nowadays and will have >> to use floppies to transfer to it (unless modified) >> >> Or yes the older PCi/E cards which run on all versions of XP will >> work >> i.e. emu404, the other one that works and will work fine on a mac is >> the Edirol UA-4fx usb box (cheap on ebay) anyway try:- http://www.midiox.com/ >> >> On 19 Aug 2013, at 21:00, steve_the_composer wrote: >> >>> This is so odd--evidently your usb-midi cable receives sysex from >>> the CZ but doesn't send it to the CZ. As I understand what we have >>> discussed, the cable sends and receives note data and continuous >>> controller data. >>> >>> As for me, I have some older MOTU parallel port midi interfaces as >>> well as an e-mu 2x2 (usb) interface. I also have an older emagic mt4 >>> (usb) interface that used to work with Windows XP SP1, but somewhere >>> around SP2 or SP3 it stopped working. >>> >>> By any chance are you handy with simple circuits and simple >>> programming? If so, you could build your own usb-midi interface with >>> a microprocessor such as an arduino. >>> >>> If you have a free PCI slot, you could get a PCI-based midi card, or >>> a sound card with a joystick port and a midi/joystick cable. I would >>> think that any $3.00 card should work--but maybe someone has one >>> lying around that they don't use. I'm not sure how much the midi/ >>> joystick cables are going for these days. >>> >>> Of course, it is possible that the problem is in the CZ. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "dedlandar" <dedlandar@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nothing happens when I transmit the glide on command back to the >>>> CZ. >>>> >>>> What kind of MIDI>USB cable are you guys using? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, it means that the CZ can transmit sysex (at least the glide >>>>> command) and your PC can receive it. What happens when you turn >>>>> the glide off and then try to transmit the captured glide on >>>>> command back to the CZ? >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! 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Re: [CZsynth] Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000
2013-08-20 by Lee Borrell