Yeah--just a couple of footnotes: (1) I never used midiquest, but if its still around, that must say something good about it. (2) I agree there may indeed be something going on with rate/speed. The only difference I see is that I don't think the problem is faster CPUs in as much as it is a failure of the OS or usb communication or interface drivers or something else that prevents steady and reliable 8-N-1 serial communication at 31250 bps. I don't disagree that adding in some extra time between either bits or bytes might solve the issue at hand. If it does, my gut says its more a matter of the nature of the serial communication process than the CPU speed. (Of course with GHz speeds, software and firmware designers may not give a hoot about serial data maintaining a reasonably reliable 31250 bps rate.) (3) I am in complete agreement with the idea of finding solutions to make modern computers work with older gear. (4) I seem to recall reading (MMA docs) that there is nothing in their specs that limit midi communication to 31250 bps. As I noted, I have used much higher rates to send midi data from the arduino to a VST on a 64-bit Win7. I do believe, however, that the processors and circuitry used in midi gear over the past several decades have not been set up to use faster rates. If there are optoisolators that can handle faster rates, I don't see why gear manufacturers can't take advantage of faster midi data rates. As I said, just some footnotes here; not really any big issues. Steve --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, analogmonster@... wrote: > > My point wasn't really about midiquest though, it was about the slowing down of sysex messages when using a "modern multi core laptop with win 8" Or equivilent. Leaving opinions about the software itself aside, Midiquest is one of the only current generation computer midi editors available. And in its preferences is a section where you can adjust the data transmission rate-Steve was curious about if/how the transmission rate change effected the problem if the midi serial rate is supposed to be a standard that doesn't change between devices, and this only reinforces the point that it does have an affect. > > The majority of the good pc software editors out there are abandonware, when ghz processor speeds, 64 bit and multicore were not something anyone had to account for. If you want the older technology to work with current gen you need to understand the issues involved. An Atari st completely sidesteps the problem by being the bridge between old and new. It doesn't need slowing down because compared to a modern pc it already is slow, but is a comparative speed to the mcu in the older synths were trying to communicate with. > > Personally as much as I'd love an atari st, it doesnt meet my requirements for audio-i certainly cant have 32 channels i/o at 96k with near zero latency. I'm far more interested in getting my modern equipment to behave well with my older gear so I can be prepared for both now and the future, rather than relying on what in computer terms is considered an antique.
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Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000
2013-08-21 by steve_the_composer
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