Excellent work! Daniel Forro On 24 Aug, 2013, at 10:52 AM, steve_the_composer wrote: > Even if its a moot point, I decided to test a usb-midi interface > cable. I opted for the iConnectivity mio. [It probably stands for > midi in/out.] > > The test was on an HP 64-bit Win7 SP1 laptop with an AMD Phenom II > P650 Dual-Core Processor 2.60 GHz. (Not as fast as this year's > models, but light years ahead of what was common in the 1980s.) I > used midi-ox with default settings, with no delays added between > bits or bytes. > > I did three tests: > (1) Receive and then send Glide sysex > (2) Request Sequencer Dump > (3) Request Sound Area Dump and then sent it back to the CZ. > > I have screen shots, which I will post when I am not so tired. I > need to draw a few things on at least two of the shots and write up > some explanations. > > Two important points for the moment: > (1) With the dump requests, I changed the keyboard to MIDI = 8. > However, I set the sysex request using 70 [channel 1]. It worked. > (2) The patch dump needs to tweaked before it is sent back to the CZ. > > It will probably be easier to see when I post the screen shots, but > basically here's a description. Consider this send request where the > computer requests the CZ to send the patch data from the Sound Area: > > F0 44 00 00 70 10 60 70 31 F7 > > The 6th byte [10] is the code to request the CZ send a patch. The > 7th byte [60] tells the CZ to send the data from the Sound Area. The > 8th and 9th bytes [70 31] are an acknowledge ment from the PC to the > CZ to continue after after the CZ sends a dump header: > > F0 44 00 00 70 30 > > Once the CZ receives the 70 31 from the PC the patch (aka tone data) > is sent with a final F7 byte. > > Notice the 6th byte is now 30. > > In order to send that data back to the CZ, you need to change that > 30 to a 20 and then >>INSERT<< a byte to tell the CZ the destination. > > In my case, I changed the header in the dump I received as follows: > > F0 44 00 00 70 20 60 . > > The 20 in the 6th place of the sysex command tells the CZ that data > is coming. the 60 in the 7th place tells the CZ to put the data in > the Sound Area. > > You cannot just send the data that was received from the CZ back to > the CZ. Without the 20 and the destination, the CZ will not know > what to do with the data. > > I am not sure if that provides the missing link to solve the > original problem. The resending of the Glide mode change does not > need to be changed like this. Not sure why it didn't work with the > Hosa usb-midi interface cable. > > In sum, on my modern laptop, the iConnectivity mio successfully > received and transferred a short sysex command and a single patch > dump using midi-ox without inserting delays. Needless to say if I > were writing a midi patch librarian program to receive and send 32 > or 64 patches I would have a delay between each dump send. > > Also, if I were making a midi file of 16 or 32 or 64 sysex dumps to > send to a CZ, I'd space them a bit in the file so there is some > separation between them. > > By the way, when I requested the sequencer dump, I inserted 7 sets > of 70 31 acknowledgement byte pairs even though for the sequence I > had in the CZ two would have been sufficient. There was no ill- > effect from sending the CZ too many "go ahead" commands. Once the CZ > sent the F7 to say the sequencer dump was done, it seemed to ignore > those bytes. > > However, I was not doing the dump and performing at the same time. > If someone else wants to see what happens when they do data > transfers at the same time as sending copious amounts of performance > data, be my guest. I think Casio's infamous F7 screw-up might > produced unpredictable results. I don't do bulk data dumps while > performing and its not a cutting edge technique I want to explore. > > (On the other hand, I have explored putting in data that is outside > the range of acceptable parameters. But that's a different can of > worms.) > > Hope these tests and explanations helps someone, sometime. > > Steve
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Re: [CZsynth] Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000 [Back to the problem]
2013-08-24 by Daniel Forró
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