no it saves data to hard drive or usb external or cf card
in the manual it states that it sends and recieves sysex but when changing params do sysex data is sent to the midi outputs so you can not record the strings
other wise i would have done it by trial and error but because it sends no data at all then you fcukde
it does recieve midi messages so you can set the internal settings to do real time control but for editing at the highest level to simplify the patch process so you dont have to keep change menu and to do it on a screen like in adaption or a ctrlr panel is much easier having all data in front of you
it makes my life very easy when programming my sy99 t1 01w d550 and many others which are just a pain todo from the front screen
and its easy for copy and pasting params saves a lot of time
the ctrlr is great for real time control in a vsti enviroment visually being able to see all control elements and real time controls is great and really brings out synths that are just impossible to do with tiny lcd screens
the kawai k3 is a great example there not a lot of real time control knobs like on the old analogs as they went to parameter and switches and only being able to do 1 realtime control as it only does 1 param at a time
but having a ctrlr panel so that you can change many params at a time via a control box mine is the korg pad control and the bcr2000
and with these i can control parts of my synths that i cannot usually use
like for instance on the ensoniqs vfx and samplers and the ts range you can do vector synthesis but because there is only 1 external control you cant use a joystick from a wavestation or prophet vs
but with a ctrlr panel you can as you set the external controls to control the panel but the outputs can then be sent to the synth to what you can program them to so the vector synthesis xy joystic 16/17cc i can still use one of the cc 16 or 17 but for the x or the y i need to use a controller that the ensoniqs will respond to internally and externally so
i reroute either 16 or 17 to data which is midi cc6 i can then progam the synths internally to crossfade to these controllers and use any synth with a x/y control to control vector synthesis on the ensoniqs via the ctrlr panel
----- Original Message -----
From: steve_the_composer
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:54 PM
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Sysex and USB MIDI
"the Fusion doesn't have sysex implementation that would allow it to work with commands for a remote MIDI editor."
But is the Fusion capable of doing bulk data dumps one patch at a time or even as a bank of patches? If so, you can create an editor that assembles the patch (or bank of patches) and then sends it to the Fusion.
If the Fusion has absolutely no sysex implementation at all, then you would be right. As for using ctrlr, I do not do lua programming so I cannot comment on whether or not you can assemble a preset byte at a time and then transmit it. From what little I have read, I am inclined tho think you can since I believe you can label and reference each item within a sysex dump. Again, my knowledge of ctrlr is very limited. Ask atom.
Steve
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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> http://promusicproducts.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1311
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> here is a debate on it
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jammie
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] RE: Sysex and USB MIDI
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>
>
> really daniel forro who always thinks he is right and likes to corect everybody to his perspective
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> do you own an s2 or a fusion if you did you would know
>
> i create ctrlr and sounddiver adaptions
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> and you cant make sysex editors for these synths
>
> if you read the manuals you would see that they can record and send sysex from there sequencer but that is for other synths
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> the fusion cant read sysex for it engine as we tried to make panels and editors for them and even contacted alesis direct for the sysex manual and was told there is not one
>
> as some one tried to make a dx7 syx conversion to fusion fm and its impossible the same as people wanted to use the micron sysex and convert to the fusion va and it cant be done as told by alesis them selfs in there q and a section
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> so before saying they do find out first
>
> ax80 does not do sysex and there are many others
>
> just because you cant think of any does not mean that they dont exist
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Daniel Forró
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] RE: Sysex and USB MIDI
>
> On 31 Aug, 2013, at 6:14 PM, jammie wrote:
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> > some synths never implemented sysex
>
> Really? Right now I can't remember even simple one without this
> ability...
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> > gem s2/s3 never had sysex so front panel editing only the alesis
> > fusion no sysex
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> Manual says there is SysEx control and shows lot of SysEx commands...
> >
> >
> > but for blanket preset dumps in find that change it is the quickest
> > utility
> >
> > it has a few synths added with editors
> >
> > but also has a generic conection you add your midi id channel and
> > interface that your cz is attached and add the delay you want and
> > then just open a sysex file and send
> >
> > http://www.mossgrabers.de/Software/ChangeIt/ChangeIt.html
> >
> > this is were the program is
>
> Only Windows....
>
> Daniel Forro
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Re: [CZsynth] Re: Sysex and USB MIDI
2013-08-31 by jammie