Yahoo Groups archive

Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:42 UTC

Message

Re: [CZsynth] Best backup battery solution for CZ-1000?

2016-07-14 by bill bigrig

I have many devices in my muzik room, (a couple hundred). I turn them all on and off at the same time EXCEPT Amps. I have a couple power strips plugged in ahead of the main one to leave some things powered up 24/7. Of course, this means that if you lose house power, you'll lose data. Mainly  it saves the memory batteries for when I DO need them.
Rig
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 7/12/16, Caleb Garner caleb.garner@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Best backup battery solution for CZ-1000?
 To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016, 10:13 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       replying to both emails in
  here more or less:
 
 
 
 - cool about the battery..  yea that diode makes me
 nervous.. no idea 
 where that would go..  
 
 
 
 - yes changing batteries once a year isn't the worst
 thing to do.. i'll 
 probably be ok with it once i get Unisyn installed with
 DP3.. so I can 
 actually send / receive sysex patches from it..  this way
 patches get 
 saved with songs and dump backups can be sent / pulled any
 time..  i 
 have the cartridge with a fresh battery so that's
 safe..  and the 16 
 internal could be restored literally as needed when doing a
 session..  
 so there's that :)     I have midiquest11 which is
 great, but doesn't 
 run on OS9..  So unisyn will have to do for most things. 
 
 
 
 
 - i get it.. it could be risky.. but then i have a number of
 pieces of 
 gear that the engineers left off power switches.  ART is
 especially 
 notorious for that..  I will probably do a few things but
 I'm going to 
 trust things like wall warts to handle the power surge since
 they are 
 outside the gear..   basically things i especially prize
 or are 
 exceptionally old like my Mirage and Akai S612..  The casio
 will get the
  treatment since for now I'm not going to mess with
 diodes personally 
 unless I can find someone locally to help out with it.. 
 things like my 
 fender quad reverb i don't turn on like that.. 
 that's very very old and
  something i don't use all that often anyway..  
 
 
 
 - do have items with sketchy / close to breaking buttons on
 things..  
 like my digitech RDS delay.. it works still but the
 "joint" it pivots on
  is wearing out and it's "this close" to
 popping out..  are most of my 
 buttons ok?  yes..  but the article spoke to me about this
 because i 
 could relate to his point. 
 
 
 
 - so yea i see enough high end pros doing it to not be too
 worried and 
 in reality most of the stuff I have is not really very
 valuable.. so 
 it's not like i have racks of Moogs and such..  but yea
 as i said a few 
 gems (to me) I might give a little extra love too just for
 good karma.. 
  
 
 
 
 - yea i always turn down the audio for my speakers / mixer
 to avoid any 
 popping sounds.. that seems to do the trick to prevent
 anything from 
 being hurt turning on/of
 
 
 
 Thanks! :)
 
 Caleb
 
 
 
 
 
 Gordonjcp gordon@...
 [CZsynth] wrote:
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
     
       
       
       On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 04:23:09AM -0400, Caleb
 Garner 
 caleb.garner@...
 [CZsynth] wrote:
 
 > I use a power conditioner as the main switch, so that
 also helps 
 insure 
 
 > regulating power and avoiding spikes..
 
 > 
 
 
 
 That's a good idea but won't help with the inrush
 current of suddenly 
 switching all the gear on simultaneously.
 
 
 
 The power ratings are the continuous load, it says nothing
 about the big
  surge as all those smoothing capacitors charge up and that
 is a fair 
 old whack.
 
 
 
 > 
 
 > however not to assume too much I found this thread and
 as you can 
 see 
 
 > yes some opinions are varied but there are guys in here
 who have 
 done it 
 
 > for many many years and even some pointing out the
 advantage of not
  
 
 > wearing out the on/off switches of aging gear.
 
 
 
 Can't say I've ever seen a worn-out on/off switch. 
 I'm not saying it 
 can't happen, but it wouldn't be the first failure
 mode I'd look for, 
 put it that way.
 
 
 
 > but yea what I'm trying to do is figure out how I
 can remove the 
 need 
 
 > for using D batteries as a backup since I'm not
 planning on playing
  this 
 
 > thing portably though I wouldn't mind keeping that
 ability of 
 course.
 
 
 
 Look at how synths that use Nicad or coin cell batteries (or
 like the 
 Kurzweils, a stack of HP7s in an easily-accessible hatch
 underneath) for
  memory backup.
 
 
 
 Basically you want to cut the supply to the RAM chip and add
 a diode 
 from +5V to the chip, and then add a backup battery with a
 diode to stop
  the +5V rail trying to charge it.
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
 
 
 
 
 
 
     
      
 
 
     
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 #yiv8445841304 #yiv8445841304 --

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.