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Re: [CZsynth] Re: pitch bend cz1

2016-10-12 by Daniel Forró

On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:35 PM, smw-mail@... [CZsynth] wrote:
> > MIDI as a protocol is required to run at 31.25 kbps,
>
> While older synths with 5-pin din connectors for midi inter- 
> connectivity operate (and related gear/software) used 31.25 kbps, it  
> is not required.

??? Of course it is required.

There were some attempts to use higher speed but it was not generally  
accepted.

>
> >a rather puny data rate - which can barely even handle the load of  
> polyphonic aftertouch, never mind polyphonic everything-else at the  
> same time.
>
> Possibly, but moreover the problem is with OS overhead, inefficient  
> drivers, and try-to-do-everything-at-once-including-audio-and-video  
> software.  If you take at Commodore 64 and write efficient asm code  
> to do midi I/O, my guess is 31.25 kbps will work. But don't do that,  
> get a modern microprocessor (even a relatively slow AVR-base arduino  
> compared to new) and write midi I/O code at anywhere from 31.25 kpbs  
> to speeds many times that.

Maybe, but in the end you have to go down to MIDI speed, if you want  
to talk with common MIDI instruments.

But many modern instruments started to use USB for MIDI transfer.  
Yamaha has their modification of FireWire protocol called m-Lan for  
audio and MIDI communication.

> >having said that, I think there are ideas out there for successors  
> to MIDI, but I haven't been following any of their progress.
> From what I have seen there have been changes all along since 1985  
> still using MIDI.
>

Yes, lot of changes, useful additions and improvements. Despite basic  
limited features it's still usable when used cleverly.
> Twenty years ago or so some people were saying MIDI was dead because  
> audio processing became accessible.
>
Sorry, but I don't see any connection between audio and MIDI. Two  
totally different attitudes...
> However, from what I have seen MIDI has continued to grow/change/ 
> etc. and is still useful for those people who know how to use it for  
> what they want.  Yes, there are still deficiencies, but there will  
> always be issues with any technology.
>
My words :-)

Daniel Forro

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