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Re: [CZsynth] HZ and HT: descendant of CZ?

2002-08-19 by sealed

Hello, 

Thank you for your response and I'm glad to talk about and investigate 
my HT and CZ.

I suspect HT uses PD rather than PCM because...

1. There is no accoustic samples, or accoustic simulating short loops 
(like Korg DW-8000 and Ensoniq ESQ-1, etc...). All I hear is familiar 
CZ brass and EP, though I can't exclude entirely the possibility that 
it might be sampled CZ sounds.

2. Some 'waveforms' has a short transient decay. The decay time doesn't 
vary when played at different pitch.

If anyone is interested, I will upload some samples to our files section 
or other places.


As for SD synthesizer models, I suspect they all share the same architecture, 
but HT-6000 is a bit improved version.

HZ-600: First introduced as a synth.
HT-3000/3500/700: Programmable auto accompaniment and a drum machine 
added.
HT-6000: Velocity sense added.

A catalog discription says that HT-6000 has 'Line edit' function. What 
it means is uncertain, but I hope it might be an ability to edit its 
two DCO's individually. 10 analog-like waveforms are printed on the panel 
of HT-6000, which reminds me of my CZ-1's panel. Maybe HT-6000 is the 
most editable in the SD synth line.


As you advised me, I can create similar sounds, putting CZ output into 
a filter. I may someday get an analog synth with an external input.


Best,

Sealed


> From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...>
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] HZ and HT: descendant of CZ?
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:47:40 -0400
> 
> >I have been an owner of a CZ-1 for years. I recently bought a CASIO 
HT-
> >3000 and to my surprise found that its 'SD synthesis' engine was in 
fact
> >a scaled-down PD synthesis with one analog VCF added.
> >
> >I believe that its so-called DCO is actually a set of two PD oscillators
> >with ring mod and maybe noise mod. They don't seem to have resonant 
waves
> >or 8 step env like CZ, so I said 'a scaled-down PD synthesis.'
> 
> I would kind of doubt it.  I don't have an HT or HZ (though I wouldn't 
mind 
> getting one) but it would seem to me that they use simple PCM waves. 
 You 
> might be able to check by taking both synths apart and comparing hardware.
> 
> >There are few resources on the net about its synthesis engine, and 
my
> >speculation is almost based only on my ear and years spent with my 
CZ.
> 
> Unfortunately there is very little technical information out there 
about any 
> casio synth.  I would love to see a webpage somewhere with every model 
and a 
> technical description of how they all work inside, but no one seems 
to have 
> enough information.
> 
> >This could have been my dream machine - if only I could edit the PD 
> >oscillator
> >section!
> 
> You could modify it to have a filter input, then run your CZ-1 through 
it to 
> get a similar effect...
> 
> >If you know something about SD synthesizers (HZ and HT), especially 
how
> >to deeply edit its sound and its relation to PD synthesis, please 
tell
> me.
> 
> That's one of those things that no one seems to know.....
> 
> But maybe you could tell me this- do you know the differences between 
the 
> HT-700, HT-3000, and HZ-600 (I think those are the right numbers)?  
Do they 
> have signifigantly different features and capabilities or are they 
the same 
> synth only repackaged?
> 
> >Sorry if this is off-topic, and sorry for my bad English as I am a 
> > >Japanese..
> >. Thanks.
> 
> It's not that off-topic.  And actually your english is very good.

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