Hello, Thank you for your response and I'm glad to talk about and investigate my HT and CZ. I suspect HT uses PD rather than PCM because... 1. There is no accoustic samples, or accoustic simulating short loops (like Korg DW-8000 and Ensoniq ESQ-1, etc...). All I hear is familiar CZ brass and EP, though I can't exclude entirely the possibility that it might be sampled CZ sounds. 2. Some 'waveforms' has a short transient decay. The decay time doesn't vary when played at different pitch. If anyone is interested, I will upload some samples to our files section or other places. As for SD synthesizer models, I suspect they all share the same architecture, but HT-6000 is a bit improved version. HZ-600: First introduced as a synth. HT-3000/3500/700: Programmable auto accompaniment and a drum machine added. HT-6000: Velocity sense added. A catalog discription says that HT-6000 has 'Line edit' function. What it means is uncertain, but I hope it might be an ability to edit its two DCO's individually. 10 analog-like waveforms are printed on the panel of HT-6000, which reminds me of my CZ-1's panel. Maybe HT-6000 is the most editable in the SD synth line. As you advised me, I can create similar sounds, putting CZ output into a filter. I may someday get an analog synth with an external input. Best, Sealed > From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...> > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] HZ and HT: descendant of CZ? > Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:47:40 -0400 > > >I have been an owner of a CZ-1 for years. I recently bought a CASIO HT- > >3000 and to my surprise found that its 'SD synthesis' engine was in fact > >a scaled-down PD synthesis with one analog VCF added. > > > >I believe that its so-called DCO is actually a set of two PD oscillators > >with ring mod and maybe noise mod. They don't seem to have resonant waves > >or 8 step env like CZ, so I said 'a scaled-down PD synthesis.' > > I would kind of doubt it. I don't have an HT or HZ (though I wouldn't mind > getting one) but it would seem to me that they use simple PCM waves. You > might be able to check by taking both synths apart and comparing hardware. > > >There are few resources on the net about its synthesis engine, and my > >speculation is almost based only on my ear and years spent with my CZ. > > Unfortunately there is very little technical information out there about any > casio synth. I would love to see a webpage somewhere with every model and a > technical description of how they all work inside, but no one seems to have > enough information. > > >This could have been my dream machine - if only I could edit the PD > >oscillator > >section! > > You could modify it to have a filter input, then run your CZ-1 through it to > get a similar effect... > > >If you know something about SD synthesizers (HZ and HT), especially how > >to deeply edit its sound and its relation to PD synthesis, please tell > me. > > That's one of those things that no one seems to know..... > > But maybe you could tell me this- do you know the differences between the > HT-700, HT-3000, and HZ-600 (I think those are the right numbers)? Do they > have signifigantly different features and capabilities or are they the same > synth only repackaged? > > >Sorry if this is off-topic, and sorry for my bad English as I am a > > >Japanese.. > >. Thanks. > > It's not that off-topic. And actually your english is very good.
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Re: [CZsynth] HZ and HT: descendant of CZ?
2002-08-19 by sealed
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