Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Hi everyone, I'm kinda curious if it's possible to mod any of the 
more advanced cz synths in a way that their LFO modulates velocity. 
That should be possible my soldering a couple of wires and adding a 
switch, shouldn't it?

Maybe a disassembler would be a good tool to add those functions ;)
Other than that soundprogramming wise it makes more sence to modulate LFO by 
velocity than vice versa ;)

...Summa


On 10 Dec 2004 at 20:31, P........ wrote:

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>Hi everyone, I'm kinda curious if it's possible to mod any of the
>more advanced cz synths in a way that their LFO modulates velocity.
>That should be possible my soldering a couple of wires and adding a
>switch, shouldn't it?

I don't think it's possible unless you want to spend a considerable amount 
of time reverse-engineering it.  And even then it's kind of doubtful that 
any real features could be added (well, I know that at least a couple 
CZ-101s have been circuit-bent, but I don't know the extent of these 
modifications)

I'm 99% sure that this is impossible: the LFO in these synths exists
only as a software entity, so there's no way to modulate it.

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "P........" <phd76er@y...> wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone, I'm kinda curious if it's possible to mod any of the 
> more advanced cz synths in a way that their LFO modulates velocity. 
> That should be possible my soldering a couple of wires and adding a 
> switch, shouldn't it?

Humm.. I thought I remember that somebody managed to do that one 
time, but I don't remember where that was posted.. besides I propably 
was wrong with velocity, I really meant the mod wheel feature. Since 
it affects the DCW's I thought I might be able to have the LFO 
modulate the DCW over the mod wheel.. somhow.. but I'm not really 
gifted with technical wisdom. But I'm pretty convinced that it should 
be possible to route the LFO to something else but the DCO's since it 
has to affect those thru the hardware, right? Sorry if I sound 
somewhat stubborn, but it would be such a nice feature to have LFO 
for the DCW's or DCA's.
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "logicalhippo" <logicalhippo@y...> 
wrote:
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> 
> I'm 99% sure that this is impossible: the LFO in these synths exists
> only as a software entity, so there's no way to modulate it.
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "P........" <phd76er@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi everyone, I'm kinda curious if it's possible to mod any of the 
> > more advanced cz synths in a way that their LFO modulates 
velocity. 
> > That should be possible my soldering a couple of wires and adding 
a 
> > switch, shouldn't it?

>Humm.. I thought I remember that somebody managed to do that one
>time, but I don't remember where that was posted.. besides I propably
>was wrong with velocity, I really meant the mod wheel feature. Since
>it affects the DCW's I thought I might be able to have the LFO
>modulate the DCW over the mod wheel.. somhow.. but I'm not really
>gifted with technical wisdom. But I'm pretty convinced that it should
>be possible to route the LFO to something else but the DCO's since it
>has to affect those thru the hardware, right? Sorry if I sound
>somewhat stubborn, but it would be such a nice feature to have LFO
>for the DCW's or DCA's.

It does it in hardware but it's highly-integrated digital hardware.  I'm not 
familiar with the internals of the CZ-synths but it wouldn't surprise me at 
all if the LFOs, envelopes, as well as the sound generation stuff was all 
contained on one chip, making it completely impossible to add anything.   In 
all likelihood it would be easier to model the entire synth in software and 
add features to that (like FM7, there's no way you're going to get 
freely-definable algorithms, or whatever, on a real DX7, it's just not 
possible without re-creating the entire instrument).

I'm a little surprised that no one (to my knowledge) has modeled the CZs into a VST or something. A 
Super CZ on steroids virtual synth would be mighty cool....

This sounds like an interesting project.... If only I had the time + programming skills :)

Scott

Scott Nordlund wrote:

> It does it in hardware but it's highly-integrated digital hardware.  I'm not 
> familiar with the internals of the CZ-synths but it wouldn't surprise me at 
> all if the LFOs, envelopes, as well as the sound generation stuff was all 
> contained on one chip, making it completely impossible to add anything.   In 
> all likelihood it would be easier to model the entire synth in software and 
> add features to that (like FM7, there's no way you're going to get 
> freely-definable algorithms, or whatever, on a real DX7, it's just not 
> possible without re-creating the entire instrument).
> 


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