Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

hello you Crazioheadz.... i bought my first casios almost the very same 
year they were released: MT-41/1983, CZ-1000&5000/1985 and SK-1/1986

some years ago i discovered the sea of casio-keyboards (and other small 
homekeyboards as well) on eBAY and started out collecting them tracking 
them down mostly in Germany,UK and US ..Sweden is a f***ing desert when 
it comes to these lovely casiotones from the begin of 80's, just ugly 
looking plastic shit CTK and Lightkey models around in secondhands....

don't fall of your chairs now, i do not understand why i tell you what 
i've got in my casio-chamber...but anyway here's my list.....

2xVL-tone-1,VL-tone-5, PT-1,2xPT-20,PT-22,PT-30(incl.TA-1 cassette 
storage interface),PT-100,MT-11,20,21,30,31,41,52,55,2x60,65,68,70, 
520, GZ-5......phew!.... well ok... i will keep on going........
Casiotone 2x201,2x401,2x403,405,501,3x701,1000P and finally the 
fantastic Casiotone 7000 ...that's it for now but i will keep on buying 
until every damn corner of my apartment is filled with them :) 

what i'm hunting right now: Casiotones:101,202,320,410V,430,610,620,
701(velvet black),6000,6500,8000(Symphonytron 8000),M-10,VL-10,
PT-7,PT-31,PT-50,MT-400V,SK-1,5,200

cheers you all, see you in casiotone-hell ;)

/kent in sweden

>2xVL-tone-1,VL-tone-5, PT-1,2xPT-20,PT-22,PT-30(incl.TA-1 cassette
>storage interface),PT-100,MT-11,20,21,30,31,41,52,55,2x60,65,68,70,
>520, GZ-5......phew!.... well ok... i will keep on going........
>Casiotone 2x201,2x401,2x403,405,501,3x701,1000P and finally the
>fantastic Casiotone 7000 ...that's it for now but i will keep on buying
>until every damn corner of my apartment is filled with them :)

Great, I "only" have 15 or so small/crappy keyboards (casio, yamaha, 
bontempi, v-tech, yongmei..) piled up in my room.

Congrats on the PT-30, MT-60, CT1000P and other cool/rare models.

I'm afraid though that I'm going to have to bug you about some of those 
models, some of them I've long wondered about but never gotten any 
satisfactory information- how similar is the 1000P to the 701?  And how 
similar are the other super sexy fullsize woodgrain models to the smaller MT 
keyboards?  Is the MT-60 way cooler than the MT-68 (aside from just looks)?  
And what about the 7000?  It looks awesome but I've never really heard a 
good description...

>what i'm hunting right now: Casiotones:101,202,320,410V,430,610,620,
>701(velvet black),6000,6500,8000(Symphonytron 8000),M-10,VL-10,
>PT-7,PT-31,PT-50,MT-400V,SK-1,5,200

You should have good luck on US ebay with the 202 and 8000, when I see them 
pop up (which is not often but occasionally) they tend to not go for very 
much, though shipping might be a lot.

(I would also suggest looking into the HT series and maybe a VA-10)

hi Scott (and everyone), what keyboards do you own then, Scott ?
   
  i managed to buy one of the most sought after (for me) keyboards this night, CT-620, last one before changing into PCM-drums (CT-630)
   
  i see often PT-30's on ebay, MT-60 is quite rare and Casiotone 1000P as well.
   
  sound of 1000P and 701 is very similar using same sound-engine i think. 1000P is programable (huge limits of course) while 701 is not. there are no rhythms/accomp in 1000P but there is a crazy advanced arpeggiator which can be used as a sequencer, no external syncinterface built in but there was a time when a company did build an sync interface so that you could hook 1000P up to an Boss DR-55 rhythmmachine.
   
  MT-60 are a "black lamb" indeed, looks like MT-45/46/65/68 but the soundengine is more like Casiotone 403, accompaniment in MT-60 differs also from other models..... MT-60 is one of the strangest Casios around! and ohh...there is one up now on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.de/Keyboard-Casio-Casiotone-MT-60_W0QQitemZ7412443796QQcategoryZ47035QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
   
  the mighty Casiotone 7000 was one of the biggest and most advanced back in 1983/84 with 2 track melody sequencer, accomp sequencer, sounds is analoguish thank lord! not this typical primitive additive sound-engine as in MT-70, Casiotone 501,601,701 and 1000P
   
  yes i have those HS and VA on my list too, but these later models is not prior on my want-list, although if i see and HS-6000 cheap i will grab it instantly of course!! ;=)
  
Scott Nordlund <gsn10@...> skrev:
  >2xVL-tone-1,VL-tone-5, PT-1,2xPT-20,PT-22,PT-30(incl.TA-1 cassette
>storage interface),PT-100,MT-11,20,21,30,31,41,52,55,2x60,65,68,70,
>520, GZ-5......phew!.... well ok... i will keep on going........
>Casiotone 2x201,2x401,2x403,405,501,3x701,1000P and finally the
>fantastic Casiotone 7000 ...that's it for now but i will keep on buying
>until every damn corner of my apartment is filled with them :)

Great, I "only" have 15 or so small/crappy keyboards (casio, yamaha, 
bontempi, v-tech, yongmei..) piled up in my room.

Congrats on the PT-30, MT-60, CT1000P and other cool/rare models.

I'm afraid though that I'm going to have to bug you about some of those 
models, some of them I've long wondered about but never gotten any 
satisfactory information- how similar is the 1000P to the 701?  And how 
similar are the other super sexy fullsize woodgrain models to the smaller MT 
keyboards?  Is the MT-60 way cooler than the MT-68 (aside from just looks)?  
And what about the 7000?  It looks awesome but I've never really heard a 
good description...

>what i'm hunting right now: Casiotones:101,202,320,410V,430,610,620,
>701(velvet black),6000,6500,8000(Symphonytron 8000),M-10,VL-10,
>PT-7,PT-31,PT-50,MT-400V,SK-1,5,200

You should have good luck on US ebay with the 202 and 8000, when I see them 
pop up (which is not often but occasionally) they tend to not go for very 
much, though shipping might be a lot.

(I would also suggest looking into the HT series and maybe a VA-10)




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>hi Scott (and everyone), what keyboards do you own then, Scott ?

Casio MT-68, PT-80, SK-1, SK-8 (previously owned an SK-5), SA-5 
(circuit-bent), VA-10, HT-6000, Yamaha VSS-200, PSS-570, PSS-130, PCS-30, 
Yongmei YM-250A, Bontempi T100 (I don't know actually, the name tag is 
missing).  And some other stuff but that covers the good ones.

And the "higher-quality" stuff: Ensoniq EPS, ESQ-M, Yamaha RX5, RY30, Casio 
VZ-10M, Dave Smith Instruments Evolver, etc.

Also of interest, I have a Keytek CTS-2000 (very obscure Italian synth, 
doesn't sound very good though).


>   i managed to buy one of the most sought after (for me) keyboards this 
>night, CT-620, last one before changing into PCM-drums (CT-630)

nice!


>   the mighty Casiotone 7000 was one of the biggest and most advanced back 
>in 1983/84 with 2 track melody sequencer, accomp sequencer, sounds is 
>analoguish thank lord! not this typical primitive additive sound-engine as 
>in MT-70, Casiotone 501,601,701 and 1000P

It's got analog drums and everything?  Does it sound similar to any other 
models?

>   yes i have those HS and VA on my list too, but these later models is not 
>prior on my want-list, although if i see and HS-6000 cheap i will grab it 
>instantly of course!! ;=)

The HT series might be more exciting than you expect: Basically they use the 
same style of single-cycle waveform style synthesis as the older models 
(MT-68, etc.) but they're programmable (waveform, ADSR envelopes, LFO for 
vibrato..) and have a VCF.  The auto-accompanyment isn't as good as older 
models and the drums are PCM but there's a really bad-sounding orchestra hit 
sample.

Has anyone heard of the Casio MT-400V?  That was an awesome keyboard and I 
have a ton of sound samples if anyone is interested.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you own.......


>hi Scott (and everyone), what keyboards do you own then, Scott ?

Casio MT-68, PT-80, SK-1, SK-8 (previously owned an SK-5), SA-5
(circuit-bent), VA-10, HT-6000, Yamaha VSS-200, PSS-570, PSS-130, PCS-30,
Yongmei YM-250A, Bontempi T100 (I don't know actually, the name tag is
missing).  And some other stuff but that covers the good ones.

And the "higher-quality" stuff: Ensoniq EPS, ESQ-M, Yamaha RX5, RY30, Casio
VZ-10M, Dave Smith Instruments Evolver, etc.

Also of interest, I have a Keytek CTS-2000 (very obscure Italian synth,
doesn't sound very good though).


>   i managed to buy one of the most sought after (for me) keyboards this
>night, CT-620, last one before changing into PCM-drums (CT-630)

nice!


>   the mighty Casiotone 7000 was one of the biggest and most advanced back
>in 1983/84 with 2 track melody sequencer, accomp sequencer, sounds is
>analoguish thank lord! not this typical primitive additive sound-engine as
>in MT-70, Casiotone 501,601,701 and 1000P

It's got analog drums and everything?  Does it sound similar to any other
models?

>   yes i have those HS and VA on my list too, but these later models is not
>prior on my want-list, although if i see and HS-6000 cheap i will grab it
>instantly of course!! ;=)

The HT series might be more exciting than you expect: Basically they use the
same style of single-cycle waveform style synthesis as the older models
(MT-68, etc.) but they're programmable (waveform, ADSR envelopes, LFO for
vibrato..) and have a VCF.  The auto-accompanyment isn't as good as older
models and the drums are PCM but there's a really bad-sounding orchestra hit
sample.






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i'd like to hear them...

--- Rocky Rodenbach <yooper@...> wrote:

> Has anyone heard of the Casio MT-400V?  That was an
> awesome keyboard and I 
> have a ton of sound samples if anyone is interested.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...>
> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:12 AM
> Subject: RE: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you
> own.......
> 
> 
> >hi Scott (and everyone), what keyboards do you own
> then, Scott ?
> 
> Casio MT-68, PT-80, SK-1, SK-8 (previously owned an
> SK-5), SA-5
> (circuit-bent), VA-10, HT-6000, Yamaha VSS-200,
> PSS-570, PSS-130, PCS-30,
> Yongmei YM-250A, Bontempi T100 (I don't know
> actually, the name tag is
> missing).  And some other stuff but that covers the
> good ones.
> 
> And the "higher-quality" stuff: Ensoniq EPS, ESQ-M,
> Yamaha RX5, RY30, Casio
> VZ-10M, Dave Smith Instruments Evolver, etc.
> 
> Also of interest, I have a Keytek CTS-2000 (very
> obscure Italian synth,
> doesn't sound very good though).
> 
> 
> >   i managed to buy one of the most sought after
> (for me) keyboards this
> >night, CT-620, last one before changing into
> PCM-drums (CT-630)
> 
> nice!
> 
> 
> >   the mighty Casiotone 7000 was one of the biggest
> and most advanced back
> >in 1983/84 with 2 track melody sequencer, accomp
> sequencer, sounds is
> >analoguish thank lord! not this typical primitive
> additive sound-engine as
> >in MT-70, Casiotone 501,601,701 and 1000P
> 
> It's got analog drums and everything?  Does it sound
> similar to any other
> models?
> 
> >   yes i have those HS and VA on my list too, but
> these later models is not
> >prior on my want-list, although if i see and
> HS-6000 cheap i will grab it
> >instantly of course!! ;=)
> 
> The HT series might be more exciting than you
> expect: Basically they use the
> same style of single-cycle waveform style synthesis
> as the older models
> (MT-68, etc.) but they're programmable (waveform,
> ADSR envelopes, LFO for
> vibrato..) and have a VCF.  The auto-accompanyment
> isn't as good as older
> models and the drums are PCM but there's a really
> bad-sounding orchestra hit
> sample.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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i'd like to hear it too, these two CT-410V & MT-400V are the ones at the upper lines in my want-list and it would be nice to listen to some demos.... please upload some here at CZsynth....

henry smithson <switchrecordings@...> skrev:  i'd like to hear them...

--- Rocky Rodenbach <yooper@...> wrote:

> Has anyone heard of the Casio MT-400V?  That was an
> awesome keyboard and I 
> have a ton of sound samples if anyone is interested.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...>
> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:12 AM
> Subject: RE: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you
> own.......
> 
> 
> >hi Scott (and everyone), what keyboards do you own
> then, Scott ?
> 
> Casio MT-68, PT-80, SK-1, SK-8 (previously owned an
> SK-5), SA-5
> (circuit-bent), VA-10, HT-6000, Yamaha VSS-200,
> PSS-570, PSS-130, PCS-30,
> Yongmei YM-250A, Bontempi T100 (I don't know
> actually, the name tag is
> missing).  And some other stuff but that covers the
> good ones.
> 
> And the "higher-quality" stuff: Ensoniq EPS, ESQ-M,
> Yamaha RX5, RY30, Casio
> VZ-10M, Dave Smith Instruments Evolver, etc.
> 
> Also of interest, I have a Keytek CTS-2000 (very
> obscure Italian synth,
> doesn't sound very good though).
> 
> 
> >   i managed to buy one of the most sought after
> (for me) keyboards this
> >night, CT-620, last one before changing into
> PCM-drums (CT-630)
> 
> nice!
> 
> 
> >   the mighty Casiotone 7000 was one of the biggest
> and most advanced back
> >in 1983/84 with 2 track melody sequencer, accomp
> sequencer, sounds is
> >analoguish thank lord! not this typical primitive
> additive sound-engine as
> >in MT-70, Casiotone 501,601,701 and 1000P
> 
> It's got analog drums and everything?  Does it sound
> similar to any other
> models?
> 
> >   yes i have those HS and VA on my list too, but
> these later models is not
> >prior on my want-list, although if i see and
> HS-6000 cheap i will grab it
> >instantly of course!! ;=)
> 
> The HT series might be more exciting than you
> expect: Basically they use the
> same style of single-cycle waveform style synthesis
> as the older models
> (MT-68, etc.) but they're programmable (waveform,
> ADSR envelopes, LFO for
> vibrato..) and have a VCF.  The auto-accompanyment
> isn't as good as older
> models and the drums are PCM but there's a really
> bad-sounding orchestra hit
> sample.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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It's got analog drums and everything?  Does it sound similar to any other 
models?
   
  Casiotone 7000 has analog drums yes! sounds is quite the same as in MT-68 but less envelope possibilities


The HT series might be more exciting than you expect: Basically they use the 
same style of single-cycle waveform style synthesis as the older models 
(MT-68, etc.) but they're programmable (waveform, ADSR envelopes, LFO for 
vibrato..) and have a VCF.  The auto-accompanyment isn't as good as older 
models and the drums are PCM but there's a really bad-sounding orchestra hit 
sample.

  yes i'm familiar with the HT-series functions, but how does this "single-cycle waveform" really work ? is it a sampled waveform looped or is it some kind of analog ?




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Hi.  I just upload the demo.  This was 20+ years ago, and I wasn't the one 
playing or arranging the song, so hold off with the tomatoes. :)   It get 
real repetitive, but there's some good variations in there.  I'll try to 
slice another sample that's a little better and send it along.  Enjoy.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "KW" <memtechlist@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: SV: Re: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you own.......


> i'd like to hear it too, these two CT-410V & MT-400V are the ones at the 
> upper lines in my want-list and it would be nice to listen to some 
> demos.... please upload some here at CZsynth....
>
> henry smithson <switchrecordings@...> skrev:  i'd like to hear 
> them...
>
> --- Rocky Rodenbach <yooper@...> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone heard of the Casio MT-400V?  That was an
>> awesome keyboard and I
>> have a ton of sound samples if anyone is interested.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...>
>> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:12 AM
>> Subject: RE: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you
>> own.......
>>
>>
>> >hi Scott (and everyone), what keyboards do you own
>> then, Scott ?
>>
>> Casio MT-68, PT-80, SK-1, SK-8 (previously owned an
>> SK-5), SA-5
>> (circuit-bent), VA-10, HT-6000, Yamaha VSS-200,
>> PSS-570, PSS-130, PCS-30,
>> Yongmei YM-250A, Bontempi T100 (I don't know
>> actually, the name tag is
>> missing).  And some other stuff but that covers the
>> good ones.
>>
>> And the "higher-quality" stuff: Ensoniq EPS, ESQ-M,
>> Yamaha RX5, RY30, Casio
>> VZ-10M, Dave Smith Instruments Evolver, etc.
>>
>> Also of interest, I have a Keytek CTS-2000 (very
>> obscure Italian synth,
>> doesn't sound very good though).
>>
>>
>> >   i managed to buy one of the most sought after
>> (for me) keyboards this
>> >night, CT-620, last one before changing into
>> PCM-drums (CT-630)
>>
>> nice!
>>
>>
>> >   the mighty Casiotone 7000 was one of the biggest
>> and most advanced back
>> >in 1983/84 with 2 track melody sequencer, accomp
>> sequencer, sounds is
>> >analoguish thank lord! not this typical primitive
>> additive sound-engine as
>> >in MT-70, Casiotone 501,601,701 and 1000P
>>
>> It's got analog drums and everything?  Does it sound
>> similar to any other
>> models?
>>
>> >   yes i have those HS and VA on my list too, but
>> these later models is not
>> >prior on my want-list, although if i see and
>> HS-6000 cheap i will grab it
>> >instantly of course!! ;=)
>>
>> The HT series might be more exciting than you
>> expect: Basically they use the
>> same style of single-cycle waveform style synthesis
>> as the older models
>> (MT-68, etc.) but they're programmable (waveform,
>> ADSR envelopes, LFO for
>> vibrato..) and have a VCF.  The auto-accompanyment
>> isn't as good as older
>> models and the drums are PCM but there's a really
>> bad-sounding orchestra hit
>> sample.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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cannot find your demo, where did you put it ?

Rocky Rodenbach <yooper@...> skrev:  Hi.  I just upload the demo.  This was 20+ years ago, and I wasn't the one 
playing or arranging the song, so hold off with the tomatoes. :)   It get 
real repetitive, but there's some good variations in there.  I'll try to 
slice another sample that's a little better and send it along.  Enjoy.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "KW" <memtechlist@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: SV: Re: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you own.......


> i'd like to hear it too, these two CT-410V & MT-400V are the ones at the 
> upper lines in my want-list and it would be nice to listen to some 
> demos.... please upload some here at CZsynth....
>
> henry smithson <switchrecordings@...> skrev:  i'd like to hear 
> them...
>
> --- Rocky Rodenbach <yooper@...> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone heard of the Casio MT-400V?  That was an
>> awesome keyboard and I
>> have a ton of sound samples if anyone is interested.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...>
>> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:12 AM
>> Subject: RE: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you
>> own.......
>>
>>
>> >hi Scott (and everyone), what keyboards do you own
>> then, Scott ?
>>
>> Casio MT-68, PT-80, SK-1, SK-8 (previously owned an
>> SK-5), SA-5
>> (circuit-bent), VA-10, HT-6000, Yamaha VSS-200,
>> PSS-570, PSS-130, PCS-30,
>> Yongmei YM-250A, Bontempi T100 (I don't know
>> actually, the name tag is
>> missing).  And some other stuff but that covers the
>> good ones.
>>
>> And the "higher-quality" stuff: Ensoniq EPS, ESQ-M,
>> Yamaha RX5, RY30, Casio
>> VZ-10M, Dave Smith Instruments Evolver, etc.
>>
>> Also of interest, I have a Keytek CTS-2000 (very
>> obscure Italian synth,
>> doesn't sound very good though).
>>
>>
>> >   i managed to buy one of the most sought after
>> (for me) keyboards this
>> >night, CT-620, last one before changing into
>> PCM-drums (CT-630)
>>
>> nice!
>>
>>
>> >   the mighty Casiotone 7000 was one of the biggest
>> and most advanced back
>> >in 1983/84 with 2 track melody sequencer, accomp
>> sequencer, sounds is
>> >analoguish thank lord! not this typical primitive
>> additive sound-engine as
>> >in MT-70, Casiotone 501,601,701 and 1000P
>>
>> It's got analog drums and everything?  Does it sound
>> similar to any other
>> models?
>>
>> >   yes i have those HS and VA on my list too, but
>> these later models is not
>> >prior on my want-list, although if i see and
>> HS-6000 cheap i will grab it
>> >instantly of course!! ;=)
>>
>> The HT series might be more exciting than you
>> expect: Basically they use the
>> same style of single-cycle waveform style synthesis
>> as the older models
>> (MT-68, etc.) but they're programmable (waveform,
>> ADSR envelopes, LFO for
>> vibrato..) and have a VCF.  The auto-accompanyment
>> isn't as good as older
>> models and the drums are PCM but there's a really
>> bad-sounding orchestra hit
>> sample.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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How many MT-400V's are out there?
I understand that they're pretty rare and that there is a full-size
keyboard version in the MT series too, which is impossible to get. I
have two 400V's - one has a cracked PCB and neither have speakers.
Awesome drums and filters.


--- KW <memtechlist@...> wrote:

> cannot find your demo, where did you put it ?
> 
> Rocky Rodenbach <yooper@...> skrev:  Hi.  I just upload
> the demo.  This was 20+ years ago, and I wasn't the one 
> playing or arranging the song, so hold off with the tomatoes. :)   It
> get 
> real repetitive, but there's some good variations in there.  I'll try
> to 
> slice another sample that's a little better and send it along. 
> Enjoy.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "KW" <memtechlist@...>
> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:18 PM
> Subject: SV: Re: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you own.......
> 
> 
> > i'd like to hear it too, these two CT-410V & MT-400V are the ones
> at the 
> > upper lines in my want-list and it would be nice to listen to some 
> > demos.... please upload some here at CZsynth....
> >
> > henry smithson <switchrecordings@...> skrev:  i'd like to
> hear 
> > them...
> >
> > --- Rocky Rodenbach <yooper@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Has anyone heard of the Casio MT-400V?  That was an
> >> awesome keyboard and I
> >> have a ton of sound samples if anyone is interested.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...>
> >> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:12 AM
> >> Subject: RE: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you
> >> own.......
> >>
> >>
> >> >hi Scott (and everyone), what keyboards do you own
> >> then, Scott ?
> >>
> >> Casio MT-68, PT-80, SK-1, SK-8 (previously owned an
> >> SK-5), SA-5
> >> (circuit-bent), VA-10, HT-6000, Yamaha VSS-200,
> >> PSS-570, PSS-130, PCS-30,
> >> Yongmei YM-250A, Bontempi T100 (I don't know
> >> actually, the name tag is
> >> missing).  And some other stuff but that covers the
> >> good ones.
> >>
> >> And the "higher-quality" stuff: Ensoniq EPS, ESQ-M,
> >> Yamaha RX5, RY30, Casio
> >> VZ-10M, Dave Smith Instruments Evolver, etc.
> >>
> >> Also of interest, I have a Keytek CTS-2000 (very
> >> obscure Italian synth,
> >> doesn't sound very good though).
> >>
> >>
> >> >   i managed to buy one of the most sought after
> >> (for me) keyboards this
> >> >night, CT-620, last one before changing into
> >> PCM-drums (CT-630)
> >>
> >> nice!
> >>
> >>
> >> >   the mighty Casiotone 7000 was one of the biggest
> >> and most advanced back
> >> >in 1983/84 with 2 track melody sequencer, accomp
> >> sequencer, sounds is
> >> >analoguish thank lord! not this typical primitive
> >> additive sound-engine as
> >> >in MT-70, Casiotone 501,601,701 and 1000P
> >>
> >> It's got analog drums and everything?  Does it sound
> >> similar to any other
> >> models?
> >>
> >> >   yes i have those HS and VA on my list too, but
> >> these later models is not
> >> >prior on my want-list, although if i see and
> >> HS-6000 cheap i will grab it
> >> >instantly of course!! ;=)
> >>
> >> The HT series might be more exciting than you
> >> expect: Basically they use the
> >> same style of single-cycle waveform style synthesis
> >> as the older models
> >> (MT-68, etc.) but they're programmable (waveform,
> >> ADSR envelopes, LFO for
> >> vibrato..) and have a VCF.  The auto-accompanyment
> >> isn't as good as older
> >> models and the drums are PCM but there's a really
> >> bad-sounding orchestra hit
> >> sample.
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>   yes i'm familiar with the HT-series functions, but how does this 
>"single-cycle waveform" really work ? is it a sampled waveform looped or is 
>it some kind of analog ?

As I understand it, it's not really samples or analog- just very primitive 
16-step digital waveforms.  They're played at a high sample rate so there's 
no audible aliasing.  But obviously they're not very pure waveforms- the 
triangle wave on the HT series has a lot of overtones so it really doesn't 
sound much like a triangle wave.  I think it sounds really good this way.  
Also there's some kind of waveform crossfading (as you can hear on the 
MT-68's "cosmic tone" sound, for example) but this isn't editable in the HT 
series.

I think most Casio models (except MT-70, MT-35, CZ, VL, PT, etc.) used this 
until the sample-based stuff came out.

The early CT and MT series used static waveforms (as described below) with an amplitude envelope. Each voice (the keyboards tended to be 8-voice instruments) had two different waveforms, each with its own envelope. This allowed more interesting sounds to be produced. Later models even featured detuned waveforms and repeating envelopes. The 1000P and its ilk used additive synthesis which produced a more organ-like (and boring) sound than the earlier models.

Simon

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:59 AM
  Subject: RE: SV: RE: SV: RE: [CZsynth] What do you own.......


  >   yes i'm familiar with the HT-series functions, but how does this 
  >"single-cycle waveform" really work ? is it a sampled waveform looped or is 
  >it some kind of analog ?

  As I understand it, it's not really samples or analog- just very primitive 
  16-step digital waveforms.  They're played at a high sample rate so there's 
  no audible aliasing.  But obviously they're not very pure waveforms- the 
  triangle wave on the HT series has a lot of overtones so it really doesn't 
  sound much like a triangle wave.  I think it sounds really good this way.  
  Also there's some kind of waveform crossfading (as you can hear on the 
  MT-68's "cosmic tone" sound, for example) but this isn't editable in the HT 
  series.

  I think most Casio models (except MT-70, MT-35, CZ, VL, PT, etc.) used this 
  until the sample-based stuff came out.




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Never realized it till now but they are all 1's. 
MY LIST: VL-1, SK-1, CZ-1.

-michael-




--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "memtechlist" <memtechlist@...> wrote:
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> hello you Crazioheadz.... i bought my first casios almost the very 
same 
> year they were released: MT-41/1983, CZ-1000&5000/1985 and SK-1/1986
> 
> some years ago i discovered the sea of casio-keyboards (and other 
small 
> homekeyboards as well) on eBAY and started out collecting them 
tracking 
> them down mostly in Germany,UK and US ..Sweden is a f***ing desert 
when 
> it comes to these lovely casiotones from the begin of 80's, just 
ugly 
> looking plastic shit CTK and Lightkey models around in 
secondhands....
> 
> don't fall of your chairs now, i do not understand why i tell you 
what 
> i've got in my casio-chamber...but anyway here's my list.....
> 
> 2xVL-tone-1,VL-tone-5, PT-1,2xPT-20,PT-22,PT-30(incl.TA-1 cassette 
> storage interface),PT-100,MT-11,20,21,30,31,41,52,55,2x60,65,68,70, 
> 520, GZ-5......phew!.... well ok... i will keep on going........
> Casiotone 2x201,2x401,2x403,405,501,3x701,1000P and finally the 
> fantastic Casiotone 7000 ...that's it for now but i will keep on 
buying 

> until every damn corner of my apartment is filled with them :) 
> 
> what i'm hunting right now: Casiotones:101,202,320,410V,430,610,620,
> 701(velvet black),6000,6500,8000(Symphonytron 8000),M-10,VL-10,
> PT-7,PT-31,PT-50,MT-400V,SK-1,5,200
> 
> cheers you all, see you in casiotone-hell ;)
> 
> /kent in sweden
>

All of this talk reminds me of a Casio I once owned. It was a digital 
clock, calculator, stop-watch combo.  It also played tones--8 note 
octave plus one or two steps above and/or below.

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
>
> All of this talk reminds me of a Casio I once owned. It was a digital 
> clock, calculator, stop-watch combo.  It also played tones--8 note 
> octave plus one or two steps above and/or below.

Do you remember the model designation? I had something like this when
I was a kid, and I've actually been looking for one... they had a
really interesting, lo-fi sound. Plus they'd lend themselves well to
circuit-bending.

could it been a VL-tone 1 ? but that one did not have stop-watch or clock, just calculator.... maybe it's the very unusual VL-80? http://www.miniorgan.com/lib/view.php?miniorgan=2&srch=&srch_type=&sortby=5&output=7
   
  cheers....
   
  /k

westoncann <wlists@...> skrev:
  --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
>
> All of this talk reminds me of a Casio I once owned. It was a digital 
> clock, calculator, stop-watch combo.  It also played tones--8 note 
> octave plus one or two steps above and/or below.

Do you remember the model designation? I had something like this when
I was a kid, and I've actually been looking for one... they had a
really interesting, lo-fi sound. Plus they'd lend themselves well to
circuit-bending.










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I found an e-bay listing for an ad that shows the unit I had. I did a 
google search for Casio ML calculator. The e-bay listing refers to 
the ML-81, but I don't think that is the one I had.  The one I had 
looks more like the upper of the two pictured.

Try this link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Casio-ML-81-Calculator-Vintage-
Ad_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ13586QQitemZ7125799277QQrdZ1

If that doesn't work, try Item # 7125799277

If that doesn't work, try searching e-bay for 1980 Casio ML-81 
Calculator Vintage Ad.

-Steve



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "westoncann" <wlists@...> wrote:
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> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> 
wrote:
> >
> > All of this talk reminds me of a Casio I once owned. It was a 
digital 
> > clock, calculator, stop-watch combo.  It also played tones--8 
note 
> > octave plus one or two steps above and/or below.
> 
> Do you remember the model designation? I had something like this 
when

> I was a kid, and I've actually been looking for one... they had a
> really interesting, lo-fi sound. Plus they'd lend themselves well to
> circuit-bending.
>

Found a better picture.  The ML-81 looks like the obe I had. See:

http://www.retrogames.co.uk/stock/html/calculators.html

Hello, I can't find a sysex editor for my cz 101 with Windows XP, does someone help me?
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Last I heard, for non-commericial use midi-ox was free. With it, you 
can edit any sysex.

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does someone help me?
>   Thanks
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Hi all,


I started in 1991 with a CZ-101 that I fastly sold to buy a CZ-5000 
with a real 5 octaves keyboard. I replaced it in 1998 by a CZ-1 that 
I always own. I had a FZ-1 between 1992 and 1994, easy to use but the 
only 2 mega ram was a problem for me and I bought a S1000 and then a 
S1100. 

I like my CZ-1 and the PD sound, between FM and analog...

Laurent