Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

hi everyone, i just got a cz3000 the other day and it is my first experience of synthesis which is quite exciting. i make dance music mostly and have in the 2 days i have owned the synth i found some pretty nice sounds coming out of the machine! i am looking forward to learning how to use the cz properly and attain the sounds that i want to get from it.  if anyone could suggest a good patch editor i would be really grateful and i am also having problems triggering 2 different voices at once using my sequencer (cakewalk). if anyone could give me  a step by step guide to using the multi-timbral triggering that would be very useful. i have selected the m.mode for the voice and pressed the 'solo' button so the light is on then set the channels for 2 differnet voices but the channels of both voices stay the same. if anyone could help me to do this i would be very appreciative.
thanks
ali


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Hi Ali,

You asked about an editor: 

If you are using PC or Mac: go to a music retailer that sells emagic 
software. Ask for a demo version of Sound Diver. This is free. The 
only buts are: *You can't build up a patch library that's storable in 
your computer, because you can't save patches in the program.*Midi- 
out terminates after 30minutes so you have to restart the program to 
keep going. *if you decide you like the software its a little costly. 

However, its still very useable: * It has a good graphic interface *it 
will send sound parameters to your CZ just fine. * when an edited 
sound is sitting in your CZ's temporary memory you can then save it 
manually and fill your CZ up with patches, no problem. *there are 
editing interfaces in Sound Diver for many other synths as well.

So, your available library will be limited to the 32 patches you store 
in your CZ. I don't mind this too much as I find when I gain 
experience editing on a synth, I start remembering how to set up my 
most favoured patches from scratch. Also, I often work with a bank of 
sounds for a period of time time and then deliberately erase them so 
that I can move on to new things...

Another possibility is to find a cheap Atari computer (or maybe an 
emulator for PC??). There are some very usable (ie: as good as Sound 
Diver) Atari CZ editor/librarian programs available at Tim's Atari 
Midi World site for free. 

Regards 
Adam

And then if you have a MIDI dump utility running, just in case,
it's easy to create and save as many libraries as you want.


psychotropicsounds@... wrote:

> However, its still very useable: * It has a good graphic interface *it
> will send sound parameters to your CZ just fine. * when an edited
> sound is sitting in your CZ's temporary memory you can then save it
> manually and fill your CZ up with patches, no problem. *there are
> editing interfaces in Sound Diver for many other synths as well.
> 
> So, your available library will be limited to the 32 patches you store
> in your CZ.

sorry for my continuing ignorance but what is a midi dump utility? if anyone 
could reccommend a midi dump utlity and tell me what it is i would be 
grateful
thanks for everyone's help so far,
cheers,
ali

>From: Maxim Potekhin <maxim.potekhin@...>
>Reply-To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: new user/"free editor"
>Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:20:24 -0400
>
>And then if you have a MIDI dump utility running, just in case,
>it's easy to create and save as many libraries as you want.
>
>
>psychotropicsounds@... wrote:
>
> > However, its still very useable: * It has a good graphic interface *it
> > will send sound parameters to your CZ just fine. * when an edited
> > sound is sitting in your CZ's temporary memory you can then save it
> > manually and fill your CZ up with patches, no problem. *there are
> > editing interfaces in Sound Diver for many other synths as well.
> >
> > So, your available library will be limited to the 32 patches you store
> > in your CZ.
>
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alistair colling wrote:

> 
> sorry for my continuing ignorance but what is a midi dump utility? if anyone
> could reccommend a midi dump utlity and tell me what it is i would be
> grateful
> thanks for everyone's help so far,
> cheers,
> ali
>

I found that Mark Glinsky's CZ Start Up Kit is the best thing you can 
do.  You get about 2,750 patches plus manuals and "zen" CZ philosphy 
for $20!  Can't beat this deal anywhere!!  And I mean it!  And I'm 
NOT Mark Glinsky!  Find the kit on Ebay...

--- In CZsynth@y..., "alistair colling" <acolling@h...> wrote:
> hi everyone, i just got a cz3000 the other day and it is my first 
experience of synthesis which is quite exciting. i make dance music 
mostly and have in the 2 days i have owned the synth i found some 
pretty nice sounds coming out of the machine! i am looking forward to 
learning how to use the cz properly and attain the sounds that i want 
to get from it.  if anyone could suggest a good patch editor i would 
be really grateful and i am also having problems triggering 2 
different voices at once using my sequencer (cakewalk). if anyone 
could give me  a step by step guide to using the multi-timbral 
triggering that would be very useful. i have selected the m.mode for 
the voice and pressed the 'solo' button so the light is on then set 
the channels for 2 differnet voices but the channels of both voices 
stay the same. if anyone could help me to do this i would be very 
appreciative.

> thanks
> ali
> 
> 
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