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2001-10-16 by msg@matucana.de
hello cz-fans, sometimes ebay is really valuable. i just got an almost brand new CZ-1! just checked the sounds - all the presets are still in place. unbelievable. yes, and it only cost $110. incredible - lucky me :-) hellmuth
2001-10-17 by Atom 'Smasher'
> sometimes ebay is really valuable. i just got an almost brand new CZ-1! > just checked the sounds - all the presets are still in place. unbelievable. > yes, and it only cost $110. incredible - lucky me :-) ============================== congrats..... was that the one in peurto rico? with a memory card? actually, with the CZ-1, you can program sounds into all 64 locations, and still recall the factory sounds. i don't have the manual in front of me, and i never have much reason to do it, but it can be done. ...atom ----------------Void-If-Detached---------------- http://smasher.suspicious.org/fs1r Yamaha FS1R "What luck for rulers, that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler
2001-10-17 by Furman, Jon W.
Wow...that's a good deal, this will be the best $110 synth you've ever bought!! I paid $300 for mine back in the mid 90s and I thought that was a good deal.
-----Original Message----- From: msg@... [SMTP:msg@...] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:05 PM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: [CZsynth] cz-1 hello cz-fans, sometimes ebay is really valuable. i just got an almost brand new CZ-1! just checked the sounds - all the presets are still in place. unbelievable. yes, and it only cost $110. incredible - lucky me :-) hellmuth Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=168643.1620686.3205344.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170503214 4:HM/A=799560/R=2/*http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?overstock3+shop ping:dmad/M=168643.1620686.3205344.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705032144:HM/A=799 560/R=3/1003273436+http://us.rmi.yahoo.com/rmi/http://www.overstock.com/rmi- framed-url/http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi%3Fcid=12715 http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=168643.1620686.3205344.1261774/D=egroupmail /S=1705032144:HM/A=799560/rand=163226623 <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=168643.1620686.3205344.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=1705032144:HM/A=799560/rand=163226623> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
2001-10-17 by Troy C
I can't keep this one to myself... Back in 1995 I was in Sam Ash in New York and a dude walked in trying to sell his CZ-1, but apparently they had a lot of used gear in stock and they didn't wanna take anything that they could get big money for, so they wouldn't take it. I overheard the conversation that the guy with the CZ was having with the salesman, so I offered to buy it from him. The guy was looking to sell it for $100 with a Casio hard case. I asked him "Well, how do I know it works?" He said "It works" I asked the salesman if I could just plug the keyboard in to see if it worked, but the salesman refused, so I told the guy I couldn't buy it (I would never buy anything from someone who just walked of the streets of NYC with out at least pluging it in) Apparently the guy was desperate to sell the CZ-1, because he said "Ok you can have it for 40 bucks." So I bought it, took it home and pluged it in...it worked perfectly, looked brand new without a scratch, AND came with a case.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Furman, Jon W. [mailto:jfurman@...] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:40 AM > To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com' > Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 > > > Wow...that's a good deal, this will be the best $110 synth > you've ever bought!! I paid $300 for mine back in the mid 90s > and I thought that was a good deal. > > -----Original Message----- > From: msg@... [SMTP:msg@...] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:05 PM > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [CZsynth] cz-1 > > hello cz-fans, > > sometimes ebay is really valuable. i just got an almost > brand new CZ-1! > just checked the sounds - all the presets are still in > place. unbelievable. > yes, and it only cost $110. incredible - lucky me :-) > > hellmuth > >
2001-10-17 by msg@matucana.de
hi, > Apparently the guy was desperate to sell the CZ-1, because he said "Ok > you can have it for 40 bucks." > So I bought it, took it home and pluged it in...it worked perfectly, > looked brand new without a scratch, AND came with a case. yes, that's very cool. BTW: it's not easy to find a cz-1... they are quite rare, now. anyway, i'll never sell mine even if they turn cult and cost $1000 (remember the roland tr-808 hype - ridiculous!). hellmuth
2001-10-17 by jwp
hellmuth wrote: "anyway, i'll never sell [my cz-1] even if they turn cult and cost $1000 (remember the roland tr-808 hype - ridiculous!). All we need for that to happen is for some new genre of music to be built around some Casio CZ patch. The Lately Bass patch for FMs, the "hoover" patch for Junos; each defined a genre of music. What would a good CZ patch be to build a new musical genre around? Suggestions? How about one of those silly CZ cat "meow" patches? The genre could be "MeowCore" or "Cat-Hop." -- Jeremy
2001-10-17 by Chewy Squid
already been done. the organ patch on the cz101 was used by doug lazy and lots of other hip hop and house people. the cz bass was used by a lot of R&B people (and has been documented)... the thing which will prevent the cz series from acheiving 909 like price and status is the fact that it is "just a(nother) CASIO" in most peoples minds. plus, i have heard that casio has a habit of getting rid of parts only 2 or 3 years after they discontinue items. i wonder what i will do when my VZ craps out! things to think about. :( meowcore. now thats a good idea.
----- Original Message -----
From: jwp
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
hellmuth wrote:
"anyway, i'll never sell [my cz-1] even if they turn cult and cost $1000
(remember the roland tr-808 hype - ridiculous!).
All we need for that to happen is for some new genre of music to be built
around some Casio CZ patch. The Lately Bass patch for FMs, the "hoover"
patch for Junos; each defined a genre of music. What would a good CZ patch
be to build a new musical genre around? Suggestions?
How about one of those silly CZ cat "meow" patches? The genre could be
"MeowCore" or "Cat-Hop."
-- Jeremy
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2001-10-18 by Furman, Jon W.
Wow talk about a lucky deal, $40 is almost free! The CZ-1 is a very high quality synth too. It's not toyish at all with velocity and a dynamic DCW. The other CZ's were cool especially for the $ but they didn't go all the way feature wise. The CZ-1 however does.
-----Original Message----- From: Troy C [SMTP:troycrom@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:41 PM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 I can't keep this one to myself... Back in 1995 I was in Sam Ash in New York and a dude walked in trying to sell his CZ-1, but apparently they had a lot of used gear in stock and they didn't wanna take anything that they could get big money for, so they wouldn't take it. I overheard the conversation that the guy with the CZ was having with the salesman, so I offered to buy it from him. The guy was looking to sell it for $100 with a Casio hard case. I asked him "Well, how do I know it works?" He said "It works" I asked the salesman if I could just plug the keyboard in to see if it worked, but the salesman refused, so I told the guy I couldn't buy it (I would never buy anything from someone who just walked of the streets of NYC with out at least pluging it in) Apparently the guy was desperate to sell the CZ-1, because he said "Ok you can have it for 40 bucks." So I bought it, took it home and pluged it in...it worked perfectly, looked brand new without a scratch, AND came with a case. > -----Original Message----- > From: Furman, Jon W. [mailto:jfurman@...] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:40 AM > To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com' > Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 > > > Wow...that's a good deal, this will be the best $110 synth > you've ever bought!! I paid $300 for mine back in the mid 90s > and I thought that was a good deal. > > -----Original Message----- > From: msg@... [SMTP:msg@...] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:05 PM > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [CZsynth] cz-1 > > hello cz-fans, > > sometimes ebay is really valuable. i just got an almost > brand new CZ-1! > just checked the sounds - all the presets are still in > place. unbelievable. > yes, and it only cost $110. incredible - lucky me :-) > > hellmuth > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=168643.1620686.3205344.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170503214 4:HM/A=799560/R=2/*http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?overstock3+shop ping:dmad/M=168643.1620686.3205344.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705032144:HM/A=799 560/R=3/1003340431+http://us.rmi.yahoo.com/rmi/http://www.overstock.com/rmi- framed-url/http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi%3Fcid=12715 http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=168643.1620686.3205344.1261774/D=egroupmail /S=1705032144:HM/A=799560/rand=137818438 <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=168643.1620686.3205344.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=1705032144:HM/A=799560/rand=137818438> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
2001-10-18 by Furman, Jon W.
I think that any distinctive popular famous Casio like sound would have to rely on the 8 stage envelope as this was one of those things that really made the CZ unique. I'm thinking of stuff like the CZ preset Ace Of Base used for the synth solo on I Saw The Sign (please don't get me wrong I'm not an Ace Of Bass fan but any band that uses the CZ like that has to have something going for them).
-----Original Message----- From: Chewy Squid [SMTP:chewysquid@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:04 PM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CZsynth] cz-1 already been done. the organ patch on the cz101 was used by doug lazy and lots of other hip hop and house people. the cz bass was used by a lot of R&B people (and has been documented)... the thing which will prevent the cz series from acheiving 909 like price and status is the fact that it is "just a(nother) CASIO" in most peoples minds. plus, i have heard that casio has a habit of getting rid of parts only 2 or 3 years after they discontinue items. i wonder what i will do when my VZ craps out! things to think about. :( meowcore. now thats a good idea. ----- Original Message ----- From: jwp To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 hellmuth wrote: "anyway, i'll never sell [my cz-1] even if they turn cult and cost $1000 (remember the roland tr-808 hype - ridiculous!). All we need for that to happen is for some new genre of music to be built around some Casio CZ patch. The Lately Bass patch for FMs, the "hoover" patch for Junos; each defined a genre of music. What would a good CZ patch be to build a new musical genre around? Suggestions? How about one of those silly CZ cat "meow" patches? The genre could be "MeowCore" or "Cat-Hop." -- Jeremy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170503214 4:HM/A=818727/R=1/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274 <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 44:HM/A=818727/R=1/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274> http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170503214 4:HM/A=818727/R=2/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274 <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 44:HM/A=818727/R=2/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274> http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupmail /S=1705032144:HM/A=818727/rand=610548556 <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=1705032144:HM/A=818727/rand=610548556> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
2001-10-18 by Atom 'Smasher'
> Wow talk about a lucky deal, $40 is almost free! The CZ-1 is a very high
> quality synth too. It's not toyish at all with velocity and a dynamic DCW.
> The other CZ's were cool especially for the $ but they didn't go all the way
> feature wise. The CZ-1 however does.
==========================================
i wouldn't say it goes all the way, but it sure goes much farther than the
other CZ-synths.
my wish list for the CZ-1 would be:
- assignable targets for the LFO
- assignable targets for the velocity & aftertouch
- real-time MIDI control of all parameters (preferably with CC, not sysex)
- an option to have one DCO FM the other DCO
- a rack version (CZ-1r ???) with 4+ outputs
anyone else have a wish list?
...atom
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> plus, i have heard that casio has a habit of getting > rid of parts only 2 or 3 years after they discontinue items. > i wonder what i will do when my VZ craps out! things to > think about. :( This is why I'm starting to stock up on my CZ/VZ gear. If I see a good price on ebay, I'll go for it. I think I only paid $80 for my last VZ-8m. Troy
2001-10-18 by Furman, Jon W.
Haha...ok you're right, it's not all the way by today's standards. But for 1986 or whenever it was that it was released it does a lot. I always wished that it would respond in real time to sysx kind of like the rolands from that time period do.
-----Original Message----- From: Atom 'Smasher' [SMTP:atom@...] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:14 AM To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 > Wow talk about a lucky deal, $40 is almost free! The CZ-1 is a very high > quality synth too. It's not toyish at all with velocity and a dynamic DCW. > The other CZ's were cool especially for the $ but they didn't go all the way > feature wise. The CZ-1 however does. ========================================== i wouldn't say it goes all the way, but it sure goes much farther than the other CZ-synths. my wish list for the CZ-1 would be: - assignable targets for the LFO - assignable targets for the velocity & aftertouch - real-time MIDI control of all parameters (preferably with CC, not sysex) - an option to have one DCO FM the other DCO - a rack version (CZ-1r ???) with 4+ outputs anyone else have a wish list? ...atom ----------------Void-If-Detached---------------- http://smasher.suspicious.org/fs1r <http://smasher.suspicious.org/fs1r> Yamaha FS1R "Destroy the family, and the society will collapse." -- Vladimir Lenin Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Click Here! <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 44:HM/A=795262/R=0/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3257> http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupmail /S=1705032144:HM/A=795262/rand=644962523 <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=1705032144:HM/A=795262/rand=644962523> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
2001-10-18 by Furman, Jon W.
I hear you. I'd like to have a few more 8m's myself to try out the link function and see how well that works.
-----Original Message----- From: Troy C [SMTP:troycrom@...] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:21 AM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 > plus, i have heard that casio has a habit of getting > rid of parts only 2 or 3 years after they discontinue items. > i wonder what i will do when my VZ craps out! things to > think about. :( This is why I'm starting to stock up on my CZ/VZ gear. If I see a good price on ebay, I'll go for it. I think I only paid $80 for my last VZ-8m. Troy To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
2001-10-18 by Chewy Squid
are you sure that was a CZ? sounded like a TG77/SY77 preset to me....
From: Furman, Jon W.
To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
I think that any distinctive popular famous Casio like sound would have to
rely on the 8 stage envelope as this was one of those things that really
made the CZ unique. I'm thinking of stuff like the CZ preset Ace Of Base
used for the synth solo on I Saw The Sign (please don't get me wrong I'm not
an Ace Of Bass fan but any band that uses the CZ like that has to have
something going for them).
-----Original Message-----
From: Chewy Squid [SMTP:chewysquid@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:04 PM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] cz-1
already been done.
the organ patch on the cz101 was used by doug lazy and lots of other
hip hop and house people. the cz bass was used by a lot of R&B people (and
has been documented)...
the thing which will prevent the cz series from acheiving 909 like
price and status is the fact that it is "just a(nother) CASIO" in most
peoples minds.
plus, i have heard that casio has a habit of getting rid of parts
only 2 or 3 years after they discontinue items. i wonder what i will do
when my VZ craps out! things to think about. :(
meowcore. now thats a good idea.
----- Original Message -----
From: jwp
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
hellmuth wrote:
"anyway, i'll never sell [my cz-1] even if they turn cult and cost
$1000
(remember the roland tr-808 hype - ridiculous!).
All we need for that to happen is for some new genre of music to
be built
around some Casio CZ patch. The Lately Bass patch for FMs, the
"hoover"
patch for Junos; each defined a genre of music. What would a good
CZ patch
be to build a new musical genre around? Suggestions?
How about one of those silly CZ cat "meow" patches? The genre
could be
"MeowCore" or "Cat-Hop."
-- Jeremy
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2001-10-18 by Chewy Squid
my main complaint about the CZ and VZ is the noise. otherwise, they are the perfect "toy" synths :) i feel sorry for people who dont take the time to program these.
----- Original Message -----
From: Furman, Jon W.
To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
Wow talk about a lucky deal, $40 is almost free! The CZ-1 is a very high
quality synth too. It's not toyish at all with velocity and a dynamic DCW.
The other CZ's were cool especially for the $ but they didn't go all the way
feature wise. The CZ-1 however does.
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy C [SMTP:troycrom@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:41 PM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
I can't keep this one to myself...
Back in 1995 I was in Sam Ash in New York and a dude walked in
trying to
sell his CZ-1, but apparently they had a lot of used gear in stock
and
they didn't wanna take anything that they could get big money for,
so
they wouldn't take it. I overheard the conversation that the guy
with
the CZ was having with the salesman, so I offered to buy it from
him.
The guy was looking to sell it for $100 with a Casio hard case. I
asked
him "Well, how do I know it works?" He said "It works"
I asked the salesman if I could just plug the keyboard in to see if
it
worked, but the salesman refused, so I told the guy I couldn't buy
it (I
would never buy anything from someone who just walked of the streets
of
NYC with out at least pluging it in)
Apparently the guy was desperate to sell the CZ-1, because he said
"Ok
you can have it for 40 bucks."
So I bought it, took it home and pluged it in...it worked perfectly,
looked brand new without a scratch, AND came with a case.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Furman, Jon W. [mailto:jfurman@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:40 AM
> To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
>
>
> Wow...that's a good deal, this will be the best $110 synth
> you've ever bought!! I paid $300 for mine back in the mid 90s
> and I thought that was a good deal.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: msg@... [SMTP:msg@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:05 PM
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CZsynth] cz-1
>
> hello cz-fans,
>
> sometimes ebay is really valuable. i just got an almost
> brand new CZ-1!
> just checked the sounds - all the presets are still in
> place. unbelievable.
> yes, and it only cost $110. incredible - lucky me :-)
>
> hellmuth
>
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2001-10-18 by Chewy Squid
how do you guys use your vz8ms? the panning feature is great but i dont have the patience to wait for sounddiver to transmit the patch every time its tweaked and i would never waste my time programming it from the front panel. this is why i prefer the vz10m.
----- Original Message -----
From: Furman, Jon W.
To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:03 AM
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
I hear you. I'd like to have a few more 8m's myself to try out the link
function and see how well that works.
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy C [SMTP:troycrom@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:21 AM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
> plus, i have heard that casio has a habit of getting
> rid of parts only 2 or 3 years after they discontinue items.
> i wonder what i will do when my VZ craps out! things to
> think about. :(
This is why I'm starting to stock up on my CZ/VZ gear. If I see a
good
price on ebay, I'll go for it. I think I only paid $80 for my last
VZ-8m.
Troy
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2001-10-18 by Furman, Jon W.
No, not only that it was a lowly CZ101 preset. Instantly recognizable to anyone who's ever owned one. I'm talking about that strange whistley sound with the weird decay (that's where the 8 stage env comes into play).
-----Original Message----- From: Chewy Squid [SMTP:chewysquid@...] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:14 AM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CZsynth] cz-1 are you sure that was a CZ? sounded like a TG77/SY77 preset to me.... From: Furman, Jon W. To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com' Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 I think that any distinctive popular famous Casio like sound would have to rely on the 8 stage envelope as this was one of those things that really made the CZ unique. I'm thinking of stuff like the CZ preset Ace Of Base used for the synth solo on I Saw The Sign (please don't get me wrong I'm not an Ace Of Bass fan but any band that uses the CZ like that has to have something going for them). -----Original Message----- From: Chewy Squid [SMTP:chewysquid@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:04 PM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CZsynth] cz-1 already been done. the organ patch on the cz101 was used by doug lazy and lots of other hip hop and house people. the cz bass was used by a lot of R&B people (and has been documented)... the thing which will prevent the cz series from acheiving 909 like price and status is the fact that it is "just a(nother) CASIO" in most peoples minds. plus, i have heard that casio has a habit of getting rid of parts only 2 or 3 years after they discontinue items. i wonder what i will do when my VZ craps out! things to think about. :( meowcore. now thats a good idea. ----- Original Message ----- From: jwp To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 hellmuth wrote: "anyway, i'll never sell [my cz-1] even if they turn cult and cost $1000 (remember the roland tr-808 hype - ridiculous!). All we need for that to happen is for some new genre of music to be built around some Casio CZ patch. The Lately Bass patch for FMs, the "hoover" patch for Junos; each defined a genre of music. What would a good CZ patch be to build a new musical genre around? Suggestions? How about one of those silly CZ cat "meow" patches? The genre could be "MeowCore" or "Cat-Hop." -- Jeremy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170503214 <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 4> 4:HM/A=818727/R=1/* http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274 <http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274> < http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 > 44:HM/A=818727/R=1/* http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274 <http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274> > http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170503214 <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 4> 4:HM/A=818727/R=2/* http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274 <http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274> < http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 > 44:HM/A=818727/R=2/* http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274 <http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3274> > http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupmail <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupmai l> /S=1705032144:HM/A=818727/rand=610548556 < http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupmai <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.1637497.3177299.1261774/D=egroupmai > l/S=1705032144:HM/A=818727/rand=610548556> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service < http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> > . To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
2001-10-18 by Furman, Jon W.
That's interesting, I use Unisyn to edit the 10m and the 8m and I haven't noticed any difference in transmission time between the 2 models. I wonder if this a Sounddiver bug.
-----Original Message----- From: Chewy Squid [SMTP:chewysquid@...] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:17 AM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CZsynth] cz-1 how do you guys use your vz8ms? the panning feature is great but i dont have the patience to wait for sounddiver to transmit the patch every time its tweaked and i would never waste my time programming it from the front panel. this is why i prefer the vz10m. ----- Original Message ----- From: Furman, Jon W. To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com' Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:03 AM Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 I hear you. I'd like to have a few more 8m's myself to try out the link function and see how well that works. -----Original Message----- From: Troy C [SMTP:troycrom@...] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:21 AM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1 > plus, i have heard that casio has a habit of getting > rid of parts only 2 or 3 years after they discontinue items. > i wonder what i will do when my VZ craps out! things to > think about. :( This is why I'm starting to stock up on my CZ/VZ gear. If I see a good price on ebay, I'll go for it. I think I only paid $80 for my last VZ-8m. Troy To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service < http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> > . To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=178320.1681224.3212089.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170503214 4:HM/A=766844/R=0/*http://www.fastweb.com/ib/yahoo-57f <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=178320.1681224.3212089.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050321 44:HM/A=766844/R=0/*http://www.fastweb.com/ib/yahoo-57f> http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=178320.1681224.3212089.1261774/D=egroupmail /S=1705032144:HM/A=766844/rand=331227470 <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=178320.1681224.3212089.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=1705032144:HM/A=766844/rand=331227470> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
2001-10-18 by Chewy Squid
i have found that the problem using any VZ with sounddiver is that every time i release a fader ive tweaked, theres a delay waiting for the whole patch to transmit before i can play the sound. for this reason i prefer to program the vz from its front panel.
----- Original Message -----
From: Furman, Jon W.
To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:21 PM
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
That's interesting, I use Unisyn to edit the 10m and the 8m and I haven't
noticed any difference in transmission time between the 2 models. I wonder
if this a Sounddiver bug.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chewy Squid [SMTP:chewysquid@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:17 AM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] cz-1
how do you guys use your vz8ms? the panning feature is great but i
dont have the patience to wait for sounddiver to transmit the patch every
time its tweaked and i would never waste my time programming it from the
front panel. this is why i prefer the vz10m.
----- Original Message -----
From: Furman, Jon W.
To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:03 AM
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
I hear you. I'd like to have a few more 8m's myself to try out the
link
function and see how well that works.
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy C [SMTP:troycrom@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:21 AM
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] cz-1
> plus, i have heard that casio has a habit of getting
> rid of parts only 2 or 3 years after they discontinue
items.
> i wonder what i will do when my VZ craps out! things to
> think about. :(
This is why I'm starting to stock up on my CZ/VZ gear. If I
see a
good
price on ebay, I'll go for it. I think I only paid $80 for
my last
VZ-8m.
Troy
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2001-10-29 by psychotropicsounds@hotmail.com
Yes, this is weird. I've had the same problem. I've been able to overcome this by not having a midi cable connected between the midi out socket on the CZ and midi in on the computer. I think what happens is that if the CZ is sending Midi to the computer, Sound Diver tries to confirm with the cz that the last data sent has been recieved. The acknowledgement exchange between sound diver and the cz is slow for some reason. If the the cz is receving midi in but not sending any out to the computer, sound diver seems to just take for granted that everything is OK and there is no hold-up and keeps on sending out patch data... Or something like that. This problem doesn't seem to happen with other editors. I favour my Atari for editing. Hope that helps. Adam --- In CZsynth@y..., "Chewy Squid" <chewysquid@h...> wrote: > i have found that the problem using any VZ with sounddiver is that every time i release a fader ive tweaked, theres a delay waiting for the whole patch to transmit before i can play the sound. for this reason i prefer to program the vz from its front panel.