From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: HI there help with SYSex on CZ5000
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 20 May, 2012, 15:19
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1. The CZ Guidebook is indeed here in the files section as a pdf. Look under CZ Docs. Its the pdf with sysex in the title.
2. A few months back as part of a dicussion on CZ sysex and midi-ox transfers, I did some testing. Evidently at one point I spelled out the steps I used because someone was claiming that two instances of midi-ox were needed. You can access the thread here:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/message/4854
3. As I recall, I did this test with patch data, not sequences. I seem to recall with cakewalk software I piled up some CZ ack commands in the transmitting sequence to get the CZ not to hang. So, if you ae trying to transfer sequences and using midi-ox, you might want to try this approach. (Again, see the CZ MIDI Guidebook.)
I'd give it a test run, but I am not set up to do anything with the CZ-5000 at the moment. If you get stuck, I can give it a try.
Hope this helps.
Steve
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
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> CZ sysex communication does not follow the same handshaking protocol everyone else uses, but its close. CZs do not send the 0x0F7 byte after every sysex message; it will do ||: data - acknowledgement :|| and will only do the 0xF7 at the end. This can cause problems for software that doesn't know about this little CZ quirk.
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> I haven't done sequence transfers with the CZ-5000 in decades, but it is pretty straight forward if you follow the CZ handshaking protocol. The CZ-5000 is always listening for incoming sysex commands but only responds to one's intended for the CZ line of synths.
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> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Forró <dan.for@> wrote:
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> > MIDI channel in SysEx file and on the instruments has to be the same.
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> > CZ synths use handshaking communication protocol normally, which means
> > data are sent in blocks (one block for one patch), after receiving
> > each patch data CZ confirms receiving.
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> > But there's a way how to do it without handshaking. See the attachment.
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> > On May 19, 2012, at 12:28 PM, cdnephew wrote:
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> > > i recently purchased a cz5000 and i love it!
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> > > but now moving on to implementing the midi side of things i am
> > > running in to a few hurdles
> > > i want to be able to send Sysex to the keyboard but i'am confused on
> > > procedure i have been sending sysex via "Sysex lib" the midi cable
> > > is sending and receiving and the keyboard is sending but do you have
> > > to put the CZ in to any mode's to listen for SYSex
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> > > also MIDIQUest and the CZ5000 not even a sausage
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> > > thanks
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