Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Hi everybody,

I was reading over the old messages on the yahoo site,
and I thought that this would be an excellent group to
join!  I got my Casio CZ-1000 off of Ebay sometime
this past fall or winter.  It's my first synth, and I
thought that it would be a good way to get some patch
programing down.  I've had mixed luck with programing
patches, most of the ones that I've made from scratch
haven't ended up working.  I've also some trouble with
the tuning of the instrument...  it seems that on the
master tune that C is too flat, and that C# is too
sharp!  Is that just me, or is anybody else
experiencing that?  I use the CZ-1000 mostly with my
band, Tomorrow's Retro Future. 
http://www.angelfire.com/art/trf   But I also use it
on my solo stuff.  I don't have any way of getting
patches from the computer onto the synth, because CZ
Librarian (mac) crashes my computer.  So, anyway, if
anybody has any cool analog or 80s sounding patches
that they have typed into their computer, I'd really
apreciate it if you could send them to me!

Nate

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Hi Nate,

At 14:13 24.04.01 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi everybody,
>
>I was reading over the old messages on the yahoo site,
>and I thought that this would be an excellent group to
>join!  I got my Casio CZ-1000 off of Ebay sometime
>this past fall or winter.  It's my first synth, and I
>thought that it would be a good way to get some patch
>programing down.  I've had mixed luck with programing
>patches, most of the ones that I've made from scratch
>haven't ended up working.  I've also some trouble with
>the tuning of the instrument...  it seems that on the
>master tune that C is too flat, and that C# is too
>sharp!  Is that just me, or is anybody else

Hmmm... haven't done this for some time, you should be able to do some fine
tuning by holding the master tune key and using the value keys. I gets
initialised when pressing master tune, up and both value keys together. At
least that's the way it works on the CZ-1...  

>experiencing that?  I use the CZ-1000 mostly with my
>band, Tomorrow's Retro Future. 
>http://www.angelfire.com/art/trf   But I also use it
>on my solo stuff.  I don't have any way of getting
>patches from the computer onto the synth, because CZ
>Librarian (mac) crashes my computer.  So, anyway, if
>anybody has any cool analog or 80s sounding patches

I have uploaded some sound files to the files section... 

Summa

			     
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+++++++/++\++/++++++\++/+++ \    /\  /\         /    O   
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 /\  /     +                  \/        \\---/ ----  |  |
/  \/      +                  /\                  /     \----
           +                 /  \                / 
           +                 Nicknames  : Summa or SumGhost
           +                 AIM        : Flotorian
           +                 Born       : 1967
           +                 Profession : Student of Computer Science
           +	                     

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Casio CZ Synth Station      : http://www.mp3.com/stations/CZ/ 

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Welcome to the CZ Nate. The CZ is an excellent synth to learn sound
programming on. It was my first synth also (way back in '85) and I still
love it. I think that the problem that you're having with tuning is because
you are actually fooling with the key transpose function. This will change
the key that the keyboard plays in, not tune the instrument. I think that
the tuning buttons are over on the upper left hand corner of the front panel
and have little up and down arrows on them. Just push one down and you'll
get a slight increment in tuning. You can also send a MIDI command to the CZ
from a PC to set the tuning. Stick with the patch programming on the CZ as
you can learn a lot on this instrument. It's kind of a cross between and
analog and a digital, programming wise, so what you learn here will apply to
a lot of other synths.  Don't get too spoiled by the 8 stage envelopes
though, most other synths don't have them. As to why that is I don't
know...I just credit it as being one of those mysteries of life....  


Jon

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	john w. [SMTP:spookytrees@...]
	Sent:	Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:14 PM
	To:	CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
	Subject:	[CZsynth] hello

	Hi everybody,

	I was reading over the old messages on the yahoo site,
	and I thought that this would be an excellent group to
	join!  I got my Casio CZ-1000 off of Ebay sometime
	this past fall or winter.  It's my first synth, and I
	thought that it would be a good way to get some patch
	programing down.  I've had mixed luck with programing
	patches, most of the ones that I've made from scratch
	haven't ended up working.  I've also some trouble with
	the tuning of the instrument...  it seems that on the
	master tune that C is too flat, and that C# is too
	sharp!  Is that just me, or is anybody else
	experiencing that?  I use the CZ-1000 mostly with my
	band, Tomorrow's Retro Future. 
	http://www.angelfire.com/art/trf   But I also use it
	on my solo stuff.  I don't have any way of getting
	patches from the computer onto the synth, because CZ
	Librarian (mac) crashes my computer.  So, anyway, if
	anybody has any cool analog or 80s sounding patches
	that they have typed into their computer, I'd really
	apreciate it if you could send them to me!

	Nate

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Wow, that was pretty foolish of me to neglect the
buttons right on the front of the keyboard panel that
say "master tune", wasn't it?!  That's very funny and
strange that I missed that.  Does anybody know why the
yahoo group homepage for this group won't let me log
in as a member?  I thought I registered, but it always
says I'm a guest and won't let me access anything on
the page.

Nate



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Does anybody know why the
> yahoo group homepage for this group won't let me log
> in as a member?  I thought I registered, but it always
> says I'm a guest and won't let me access anything on
> the page.> Nate

Hi Nate

Are you clicking on "sign in" at the top right corner each time you 
visit the CZsynth group home? Could be the reason, as you would need 
to put your profile name and password in each time you vistit the site 
to be able to post. 

Adam

I managed to get it to work now, by going to the site
through a different link.  fun fun fun.

dnftf

Nate


> Hi Nate
> 
> Are you clicking on "sign in" at the top right
> corner each time you 
> visit the CZsynth group home? Could be the reason,
> as you would need 
> to put your profile name and password in each time
> you vistit the site 
> to be able to post. 
> 
> Adam
> 
> 


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I noticed recently that when I'm programing patches
into my CZ1000 that whenever I put something into the
second occilator, that when I let up on the keys, the
sound remains on!  Nothing will stop it from being
held out until I switch either the patch that I'm
using, or change one of the settings for that patch,
but then it just does it again.  Is this something
that is supposed to happen when you have things set a
certain way, or is my second occilator just messed up?

Thanks,

Nate

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It sounds like the last stage on the DCA envelope of osc 2 is set to a decay
rate of 0. Go there and fiddle around with that envelope and I bet you'll
get it too work. A  quick way to check this is initialize this envelope by
holding down the initialize key and that envelope key at the same time. 

Jon

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	john w. [SMTP:spookytrees@...]
	Sent:	Friday, April 27, 2001 12:31 PM
	To:	CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
	Subject:	[CZsynth] 2nd occilator

	I noticed recently that when I'm programing patches
	into my CZ1000 that whenever I put something into the
	second occilator, that when I let up on the keys, the
	sound remains on!  Nothing will stop it from being
	held out until I switch either the patch that I'm
	using, or change one of the settings for that patch,
	but then it just does it again.  Is this something
	that is supposed to happen when you have things set a
	certain way, or is my second occilator just messed up?

	Thanks,

	Nate

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> does anyone know if there is a way to save over the
> presents on CZ-1000s?  i've filled up the internal
> memory, and there are some presets that i could never
> see myself using.
----------------------------------------
if you figure it out, be sure to let us know!

those sounds are stored in ROM, and i don't know any way to re-do them,
except for burning a new ROM.

	...atom

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hey guys and gals,

does anyone know if there is a way to save over the
presents on CZ-1000s?  i've filled up the internal
memory, and there are some presets that i could never
see myself using.

thanks!

nate

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NO. But uou can buy a second hand ram cartridge for
your cz1000. Store your wanted sounds in cartridge.
regards
alvaro angelo
****************
--- "john w." <spookytrees@...> wrote:
> hey guys and gals,
> 
> does anyone know if there is a way to save over the
> presents on CZ-1000s?  i've filled up the internal
> memory, and there are some presets that i could
> never
> see myself using.
> 
> thanks!
> 
> nate
> 
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> prices
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I just joined the group.  I have a CZ-1000 I bought off EBAY too.  
And the best investment I ever made for learning about the CZ is the 
CZ Starter Pack offered on Ebay.  The best $20.00 you'll ever spend, 
on the original manual and other CZ matters, plus you get about 2,750 
patches on a floppy disc.
--- In CZsynth@y..., "john w." <spookytrees@y...> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> 
> I was reading over the old messages on the yahoo site,
> and I thought that this would be an excellent group to
> join!  I got my Casio CZ-1000 off of Ebay sometime
> this past fall or winter.  It's my first synth, and I
> thought that it would be a good way to get some patch
> programing down.  I've had mixed luck with programing
> patches, most of the ones that I've made from scratch
> haven't ended up working.  I've also some trouble with
> the tuning of the instrument...  it seems that on the
> master tune that C is too flat, and that C# is too
> sharp!  Is that just me, or is anybody else
> experiencing that?  I use the CZ-1000 mostly with my
> band, Tomorrow's Retro Future. 
> http://www.angelfire.com/art/trf   But I also use it
> on my solo stuff.  I don't have any way of getting
> patches from the computer onto the synth, because CZ
> Librarian (mac) crashes my computer.  So, anyway, if
> anybody has any cool analog or 80s sounding patches
> that they have typed into their computer, I'd really
> apreciate it if you could send them to me!
> 
> Nate
> 
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Incidentally, I too have some trouble with tuning and I use a Fender 
guitar tuner to make sure my sound is in tune after I select it.--- 
In CZsynth@y..., Summa <flotorian@y...> wrote:
> Hi Nate,
> 
> At 14:13 24.04.01 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi everybody,
> >
> >I was reading over the old messages on the yahoo site,
> >and I thought that this would be an excellent group to
> >join!  I got my Casio CZ-1000 off of Ebay sometime
> >this past fall or winter.  It's my first synth, and I
> >thought that it would be a good way to get some patch
> >programing down.  I've had mixed luck with programing
> >patches, most of the ones that I've made from scratch
> >haven't ended up working.  I've also some trouble with
> >the tuning of the instrument...  it seems that on the
> >master tune that C is too flat, and that C# is too
> >sharp!  Is that just me, or is anybody else
> 
> Hmmm... haven't done this for some time, you should be able to do 
some fine
> tuning by holding the master tune key and using the value keys. I 
gets
> initialised when pressing master tune, up and both value keys 
together. At
> least that's the way it works on the CZ-1...  
> 
> >experiencing that?  I use the CZ-1000 mostly with my
> >band, Tomorrow's Retro Future. 
> >http://www.angelfire.com/art/trf   But I also use it
> >on my solo stuff.  I don't have any way of getting
> >patches from the computer onto the synth, because CZ
> >Librarian (mac) crashes my computer.  So, anyway, if
> >anybody has any cool analog or 80s sounding patches
> 
> I have uploaded some sound files to the files section... 
> 
> Summa
> 
> 			     
>            +                        
>            +                       
>            +     /\      /\         
>         /\ +  /\/  \    /  \        
> +++++++/++\++/++++++\++/+++ \    /\  /\         /    O   
>       /    \/        \/      \  /  \/  \ |   | /     |  /----
>  /\  /     +                  \/        \\---/ ----  |  |
> /  \/      +                  /\                  /     \----
>            +                 /  \                / 
>            +                 Nicknames  : Summa or SumGhost
>            +                 AIM        : Flotorian
>            +                 Born       : 1967
>            +                 Profession : Student of Computer 
Science

>            +	                     
> 
> A Touch of Future - Project : http://www.mp3.com/AToF/
> Casio CZ Synth Station      : http://www.mp3.com/stations/CZ/ 
> 
> Boycott the Premium Artist Service!!!
> 
> 
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-- In CZsynth@y..., "Atom 'Smasher'" <atom@s...> wrote:
> > does anyone know if there is a way to save over the
> > presents on CZ-1000s?  i've filled up the internal
> > memory, and there are some presets that i could never
> > see myself using.
> ----------------------------------------
> if you figure it out, be sure to let us know!
> 
> those sounds are stored in ROM, and i don't know any way to re-do 
them,
> except for burning a new ROM.
> 
> 	...atom
> 
> ----------------Void-If-Detached----------------
> http://smasher.suspicious.org/fs1r  Yamaha FS1R
> http://smasher.suspicious.org/m6    Oberheim Matrix 6
> 
> 	"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers
> exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will 
instantly
> disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarrely
> inexeplicable. There is another theory which states that this has 
already
> happened."
> 		-- Douglas Adams

-I've managed to bid on and win 3 RAM cartridges on Ebay.  Two 
MaaArtist carts. and one original RA-3 casio cart!  You'll usually 
pay over $30 for each!

-- In CZsynth@y..., ALVARO SALLES <ALVAROANGELO@y...> wrote:

> 
> NO. But uou can buy a second hand ram cartridge for
> your cz1000. Store your wanted sounds in cartridge.
> regards
> alvaro angelo
> ****************
> --- "john w." <spookytrees@y...> wrote:
> > hey guys and gals,
> > 
> > does anyone know if there is a way to save over the
> > presents on CZ-1000s?  i've filled up the internal
> > memory, and there are some presets that i could
> > never
> > see myself using.
> > 
> > thanks!
> > 
> > nate
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
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> > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great
> > prices
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> > 
> 
> 
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