2014-05-30 by jimmcrae71@...
Hi all,
looks like I'm going to have to reluctantly sell my CZ1 that has been my pride and joy since around 1986. With most things that you sell you can get indicators from the various marketplaces as to what price you should be setting - but there just aren't enough CZ1s sold to give any indication!
Can anybody give an estimate of how much a good condition Cz1 should be offered for? Or indeed any of the other CZ synths to use as a benchmark? I've not bought a keyboard since 1986, so apart from one brief period of dismay when I realised how much my old Korg MS10 would have been worth if I'd kept it, I've completely lost track of buying/selling prices for everything.
Thanks in advance
Jim
2014-05-31 by Francis Cote
Hi,
Search ebay for completed sales.
Gives an estimate. Expect a bit less on local ads, but also less problems as the buyer can inspect it. Plus, on ebay you need to pay commission, Paypal and so on. So it comes roughly about the same.
That's my 2 cents.
Francis
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On May 31, 2014 11:16 AM, "
jimmcrae71@... [CZsynth]" <
CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi all,
looks like I'm going to have to reluctantly sell my CZ1 that has been my pride and joy since around 1986. With most things that you sell you can get indicators from the various marketplaces as to what price you should be setting - but there just aren';t enough CZ1s sold to give any indication!
Can anybody give an estimate of how much a good condition Cz1 should be offered for? Or indeed any of the other CZ synths to use as a benchmark? I've not bought a keyboard since 1986, so apart from one brief period of dismay when I realised how much my old Korg MS10 would have been worth if I'd kept it, I've completely lost track of buying/selling prices for everything.
Thanks in advance
Jim
2014-05-31 by Jon Zaremba
Not too sure about the CZ1, but i paid $120 for a 101 last year, and
$160 for a 1000 last week.
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On 5/30/2014 6:38 AM, jimmcrae71@... [CZsynth] wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> looks like I'm going to have to reluctantly sell my CZ1 that has been
> my pride and joy since around 1986. With most things that you sell you
> can get indicators from the various marketplaces as to what price you
> should be setting - but there just aren't enough CZ1s sold to give any
> indication!
>
> Can anybody give an estimate of how much a good condition Cz1 should
> be offered for? Or indeed any of the other CZ synths to use as a
> benchmark? I've not bought a keyboard since 1986, so apart from one
> brief period of dismay when I realised how much my old Korg MS10 would
> have been worth if I'd kept it, I've completely lost track of
> buying/selling prices for everything.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jim
>
>
>
2014-05-31 by Jon Zaremba
Is it possible to transfer patches from one CZ to
another...directly...without using a computer or RAM cartridge?
If so....how?
Thanks,
Jon Zaremba
2014-05-31 by soundprogramer@...
Hi! Very good condition will sell about 250€. Try in this price but is possible you have to sell it in a lower price because there are no so many Casio CZ-1 sound fans around the world.
CZ-101 are more demanded due to size and caracteristic sound quality.
My personal opinion is not sell it if you can because 200€ is not so much money and the CZ1 with extenal EFX and good programming can be always and interentig resource of distintive sounds.
Rewards!
2014-05-31 by analogmonster@...
to extend Francis' point, it should be sold listings rather than just completed listings-completed listings may show the price someone hoped to sell it for but no one was willing to pay! also you've not mentioned your location, which would affect the kind of prices you could expect but I'm based in the uk so I will be talking about £ not $.
I just looked on eBay myself. looking at only fully functional ones, which may have some cosmetic damage like fader caps missing, chipped keys, no LCD backlight. the prices vary from £150 to £250. but the best looking of the lot only sold for £180 so it's not necessarily the better the quality the better the price, it's the luck of the auction. you could easily just put it on at a fixed price.
personally I use eBay a lot, both buying and selling. I buy broken synths, repair them, use them for a while then sell most of them. my own experience of selling via local ads has been bad, with people wasting my time or agreeing a price in the phone then trying to haggle the price so low it's not worth selling, plus there's no protection for buyer or seller. I had items that were almost sold a number of times that fell through. put them on eBay and they sell for more money than I had been trying to get and I don't get haggling or time wasters. so yeah my 2 cents is I find eBay a lot less hassle.
eBay is easy provided you stick to some basic rules before you sell. do a full test of every function, be 100% honest about any functional or cosmetic defects you discover, take good photos of the good bits AND defects, package items properly and use a high quality courier. the buyer can only complain if an item is not as you described. if you described it accurately and packaged it so won't get damaged in shipping then there won't be problems.
the commission is not much either. a quick test of £180 with £20 shipping would leave you with £152.35 after paying both eBay and PayPal fees, about 15%. but being on eBay opens you up to many more potential customers than doing it locally, so you could sell it to someone in not just a different part of your country but also internationally if you wanted.
On 31 May 2014, at 16:20, "Francis Cote francis.cote@spadz.com [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi,
Search ebay for completed sales.
Gives an estimate. Expect a bit less on local ads, but also less problems as the buyer can inspect it. Plus, on ebay you need to pay commission, Paypal and so on. So it comes roughly about the same.
That's my 2 cents.
Francis
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> On May 31, 2014 11:16 AM, "jimmcrae71@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> looks like I'm going to have to reluctantly sell my CZ1 that has been my pride and joy since around 1986. With most things that you sell you can get indicators from the various marketplaces as to what price you should be setting - but there just aren't enough CZ1s sold to give any indication!
>
> Can anybody give an estimate of how much a good condition Cz1 should be offered for? Or indeed any of the other CZ synths to use as a benchmark? I've not bought a keyboard since 1986, so apart from one brief period of dismay when I realised how much my old Korg MS10 would have been worth if I'd kept it, I've completely lost track of buying/selling prices for everything.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jim
2014-05-31 by w.james.meagher@...
Sadly the CZ1 is hugely undervalued these days (I could have bought a mint one for $200 last week). If it's an instrument you love I'd keep it because you'll never get a $ value for it that feels worth what you're giving up.
Do you have any overvalued synths you could sell instead?
James
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> On May 30, 2014, at 5:38, "jimmcrae71@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> looks like I'm going to have to reluctantly sell my CZ1 that has been my pride and joy since around 1986. With most things that you sell you can get indicators from the various marketplaces as to what price you should be setting - but there just aren't enough CZ1s sold to give any indication!
>
> Can anybody give an estimate of how much a good condition Cz1 should be offered for? Or indeed any of the other CZ synths to use as a benchmark? I've not bought a keyboard since 1986, so apart from one brief period of dismay when I realised how much my old Korg MS10 would have been worth if I'd kept it, I've completely lost track of buying/selling prices for everything.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
2014-05-31 by Benjamin Tucker
I agree with W. James Meagher. Checking completed auctions on Ebay, prices were from $490 (with 3 cartridges) to $152 I didn't check the shipping charges however. Don't sell what you love. Of course, I confess I am apparently unable to sell even the synths I don't love. I may have a problem!
2014-05-31 by domgoold@...
if it's space, why not swap it for a cz101 with cart ;)
with someone looking for the daddy of CZ.
i sold my cz101 quite unnecessarily - it would not have
hurt to have kept it.
(i don't know what differences are with the CZ1 btw)
2014-05-31 by Francis Cote
Nice precisions! I didn't go into detail.
I live near Montreal and selling a CZ1 for over 250$ locally... good luck.
Location is very important indeed. Here, besides a few morons here and there, selling locally is fine as long as it's clear on the listing, same as ebay. Just to make sure some ahole resellers here lurking the adds try to negotiate a stupid price so they can put it back on the same site a few days later at triple the price...
Ebay is good for that for sure.
Ebay you have nobody coming into your home, but then again I met other musicians that way... nothing is black or white isn't it? Lol
I wouldn't mind replacingy CZ1000 with a CZ1... Some day I guess.
Good luck!
CZ synths rock.
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On May 31, 2014 12:30 PM, "
analogmonster@... [CZsynth]" <
CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
to extend Francis' point, it should be sold listings rather than just completed listings-completed listings may show the price someone hoped to sell it for but no one was willing to pay! also you've not mentioned your location, which would affect the kind of prices you could expect but I'm based in the uk so I will be talking about £ not $.
I just looked on eBay myself. looking at only fully functional ones, which may have some cosmetic damage like fader caps missing, chipped keys, no LCD backlight. the prices vary from £150 to £250. but the best looking of the lot only sold for £180 so it's not necessarily the better the quality the better the price, it's the luck of the auction. you could easily just put it on at a fixed price.
personally I use eBay a lot, both buying and selling. I buy broken synths, repair them, use them for a while then sell most of them. my own experience of selling via local ads has been bad, with people wasting my time or agreeing a price in the phone then trying to haggle the price so low it's not worth selling, plus there's no protection for buyer or seller. I had items that were almost sold a number of times that fell through. put them on eBay and they sell for more money than I had been trying to get and I don't get haggling or time wasters. so yeah my 2 cents is I find eBay a lot less hassle.
eBay is easy provided you stick to some basic rules before you sell. do a full test of every function, be 100% honest about any functional or cosmetic defects you discover, take good photos of the good bits AND defects, package items properly and use a high quality courier. the buyer can only complain if an item is not as you described. if you described it accurately and packaged it so won't get damaged in shipping then there won't be problems.
the commission is not much either. a quick test of £180 with £20 shipping would leave you with £152.35 after paying both eBay and PayPal fees, about 15%. but being on eBay opens you up to many more potential customers than doing it locally, so you could sell it to someone in not just a different part of your country but also internationally if you wanted.
Hi,
Search ebay for completed sales.
Gives an estimate. Expect a bit less on local ads, but also less problems as the buyer can inspect it. Plus, on ebay you need to pay commission, Paypal and so on. So it comes roughly about the same.
That's my 2 cents.
Francis
On May 31, 2014 11:16 AM, "
jimmcrae71@... [CZsynth]" <
CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>; wrote:
Hi all,
looks like I'm going to have to reluctantly sell my CZ1 that has been my pride and joy since around 1986. With most things that you sell you can get indicators from the various marketplaces as to what price you should be setting - but there just aren't enough CZ1s sold to give any indication!
Can anybody give an estimate of how much a good condition Cz1 should be offered for? Or indeed any of the other CZ synths to use as a benchmark? I've not bought a keyboard since 1986, so apart from one brief period of dismay when I realised how much my old Korg MS10 would have been worth if I'd kept it, I've completely lost track of buying/selling prices for everything.
Thanks in advance
Jim
2014-05-31 by billbigrig@...
The CZ-1 I bought in the late 90s was $300. It was offered for $450. I called the guy in Seattle and asked, "if I drive up there right now with $300 cash in my pocket, will you sell it to me?" He said yes. I feel hat if your CZ-1 is in very good condition, you should be able to ask $500+ for it.
when in doubt, go to E-Bay and look at what that market is asking. Bottom line,,,, DON'T SELL IT! You will regret it.
Rig
2014-06-01 by Paul
I bought a CZ 1 in the Seattle area about a year ago for $125. I bought a CZ 5000 on the same day for $100 but needed to replace a key and batteries and reload patches. There's a CZ 3000 locally for $100 but it needs a key replaced. I think there's a ton of CZ s out there, maybe not so many CZ 1s but they are not fetching high prices.
Paul T
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On May 31, 2014, at 9:56 AM, "Benjamin Tucker tucker.benjamin01@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I agree with W. James Meagher. Checking completed auctions on Ebay, prices were from $490 (with 3 cartridges) to $152 I didn't check the shipping charges however. Don't sell what you love. Of course, I confess I am apparently unable to sell even the synths I don't love. I may have a problem!
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2014-06-02 by charlie midi gfa
what does the price really have to do with ?
they are rare
they are out dated .
money will not replace the cz once gone
have fun
charlie
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To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ synths market value
I bought a CZ 1 in the Seattle area about a year ago for $125. I bought a CZ
5000 on the same day for $100 but needed to replace a key and batteries and
reload patches. There's a CZ 3000 locally for $100 but it needs a key
replaced. I think there's a ton of CZ s out there, maybe not so many CZ 1s
but they are not fetching high prices.
Paul T
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On May 31, 2014, at 9:56 AM, "Benjamin Tucker tucker.benjamin01@...
[CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I agree with W. James Meagher. Checking completed auctions on Ebay,
> prices were from $490 (with 3 cartridges) to $152 I didn't check the
> shipping charges however. Don't sell what you love. Of course, I confess
> I am apparently unable to sell even the synths I don't love. I may have a
> problem!
>
>
>
2014-06-02 by nicholas dallwitz
Probably worth noting the value of these synths is only going to increase with time. They might not be entirely in fashion right now but give it a few years and I can almost guarantee they will become the vintage collectors items they deserve to be!
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paul.krull@... [CZsynth]
<CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I bought a CZ 1 in the Seattle area about a year ago for $125. I bought a CZ 5000 on the same day for $100 but needed to replace a key and batteries and reload patches. There's a CZ 3000 locally for $100 but it needs a key replaced. I think there's a ton of CZ s out there, maybe not so many CZ 1s but they are not fetching high prices.
Paul T
Sent from my iPhone
I agree with W. James Meagher. Checking completed auctions on Ebay, prices were from $490 (with 3 cartridges) to $152 I didn't check the shipping charges however. Don't sell what you love. Of course, I confess I am apparently unable to sell even the synths I don't love. I may have a problem!
2014-06-02 by 350ypvs@googlemail.com
Ironically, it's the least powerful CZ, the 101, that consistently sells for the higher prices. Probably because of it's cute size and the fact that it can sound WAY more powerful than it looks. That and the fact that most home musicians have space issues, and it fits into a bedroom studio a lot more easily than the full size CZ's!
I agree with Nicholas though that the prices of all CZ's are likely to rise with time as their cult status continues to grow. I doubt they will ever get close to the retro analogue gear values, but they are very unlikely to lose value. Therefore they are a wise investment for those wanting the CZ sounds and the chance to own a unique digital synth.
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ndallwitz@... [CZsynth]
<CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Probably worth noting the value of these synths is only going to increase with time. They might not be entirely in fashion right now but give it a few years and I can almost guarantee they will become the vintage collectors items they deserve to be!
2014-06-02 by napravobg@...
While I was browsing these CZ1 posts, I followed a link to a few Cz1's on youtube, listened to some of the IPD voices again, (after all these years) , and then found the Casio XW-P1 synth, which has the original CZ1 waveshapes onboard..
Has anyone tried one / owns one? . If so comments please? ( I think with CZ waveshapes onboard, that it's not too off topic?)
The step sequencer programmable by the drawbars looks very interesting to me, and something I could easily get used to,(and which would certainly boost my creativity)
And the waveform programming for Hammond voices, again via the drawbars looks like a great traditional-type feature and very usable, and a much better and more intuitive method than incrementing numbers to program relative footages and harmonic levels.
Some of the pad voices I heard on the demos sound as if with a little more tweaking they could be amazing, and I can't understand anyone thinking this a 'beginner' synth at all.
The six oscillator monosynth feature is fairly massive (or could be). The pcm sounds might not be fantastic but they are probably useable, including the drum voices, and the whole thing would make an excellent 'scratchpad'
It seemed to me to be quite capable of creating sounds that I have never heard before, or elsewhere, although I did find most of the demos quite uninspiring and flat.
The XW-P1 is miles ahead of the 26 year old VZ1 and that was a monster when it came out, (and it still is) and IMO it was never a 'beginner' synth either.
I don't understand some of the criticisms of the XW-P1 at all, especially after hearing it, (although I really hate the orange striped top panel, and the cheap-ish display) .
However, I am very tempted, and still have a VZ10m which I think would complement it very well. The VZ10m could be input into the XW-P1 via the audio ins, and the XW-P1 could also modify the VZ10m's sounds via the XW-P1 filters, which might be interesting, and much easier than trying to emulate filters with VZ phase distortion..
any opinions folks?
richard
bg
2014-06-02 by jimmcrae71@...
Thanks for all of the replies. I had checked Ebay completed sales, but there were so few that it was difficult to get a feel for what was the going rate.shipping is complicated too though - obviously the packing is long gone and because I've never moved it I've never needed a flight case. Hopefully there are a few aspiring CZ1 owners in central Scotland.
Will be sad to see it go, but sometimes it goes more than a year without getting switched on, so it would be better in the hands of someone who really wanted it (and my fingers are too big for a CZ 101!)
2014-06-03 by Paul Krull
The Casio CZ line might be under valued at this point partially because now that folks are digging them out of storage they are finding that the back up batteries have failed, the back lights are gone and if stored with batteries the case is full of toxic caustic battery acid goo. They then balk at the needed fixes and sell cheap.
Paul T
On Monday, June 2, 2014 3:45 AM, "'350ypvs@...' 350ypvs@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
In the UK, CZ-1 prices vary quite a bit. I bought mine 3.5 years ago for £120. I've seen tatty examples with issues go for as low as £60 or so, and this very clean example (below) sold yesterday for £181.66
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171338897032?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
And here's one currently for sale for £285 BIN:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLAGSHIP-CASIO-CZ1-SYNTHESISER-/291156981155?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Keyboard_RL&hash=item43ca4ef5a3
Ironically, it's the least powerful CZ, the 101, that consistently sells for the higher prices. Probably because of it's cute size and the fact that it can sound WAY more powerful than it looks. That and the fact that most home musicians have space issues, and it fits into a bedroom studio a lot more easily than the full size CZ's!
I agree with Nicholas though that the prices of all CZ's are likely to rise with time as their cult status continues to grow. I doubt they will ever get close to the retro analogue gear values, but they are very unlikely to lose value. Therefore they are a wise investment for those wanting the CZ sounds and the chance to own a unique digital synth.
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>Probably worth noting the value of these synths is only going to increase with time. They might not be entirely in fashion right now but give it a few years and I can almost guarantee they will become the vintage collectors items they deserve to be!
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>On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Paul paul.krull@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>I bought a CZ 1 in the Seattle area about a year ago for $125. I bought a CZ 5000 on the same day for $100 but needed to replace a key and batteries and reload patches. There's a CZ 3000 locally for $100 but it needs a key replaced. I think there's a ton of CZ s out there, maybe not so many CZ 1s but they are not fetching high prices.
>>Paul T
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>>Sent from my iPhone
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>>On May 31, 2014, at 9:56 AM, "Benjamin Tucker tucker.benjamin01@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>I agree with W. James Meagher. Checking completed auctions on Ebay, prices were from $490 (with 3 cartridges) to $152 I didn't check the shipping charges however. Don't sell what you love. Of course, I confess I am apparently unable to sell even the synths I don't love. I may have a problem!
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2014-06-04 by tucker.benjamin01@...
There may be a renewed interest in the CZs because of a growing appreciation of the unique aspects of phase distortion synthesis.
Urs Heckman of U-He software has long been an early Casio admirer. His latest soft synth, Bazille, soon to be released but already available (?), is modular but, among many other aspects, offers:
4 oscillators with simultaneous FM, PD (phase distortion) and FR (fractal resonance)Bazille Bazille u-he synthesizers and effects
Preview by Yahoo
I am not a "shill" and haven't bought it (yet) or even tried the demo but I do like the U-He synths!
2014-06-04 by Benjamin Tucker
I recently bought a really fine, almost unused, CZ1000.
It had what I assume are the original batteries in it: National Hi-top (Matsushita Electric). One had gone bad and leaked a little but apparently no damage was done.
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On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Paul Krull
paul.krull@... [CZsynth]
<CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
The Casio CZ line might be under valued at this point partially because now that folks are digging them out of storage they are finding that the back up batteries have failed, the back lights are gone and if stored with batteries the case is full of toxic caustic battery acid goo. They then balk at the needed fixes and sell cheap.
Paul T
Ironically, it's the least powerful CZ, the 101, that consistently sells for the higher prices. Probably because of it's cute size and the fact that it can sound WAY more powerful than it looks. That and the fact that most home musicians have space issues, and it fits into a bedroom studio a lot more easily than the full size CZ's!
I agree with Nicholas though that the prices of all CZ's are likely to rise with time as their cult status continues to grow. I doubt they will ever get close to the retro analogue gear values, but they are very unlikely to lose value. Therefore they are a wise investment for those wanting the CZ sounds and the chance to own a unique digital synth.
On 2 June 2014 04:38, nicholas dallwitz
ndallwitz@... [CZsynth]
<CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Probably worth noting the value of these synths is only going to increase with time. They might not be entirely in fashion right now but give it a few years and I can almost guarantee they will become the vintage collectors items they deserve to be!
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Paul
paul.krull@yahoo.com [CZsynth]
<CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I bought a CZ 1 in the Seattle area about a year ago for $125. I bought a CZ 5000 on the same day for $100 but needed to replace a key and batteries and reload patches. There's a CZ 3000 locally for $100 but it needs a key replaced. I think there's a ton of CZ s out there, maybe not so many CZ 1s but they are not fetching high prices.
Paul T
Sent from my iPhone
I agree with W. James Meagher. Checking completed auctions on Ebay, prices were from $490 (with 3 cartridges) to $152 I didn't check the shipping charges however. Don't sell what you love. Of course, I confess I am apparently unable to sell even the synths I don't love. I may have a problem!
2014-06-04 by webform@...
I think the CZ range will remain relatively obscure. If you didn't use (and like using one) in the 80's, then I can't imagine too many synth folk are going to go out of their way to pick one up. There just isn't the awareness.
As a digital synth, it will always struggle with "vintage" appeal. I see 106's listed for AUD1400 regularly (assuming all of their voice chips are still going!), whereas CZ-1's won't sell @ AUD400 (I keep seeing the same ones come up again on Gumtree).
I paid around AUD800 for my CZ-1 new in late '88 (had been on the shelf for a while, so got it at a better price), but there's no way it would sell for that now. Even with a clean/backlight replacement/new battery.
I think if you are interested in picking one up, go for the CZ-1 as this will give you velocity and aftertouch, as well as 8 voices which can be divided up across up to 8 channels.
I still regret selling my CZ-101 though!
Regards,
JPS
2014-06-04 by James Meagher
Sometimes I think the lack of interest in early digital synths is simply because most people don't believe there's any difference between them and software synths - so why buy the problem prone 30 year old synth when you have any number of soft-synths at your disposal. It9;s simple to fathom that digitally emulated analogue doesn't sound like real vintage analogue, but a bit more of an ask to fathom that digitally emulated digital doesn't sound like vintage digital. There are some who realize (and care) that FM8 doesn't sound like a DX7, but they are few . . . and general old and grumpy. ;)
If those making synthy sounds realize PlastiCZ doesn't quite sound like a CZ-1 will the value of CZs finally rise? I doubt it. I think soft synths will have improved to a point of true faithful emulation before that ever happens.
Jimmy
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webform@... [CZsynth]
<CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I think the CZ range will remain relatively obscure. If you didn't use (and like using one) in the 80's, then I can't imagine too many synth folk are going to go out of their way to pick one up. There just isn't the awareness.
As a digital synth, it will always struggle with "vintage" appeal. I see 106's listed for AUD1400 regularly (assuming all of their voice chips are still going!), whereas CZ-1's won't sell @ AUD400 (I keep seeing the same ones come up again on Gumtree).
I paid around AUD800 for my CZ-1 new in late '88 (had been on the shelf for a while, so got it at a better price), but there's no way it would sell for that now. Even with a clean/backlight replacement/new battery.
I think if you are interested in picking one up, go for the CZ-1 as this will give you velocity and aftertouch, as well as 8 voices which can be divided up across up to 8 channels.
I still regret selling my CZ-101 though!
Regards,
JPS
2014-06-08 by soundprogramer@...
Which model are we talking about? If you refer to the CZ-101, 3000, 5000, 1000 the response
is no. You need external Midi interface to do so.
Rewards!