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VZ1 Casio ...help?

VZ1 Casio ...help?

2016-10-05 by jasmin.veljkovic2207@...

Hello.
Im the owner of vz1 keyboard...and I dont know enything about this keyboard...
Im just intested are any souds for eastern europe,or arabic/greece ? Im asking that because im playing yu folk music from balkan (bosnia,serbia,macedonia)
Is it possible to manually change sound,and save it?
Thank you :-)

Re: [CZsynth] VZ1 Casio ...help?

2016-10-05 by Daniel Forró

Hi, Jasmin,

why not to read Owner's Manual to learn something about the  
instrument? Start with it. If you haven't manual, you can download it  
from the net. You can find also some sound sets in MID or SYX format.

Of course you can program your own sounds, save them in instrument  
memory, on RAM card or in the computer. You must to learn something  
about the iPD synthesis.

I doubt somebody did such special sounds you need for Balkan music on  
this instrument. I know only about such sounds for CZ series, you can  
easily google it, there are dedicated pages for such music. Some  
famous and excellent Balkan musicians used CZ101.
To some degree it would be possible to convert them for VZ, if  
somebody has enough knowledge about differences between PD and iPD  
synthesis.

Anyway I don't think this is the best solution, and the best way how  
to get good emulations.
Better to buy a special Oriental instrument dedicated for this type of  
music and based on samples of real acoustic instruments. Yamaha,  
Roland, Korg, GEM .... produced such instruments. You can set even  
micro intervals (quarter tones) necessary for Turkish or Arabian music.

Good luck!

Daniel Forro

On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:31 AM, jasmin.veljkovic2207@... [CZsynth]  
wrote:
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> Hello.
> Im the owner of vz1 keyboard...and I dont know enything about this  
> keyboard...
> Im just intested are any souds for eastern europe,or arabic/greece ?  
> Im asking that because im playing yu folk music from balkan  
> (bosnia,serbia,macedonia)
> Is it possible to manually change sound,and save it?
> Thank you :-)

Re: [CZsynth] VZ1 Casio ...help?

2016-10-05 by RAM

....... Or Technics did these Turkish/Arabian biased music arrangers .....


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> On 5 Oct 2016, at 03:02, Daniel Forró danforcz@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Jasmin,
>
> why not to read Owner's Manual to learn something about the
> instrument? Start with it. If you haven't manual, you can download it
> from the net. You can find also some sound sets in MID or SYX format.
>
> Of course you can program your own sounds, save them in instrument
> memory, on RAM card or in the computer. You must to learn something
> about the iPD synthesis.

>
> I doubt somebody did such special sounds you need for Balkan music on
> this instrument. I know only about such sounds for CZ series, you can
> easily google it, there are dedicated pages for such music. Some
> famous and excellent Balkan musicians used CZ101.
> To some degree it would be possible to convert them for VZ, if
> somebody has enough knowledge about differences between PD and iPD
> synthesis.
>
> Anyway I don't think this is the best solution, and the best way how
> to get good emulations.
> Better to buy a special Oriental instrument dedicated for this type of
> music and based on samples of real acoustic instruments. Yamaha,
> Roland, Korg, GEM .... produced such instruments. You can set even
> micro intervals (quarter tones) necessary for Turkish or Arabian music.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Daniel Forro
>
> On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:31 AM, jasmin.veljkovic2207@... [CZsynth]
> wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> > Im the owner of vz1 keyboard...and I dont know enything about this
> > keyboard...
> > Im just intested are any souds for eastern europe,or arabic/greece ?
> > Im asking that because im playing yu folk music from balkan
> > (bosnia,serbia,macedonia)
> > Is it possible to manually change sound,and save it?
> > Thank you :-)
>
>

Re: [CZsynth] VZ1 Casio ...help?

2016-10-06 by jasmin.veljkovic2207@...

Hello
Thank you on your answer.
The point is that I already have instrument of that kind of type,but that is not the sound from vz
I know that some of the best sounds came from vz..
Im just courious.Is it possible to load cz sounds on vz1?
Thank you

Re: [CZsynth] VZ1 Casio ...help?

2016-10-12 by 350ypvs@googlemail.com

No, you cannot load CZ sounds into a VZ. Though the VZ uses an evolved form of the CZ's Phase Distortion, the format is completely different and not compatible with CZ patches (and nor is the CZ able to load VZ patches).
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On 6 October 2016 at 03:58, jasmin.veljkovic2207@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hello

Thank you on your answer.
The point is that I already have instrument of that kind of type,but that is not the sound from vz
I know that some of the best sounds came from vz..
Im just courious.Is it possible to load cz sounds on vz1?
Thank you


Re: [CZsynth] VZ1 Casio ...help?

2016-10-12 by Daniel Forró


On Oct 6, 2016, at 11:58 AM, jasmin.veljkovic2207@yahoo.com [CZsynth] wrote:

I know that some of the best sounds came from vz..

If they came from VZ, then they were programmed for VZ and not for CZ. So don't talk about CZ sounds and find or get or buy those VZ sounds you mentioned and you like. It must be possible to get more info about them, who made them, or if they are somewhere on the web for free download... As far as I know they were some sound designers in Balkan countries making sounds for folk music and national pop, and offering them commercially. Search in native languages (Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Makedonian, Albanian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Manush/Gipsy, Greek, Turkish...). There are servers offering such sounds. I have found and visited some of them.

Im just courious.Is it possible to load cz sounds on vz1?

Not directly, data format is different. But because CZ sounds have generally more simple structure then VZ sounds, it should be possible to convert approximately CZ sounds to VZ sound, or emulate them on VZ. But of course, it means also that not all features of VZ architecture will be used.

Daniel Forro

Re: VZ1 Casio ...help?

2017-02-12 by smw-mail@...

In addition to the resources at the excellet site Steve mentioned, check out the files in this Yahoo! group as well as the overflow group at: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CZ-VZ-Files/files/VZ%20-%20Sounds/

As for storability, yes--you can create patches and save them in the VZ line as well as transfer them between the VZ and a computer via sysex (system exclusive) data dumps.

As for sounds of ethnic instruments,keep in mind the VZ is a synth as opposed to either a sampler or a rompler. The latter two can play back digitized samples of actual acoustic ethnic instruments. With the sampler, you can but sample libraries (such as E-Mu's Old World Instrument CD set, among others). With the VZ synth engine the closest you can come is electronic simulations.

Since you already have the VZ, I strongly encourage you to get the various sysex banks as mentioned above to see if there there are sounds that will serve your needs.

Steve (a different Steve)

Re: VZ1 Casio ...help?

2017-02-12 by smw-mail@...

Footnote: One VZ user created an on-line VZ editor. If you get into editing your own VZ patches, you might be interested in it.

Re: [CZsynth] Re: VZ1 Casio ...help?

2017-02-12 by Tom Green

And the link please?
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On 2/12/17, smw-mail@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Footnote: One VZ user created an on-line VZ editor. If you get into editing
> your own VZ patches, you might be interested in it.

Re: [CZsynth] Re: VZ1 Casio ...help?

2017-03-02 by Tom Green

Cool.  Thank you!


Tom
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On 3/1/17, smw-mail@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> http://vz.cain-project.com/VZEdit.html
> http://vz.cain-project.com/VZEdit.html
>
> I found it by searching the group for VZ editor.  Here are two links that
> have posts about the editor.
>
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CZsynth/conversations/topics/41
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CZsynth/conversations/topics/41
>
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CZsynth/conversations/messages/6425
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CZsynth/conversations/messages/6425
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Steve

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