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2002-06-19 by aaron_jasinski2001
has any of you Fz10, 10m users noticed that the Absynth virtual synth is fundementally very similar?? I have just recently started programming bpm/rhythmic type patches on my VZ10m and man.. its cool.. i am continually amazed.
2002-06-20 by Furman, Jon W.
The bpm/rhythmic type sound idea sounds cool but how do you time it? I always wished for some kind of translation from envelope time/level values to real values as I always had a very hard time programming stuff like that by ear. What approach do you take to it? Jon
-----Original Message----- From: aaron_jasinski2001 [mailto:aaron@...] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:55 PM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: [CZsynth] fz10- interesting note has any of you Fz10, 10m users noticed that the Absynth virtual synth is fundementally very similar?? I have just recently started programming bpm/rhythmic type patches on my VZ10m and man.. its cool.. i am continually amazed. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2002-06-20 by aaron_jasinski2001
well i havn't got it translated to an actual 'bpm'... just timing it internally.. I set the envelope time values to divisions of them selves.. example.. t1=99 t2=50 t3=99 t4=50 t5=99 t6=25 etc. interesting to note that the same number setting per envelope DON't really sync up with each module... weird eh? hm. but its pretty cool result regardless. --- In CZsynth@y..., "Furman, Jon W." <jfurman@t...> wrote: > The bpm/rhythmic type sound idea sounds cool but how do you time it? I > always wished for some kind of translation from envelope time/level values > to real values as I always had a very hard time programming stuff like that
> by ear. What approach do you take to it? > > > > Jon > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aaron_jasinski2001 [mailto:aaron@a...] > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:55 PM > To: CZsynth@y... > Subject: [CZsynth] fz10- interesting note > > > > has any of you Fz10, 10m users noticed that the Absynth virtual > synth is fundementally very similar?? > > I have just recently started programming bpm/rhythmic type > patches on my VZ10m and man.. its cool.. i am continually > amazed. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > CZsynth-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2002-06-20 by Furman, Jon W.
Yeah those kinds of sounds are fun to do but I always ran into trouble when I tried to synch them up to a sequencer. I try to adjust the tempo by ear to the sound but it always winds up deviating after a few beats. Too bad the VZ does have MIDI syncable LFO's or something, that would be cool.
-----Original Message----- From: aaron_jasinski2001 [mailto:aaron@...] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:13 PM To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10- interesting note well i havn't got it translated to an actual 'bpm'... just timing it internally.. I set the envelope time values to divisions of them selves.. example.. t1=99 t2=50 t3=99 t4=50 t5=99 t6=25 etc. interesting to note that the same number setting per envelope DON't really sync up with each module... weird eh? hm. but its pretty cool result regardless. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2002-06-22 by aaron_jasinski2001
that would be very cool. What I will probably end up doing is sampling those sounds and then just looping them.. --- In CZsynth@y..., "Furman, Jon W." <jfurman@t...> wrote: > Yeah those kinds of sounds are fun to do but I always ran into trouble when > I tried to synch them up to a sequencer. I try to adjust the tempo by ear to > the sound but it always winds up deviating after a few beats. Too bad the VZ > does have MIDI syncable LFO's or something, that would be cool.
> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aaron_jasinski2001 [mailto:aaron@a...] > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:13 PM > To: CZsynth@y... > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10- interesting note > > > > well i havn't got it translated to an actual 'bpm'... just timing it > internally.. I set the envelope time values to divisions of them > selves.. example.. t1=99 t2=50 t3=99 t4=50 t5=99 t6=25 etc. > > interesting to note that the same number setting per envelope > DON't really sync up with each module... weird eh? hm. but its > pretty cool result regardless. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2002-06-22 by Mike Weston
Hi, inspired by that question I\ufffdm working for years with a math-formula to calculate exactly the loop-samples for desired beats per minute (Bpm)! At first you have to know what frequenzy your sampler working with. I possess a Roland sampler S330 which works with 30.000Hz and 15.000Hz (In my formula I call it SR(Hz)). But my creation works with any kinds of values: (1.) Bpm ---- = Bsek 60 (2.) SR(Hz) ------ = SMLL/4 Bsek Note: "SMLL/4" is the sample measure-loop lenght (not a timeline!) of a quarter beat, so you have to multiply it with 4 when your song is written in 4/4 time measure!!! Greets MIKE <tt> that would be very cool.<BR> <BR> What I will probably end up doing is sampling those sounds and <BR> then just looping them..<BR> <BR> --- In CZsynth@y..., "Furman, Jon W." <jfurman@t...> wrote:<BR> > Yeah those kinds of sounds are fun to do but I always ran into <BR> trouble when<BR> > I tried to synch them up to a sequencer. I try to adjust the tempo <BR> by ear to<BR> > the sound but it always winds up deviating after a few beats. <BR> Too bad the VZ<BR> > does have MIDI syncable LFO's or something, that would be <BR> cool.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > -----Original Message-----<BR> > From: aaron_jasinski2001 [mailto:aaron@a...] <BR> > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:13 PM<BR> > To: CZsynth@y...<BR> > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10- interesting note<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > well i havn't got it translated to an actual 'bpm'... just timing it <BR> > internally.. I set the envelope time values to divisions of them <BR> > selves.. example.. t1=99 t2=50 t3=99 t4=50 t5=99 t6=25 etc.<BR> > <BR> > interesting to note that the same number setting per envelope <BR> > DON't really sync up with each module... weird eh? hm. but its <BR> > pretty cool result regardless.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <tt> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<BR> CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <br> <tt>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.</tt> </br> </body></html> __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! pr\ufffdsentiert als offizieller Sponsor das Fu\ufffdball-Highlight des Jahres: - http://www.FIFAworldcup.com
2002-06-23 by Carlos Morra
What\ufffds the meaning og \ufffdBsek\ufffd?? --- Mike Weston <radiomicky@...> wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> Hi,<BR> <BR> inspired by that question I\ufffdm working for years with a<BR> math-formula to calculate exactly the loop-samples for<BR> desired beats per minute (Bpm)!<BR> At first you have to know what frequenzy your sampler<BR> working with. I possess a Roland sampler S330 which<BR> works with 30.000Hz and 15.000Hz (In my formula I call<BR> it SR(Hz)). But my creation works with any kinds of<BR> values:<BR> <BR> (1.)<BR> <BR> Bpm<BR> ---- = Bsek<BR> 60<BR> <BR> (2.)<BR> <BR> SR(Hz)<BR> ------ = SMLL/4<BR> Bsek<BR> <BR> Note:<BR> "SMLL/4" is the sample measure-loop lenght (not a<BR> timeline!) of a quarter beat, so you have to multiply<BR> it with 4 when your song is written in 4/4 time<BR> measure!!!<BR> <BR> Greets<BR> MIKE<BR> <BR> <tt><BR> that would be very cool.<BR><BR> <BR><BR> What I will probably end up doing is sampling those<BR> sounds and <BR><BR> then just looping them..<BR><BR> <BR><BR> --- In CZsynth@y..., "Furman, Jon W."<BR> <jfurman@t...> wrote:<BR><BR> > Yeah those kinds of sounds are fun to do but I<BR> always ran into <BR><BR> trouble when<BR><BR> > I tried to synch them up to a sequencer. I try to<BR> adjust the tempo <BR><BR> by ear to<BR><BR> > the sound but it always winds up deviating after<BR> a few beats. <BR><BR> Too bad the VZ<BR><BR> > does have MIDI syncable LFO's or something, that<BR> would be <BR><BR> cool.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > -----Original Message-----<BR><BR> > From: aaron_jasinski2001 [mailto:aaron@a...] <BR><BR> > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:13 PM<BR><BR> > To: CZsynth@y...<BR><BR> > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10- interesting note<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > well i havn't got it translated to an actual<BR> 'bpm'... just timing it <BR><BR> > internally.. I set the envelope time values to<BR> divisions of them <BR><BR> > selves.. example.. t1=99 t2=50 t3=99 t4=50 t5=99<BR> t6=25 etc.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > interesting to note that the same number setting<BR> per envelope <BR><BR> > DON't really sync up with each module... weird<BR> eh? hm. but its <BR><BR> > pretty cool result regardless.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > [Non-text portions of this message have been<BR> removed]<BR><BR> <BR><BR> </tt><BR> <BR> <BR> <br><BR> <tt><BR> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<BR><BR> CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<BR><BR> <BR><BR> </tt><BR> <br><BR> <BR> <br><BR> <tt>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a<BR> href="<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a>">Yahoo! Terms<BR> of Service</a>.</tt><BR> </br><BR> <BR> </body></html><BR> <BR> <BR> __________________________________________________________________<BR> <BR> Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - <a href="http://mail.yahoo.de">http://mail.yahoo.de</a><BR> Yahoo! pr\ufffdsentiert als offizieller Sponsor das Fu\ufffdball-Highlight des<BR> Jahres: - <a href="http://www.FIFAworldcup.com">http://www.FIFAworldcup.com</a><BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size="-1" color=#003399><b>Yahoo! Groups Sponsor</b></font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacaaing=0> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/M=178320.2150041.3600347.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=1705032144:HM/A=979989/R=0/*http://www.fastweb.com/ib/yahoo-79f"><img src="http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/fa/fastweb/300x250.gif" alt="" width="300" height="250" border="0"></a></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1 src="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=178320.2150041.3600347.1829184/D=egroupmail/S=1705032144:HM/A=979989/rand=971558724"></td></tr> </table> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <br> <tt> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<BR> CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <br> <tt>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.</tt> </br> </body></html> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
2002-06-24 by aaron_jasinski2001
crap. i just realize my initial post i was calling it an FZ10, Really I meant a VZ10... curse those names! :) --- In CZsynth@y..., "Furman, Jon W." <jfurman@t...> wrote: > Yeah those kinds of sounds are fun to do but I always ran into trouble when > I tried to synch them up to a sequencer. I try to adjust the tempo by ear to > the sound but it always winds up deviating after a few beats. Too bad the VZ > does have MIDI syncable LFO's or something, that would be cool.
> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aaron_jasinski2001 [mailto:aaron@a...] > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:13 PM > To: CZsynth@y... > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10- interesting note > > > > well i havn't got it translated to an actual 'bpm'... just timing it > internally.. I set the envelope time values to divisions of them > selves.. example.. t1=99 t2=50 t3=99 t4=50 t5=99 t6=25 etc. > > interesting to note that the same number setting per envelope > DON't really sync up with each module... weird eh? hm. but its > pretty cool result regardless. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2002-06-24 by Maxim Potekhin
aaron_jasinski2001 wrote: > > crap. i just realize my initial post i was calling it an FZ10, Really I > meant a VZ10... curse those names! :) I'm no longer sure if we can take your info for its face value. Maybe you meant Z-1, or Prophet-10. We could spend years duscussing envelopes for a different machine :) Maxim
2002-06-25 by radiomicky
--- In CZsynth@y..., Carlos Morra <carlos_morra@y...> wrote: > What´s the meaning og ¨Bsek¨?? > it means "Beats per second" (sorry I´m german and we say sekunden!) > > --- Mike Weston <radiomicky@y...> wrote: > > <HR> > <html><body> > > > <tt> > Hi,<BR> > <BR> > inspired by that question I´m working for years with > a<BR> > math-formula to calculate exactly the loop-samples > for<BR> > desired beats per minute (Bpm)!<BR> > At first you have to know what frequenzy your > sampler<BR> > working with. I possess a Roland sampler S330 > which<BR> > works with 30.000Hz and 15.000Hz (In my formula I > call<BR> > it SR(Hz)). But my creation works with any kinds > of<BR> > values:<BR> > <BR> > (1.)<BR> > <BR> > Bpm<BR> > ---- = Bsek<BR> > 60<BR> > <BR> > (2.)<BR> > <BR> > SR(Hz)<BR> > ------ = SMLL/4<BR> > Bsek<BR> > <BR> > Note:<BR> > "SMLL/4" is the sample measure-loop lenght > (not a<BR> > timeline!) of a quarter beat, so you have to > multiply<BR> > it with 4 when your song is written in 4/4 time<BR> > measure!!!<BR> > <BR> > Greets<BR> > MIKE<BR> > <BR> > <tt><BR> > that would be very cool.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > What I will probably end up doing is sampling > those<BR> > sounds and <BR><BR> > then just looping them..<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > --- In CZsynth@y..., "Furman, Jon > W."<BR> > <jfurman@t...> wrote:<BR><BR> > > Yeah those kinds of sounds are fun to do but > I<BR> > always ran into <BR><BR> > trouble when<BR><BR> > > I tried to synch them up to a sequencer. I > try to<BR> > adjust the tempo <BR><BR> > by ear to<BR><BR> > > the sound but it always winds up deviating > after<BR> > a few beats. <BR><BR> > Too bad the VZ<BR><BR> > > does have MIDI syncable LFO's or something, > that<BR> > would be <BR><BR> > cool.<BR><BR> > > <BR>;<BR> > > <BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > -----Original Message-----<BR><BR> > > From: aaron_jasinski2001 [mailto:aaron@a...] > <BR><BR> > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:13 > PM<BR><BR> > > To: CZsynth@y...<BR><BR> > > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: fz10- interesting > note<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > well i havn't got it translated to an > actual<BR> > 'bpm'... just timing it <BR><BR> > > internally.. I set the envelope time values > to<BR> > divisions of them <BR><BR> > > selves.. example.. t1=99 t2=50 t3=99 t4=50 > t5=99<BR> > t6=25 etc.<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > interesting to note that the same number > setting<BR> > per envelope <BR><BR> > > DON't really sync up with each module... > weird<BR> > eh? hm. but its <;BR><BR> > > pretty cool result regardless.<BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > <BR>;<BR> > > <BR><BR> > > <BR><BR> > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been<BR> > removed]<BR><BR> > <;BR><BR> > </tt><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <br><BR> > <tt><BR> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to:<BR><BR> > CZsynth-unsubscribe@y...<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > </tt><BR> > <br><BR> > <BR> > <br><BR> > <tt>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <a<BR> > href="<a > href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/te rms/</a>">Yahoo! > Terms<BR> > of Service</a>.</tt><BR> > </br><BR> > <BR> > </body></html><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > __________________________________________________________________<BR> > <BR> > Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - <a > href="http://mail.yahoo.de">http://mail.yahoo.de</a><BR> > Yahoo! präsentiert als offizieller Sponsor das > Fußball-Highlight des<BR> > Jahres: - <a > href="http://www.FIFAworldcup.com">http://www.FIFAworldcup.com</a><BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size="-1" > color=#003399><b>Yahoo! Groups Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td align=center width=470><table border=0 > cellpadding=0 cellspacaaing=0> > <tr> > <td align=center><font face=arial > size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a > href="http://rd.yahoo.com/M=178320.2150041.3600347.1829184/D=egroupweb /S=1705032144:HM/A=979989/R=0/*http://www.fastweb.com/ib/yahoo- 79f"><img > src="http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/fa/fastweb/300x250.gif" > alt="" width="300" height="250" border="0"></a></td> > </tr> > </table></td> > </tr> > <tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1 > src="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l? M=178320.2150041.3600347.1829184/D=egroupmail/S=1705032144:HM/A=979989 /rand=971558724"></td></tr>
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