Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Hi Iain,

Thanks, ok. So sounds like it's an issue if you're making live program changes (either manually or via a sequencer) in that it won't make independent changes without defaulting to 'start' again (ie bouncing out of combo mode)?  But if you pre-program the patch, it's fine...is that about right?

Confusing one there. And I think it could be fixed with an os update but as the rack polyevolver isn't supported anymore, I wonder if there ever would be an os update for it at this point?

Thanks again for everyone's response,

Bill


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Iain Bryden" <ibryden@...> wrote:
>
> Sure Bill.
> 
>  
> 
> The PER manual states that Poly Evolvers used in combo mode are like
> having four Mono Evolvers. This implies that we can assign four parts to
> their own midi channel then make independent program changes on each
> channel, just like every other multitimbral synth on the planet. This is
> not what happens. When you send a program change from a sequencer to one
> of the channels, the main patch changes and you are often taken out of
> combo mode. The only way to use Combo mode with a song is to save a
> combo patch with the four parts set to the programs you want. This is an
> annoyance if you prefer to assign patch changes from a sequencer. You
> may have a different methodology when creating music so it may not be a
> problem for you.
> 
>  
> 
> -- Iain
> 
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of prof_lofi
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:23 PM
> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: getting more out of the mono desktop evolver
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Hi Iain,
> 
> Do you mind going into more detail about the prob's with how combo mode
> was used? I'd really appreciate it as it's so hard to tell without
> having one to mess around with.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bill
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> , "Iain Bryden" <ibryden@>
> wrote:
> >
> > After buying an Evolver Desktop I went on to buy a Mono Evolver
> Keyboard
> > and loved it so much that I bought a Poly Evolver Rack. I sold the
> Rack
> > because Combo mode was so poorly implemented that I decided to get
> other
> > gear instead. I still have the EVO and the MEK.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Before I sold the PER I used it for a project. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Check out "Henchmen Suite" (3rd piece down). Synth parts are almost
> all
> > Evolver. Percussion parts are from Spectrasonics Stylus RMX.
> > 
> > http://obelus.com/music/film.asp <http://obelus.com/music/film.asp> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > -- Iain
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > On Behalf Of prof_lofi
> > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:39 AM
> > To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>
> 
> > Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: getting more out of the mono desktop evolver
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > thanks everyone for your posts...will be looking into this and
> > considering new ideas...selling tons of gear (well, not tons but i
> never
> > sell anything) to buy new toys...thinking, in a while, about trying to
> > find a poly evolver rack...i'm sure i'm amongst the 1000's that use
> the
> > genetic algorithms to begin building new patches, but i'd be really
> > interested to hear some random genetic hits from a poly just to hear
> how
> > much more complicated they might be...my work is experimental, but
> with
> > a fairly heavy sound design element, so the poly is interesting in
> that
> > respect...no need for a keyboard though...has anyone made the jump and
> > found it to be hugely rewarding, or just a bit more rewarding? <sigh>
> > money!
> > 
> > bill
> > 
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dale Kay" <dale@> wrote:
> > >
> > > sorry if this posts twice or more, yahoo likes to ignor my posts a
> lot
> > > 
> > > I use a sub mixer for that.
> > > 
> > > here is my normal route for feed back in
> > > synth to sub mixer
> > > sub mixer channel to patch panel
> > > patch panel to any effect, pedal and so on
> > > output back to sub mixer
> > > sub mixer back to synth(s) or to patch panel again to multiple
> synths
> > > 
> > > I have several synths that can feedback in and use it many different
> > ways
> > > and I do not just use the output from the synth, I might effect it
> in
> > > various ways which
> > > I need to watch the levels ... I often do not just work with one
> synth
> > but
> > > several
> > > and I often record each level (clean, effect one, effect two if in a
> > chain)
> > > as a separate track too to toy with in the mix
> > > that is why I have 3 patch panels, I can do that at each stage
> > > "think modular"
> > > 
> > > my end results are more often used with the tracks you hear at the
> > links
> > > below
> > > never sure what one might call what I do ... ;-)
> > > 
> > > sub mixer I use is a Rolls RM 203, I have 2 of those
> > > a 24 channel main mixer too, sub channels get tasked around as well
> > > patch panels are AP , 3 of them, 24 ports each
> > > effects? hard and soft, even the line 6 gear box DI, nada is not
> toyed
> > with
> > > even a mike to a speaker then feed back in ...
> > > 
> > > some things that seem to work nice, having a 31 stereo band eq
> > > or a good parametric, you can really then find the band you want to
> > toy with
> > > and filter out the rest
> > > the bbe green screamer, the ADA flanger, the Roland V-wah ... etc
> ...
> > > filter queen, killer eq (electrix)
> > > 
> > > PEK here and the SE P'08 ...
> > > 
> > > latest crazy things, using FM8 with them
> > > 
> > > dale
> > > 
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