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Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-20 by Ronald

Hi,

I've been experimenting with the Evolver and a Machinedrum for an 
easy setup wich i can use in my Live set. (Mix it with a RS7000)
The results are better than expexted and i guess it will also work 
with other sequencers so that's why i post it here also:

Set the Machinedrum as master and slave the Evolver.(midi clock in)
Set the Trigger Select on the Evolver on MSR (combo mode 2)
Set Evolver on channel 16
Place on track 16 of the MD a midimachine chan. 16
Than place a note on the first step of track 16 (MD)
Program this step with parameter locks:
- Pitch for the pitch of the Evolver. (NOTE)
- Program change voor the pattern of the Evolver.(PCHG)

Results:
When you change pattern on the MD the Evolver will also change 
pattern exact at the beginning of the pattern without glitches or 
sync problems.(the evolver will always be retriggering the sequencer 
(MSR) so it will keep in pace with the MD)
When you program more steps on track 16 with other pitches you can 
make the sequences play on different transpose value's.
When you place steps on even steps you can even make the sequences 
shift in time.
The MD also has another advantage: The program change is send only 
once so you can switch programs on the Evolver untill you find a nice 
one, than you proram this number in the step on the MD to lock it in 
for automatic selection when you change patterns.

I played a lot with this setup yesterday and it worked perfect.
I didn't have to touch the Evolver so i could focus on the MD.
I changed al lot of patterns on the MD and the evolver changed 
patterns with it exactly as i wanted.
When i muted track 16 the MD the Evolver mutes too!(MSR setting)
You can tweak the evolver if you want, it won't be reset by the 
program change.

Enjoy!
Grtz. Ronald. (Roonan)

Re: Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-20 by Miles Bader

Hmmm, kind of makes sense that D.S. knows how to do MIDI well!

[... but I did find a very slight `bug' in the E's MIDI impl. --
disabling program changes doesn't disable bank changes, which can yield
very odd results...]

-Miles
-- 
"I distrust a research person who is always obviously busy on a task."
   --Robert Frosch, VP, GM Research

Re: [Evolver] Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-20 by styrofoam

i've also been preparing a live setup with the evolver - i'm syncing 
the evolver to a G4 powerbook running ableton live. then from the 
evolver's midi thru it goes to the adrenalinn which also syncs to the 
same midi clock signal. very clean syncing and changing patterns 
manually on the fly is no problem at all. i can even route tracks from 
ableton live to the evolver's audio inputs for processing...  after 
playing with only a powerbook for the last year or so it's such a 
relief to have some more knobs to turn...

arne
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On vrijdag, jun 20, 2003, at 09:12 Europe/Brussels, Ronald wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've been experimenting with the Evolver and a Machinedrum for an
> easy setup wich i can use in my Live set. (Mix it with a RS7000)
> The results are better than expexted and i guess it will also work
> with other sequencers so that's why i post it here also:

Re: [Evolver] Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-20 by Ronald

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, styrofoam <styrofoam@p...> wrote:
> the evolver to a G4 powerbook running ableton live..........
> very clean syncing and changing patterns manually on the fly is no 
problem at all. 

I have found my solution but for other users, can you explain how you 
switch patterns without timing problems?
This should be a problem because the Evolver switches immediatly 
instead of waiting for the start of a next measure.
The Evolver keeps synced but the relative position shifts.

Can you send midi notes from Ableton wich you than use as (re-)
triggers for the sequencer?

GRtz. Ronald

Re: [Evolver] Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-20 by peter sedin

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?? (evolver got no wait/cue or something)

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Re: Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-23 by Miles Bader

peter sedin <midihooker@...> writes:
> HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?? (evolver got no wait/cue or something)

Huh?

Are you under the impression that every sequencer has such a feature?

-Miles
-- 
Is it true that nothing can be known?  If so how do we know this?  -Woody Allen

Re: [Evolver] Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-23 by Ronald

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, peter sedin <midihooker@y...> 
wrote:
> HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?? (evolver got no wait/cue or something)


Thought I was clear about that in message: 1219 

The trick is, the Evolver gets a trigger (=sequencer restart) from a 
midi note wich at the same time switches the pattern.
This way a new pattern always starts exactly where you want it.
So you do not switch patterns with the program knob on the evolver 
(wich will not work nicely like you mentioned) but with a program 
change from another sequencer at position 1.1.000 and than you place 
a midi note at the same position wich acts as trigger.

Grtz. Ronald

Re: [Evolver] Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-23 by scd

op 23-06-2003 08:46 schreef Ronald op info@...:

Slimme truuk Ronald! :-))

Boele
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--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, peter sedin
wrote:
> HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?? (evolver got no wait/cue or something)


Thought I was clear about that in message: 1219

The trick is, the Evolver gets a trigger (=sequencer restart) from a
midi note wich at the same time switches the pattern.
This way a new pattern always starts exactly where you want it.
So you do not switch patterns with the program knob on the evolver
(wich will not work nicely like you mentioned) but with a program
change from another sequencer at position 1.1.000 and than you place
a midi note at the same position wich acts as trigger.

Grtz. Ronald


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Re: [Evolver] Re: Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-23 by peter sedin

--- Miles Bader <miles@...> wrote:
> peter sedin <midihooker@...> writes:
> > HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?? (evolver got no wait/cue or
> something)
> 
> Huh?
> 
> Are you under the impression that every sequencer
> has such a feature?
> 
> -Miles

my impression is that every drumachine/mpc 2000 etc
got it;)

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Re: Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-24 by Miles Bader

peter sedin <midihooker@...> writes:
> my impression is that every drumachine/mpc 2000 etc got it;)

Yeah, but the E's not a drum machine, not even close really...

I think it's closer in style to a modular synth with an analogue sequencer.

-Miles
-- 
I have seen the enemy, and he is us.  -- Pogo

Re: [Evolver] Re: Evolver Live use, pattern switching.

2003-06-24 by peter sedin

--- Miles Bader <miles@...> wrote:
> peter sedin <midihooker@...> writes:
> > my impression is that every drumachine/mpc 2000
> etc got it;)
> 
> Yeah, but the E's not a drum machine, not even close
> really...
> 
> I think it's closer in style to a modular synth with
> an analogue sequencer.
> 
that is true..its like having a laptop doepfersystem:)


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