Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

hi.
i nead advice on what synth to buy.
for the same ammount of money i got a virus(b) rack, or a waldorf xt.
i listen to virus and the sound from that synth is amazing!
but it has no knobs like xt got plenty of.
but i use soundiver for all my gear exept evolver.
i also use stepsequesers for all my gear so the send realtime messages from 
xt..wont be that missed..
so what it comes down to is the sound..
virus got 24bit and xt has 20bit..
any knowledge/thoughts is mush welcome.
peace out
peter

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "peter" <midihooker@y...> wrote:
> hi.
> i nead advice on what synth to buy.
> for the same ammount of money i got a virus(b) rack, or a waldorf 
xt.
> i listen to virus and the sound from that synth is amazing!
> but it has no knobs like xt got plenty of.
> but i use soundiver for all my gear exept evolver.
> i also use stepsequesers for all my gear so the send realtime 
messages from 
> xt..wont be that missed..
> so what it comes down to is the sound..
> virus got 24bit and xt has 20bit..
> any knowledge/thoughts is mush welcome.
> peace out
> peter

Hi Peter!

They are very different sounding synths. The Virus series is VA, the 
XT is Wavetable. The XT can do some nice VA style sounds, but the 
Virus is much better with a broader sound pallet in that department. 
The XT can do some very unique distorted wavetable type sounds that 
are very unique and inspiring. 

If you already have several VA synths (I can't remember what you 
have) then the XT might be an interesting choice for you. If you are 
looking for the big VA sound that the Virus can do then the XT 
probably is not a very good choice for you. 

The Virus you are talking about is the 1U version, not the Virus b 
tabletop, right? I suggest you consider the tabletop Virus b version 
over the 1U rack. The interface really does make a huge difference 
in using the synth. 

Sayer

Whatever U do, peter, don't buy the XT.  Much like Clavia with the 
Nord Modular, Waldorf discontinued the XT's in favor of the Q's, and 
with this the manufacture of all parts for the XT.  My XT blew a 
circuit board 6 weeks after I bought it, and it's been sitting in a 
repair shop now for 5 months waiting for a circuit board that may or 
may not appear from herr motherland.  No word from W as to when It'll 
get fixed (but they sent me a "loaner" Q Rack for my trouble--GREAT 
customer support.)  So stick with the Virus, or check out the Q rack, 
for it has nice wavetable parameters and a PPG Wave LP filter to 
boot. Jimbo

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "peter" <midihooker@y...> wrote:
> hi.
> i nead advice on what synth to buy.
> for the same ammount of money i got a virus(b) rack, or a waldorf 
xt.
> i listen to virus and the sound from that synth is amazing!
> but it has no knobs like xt got plenty of.
> but i use soundiver for all my gear exept evolver.
> i also use stepsequesers for all my gear so the send realtime 
messages from 

> xt..wont be that missed..
> so what it comes down to is the sound..
> virus got 24bit and xt has 20bit..
> any knowledge/thoughts is mush welcome.
> peace out
> peter

--- Sayer <Sayer@...> wrote:
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "peter"
> <midihooker@y...> wrote:
> > hi.
> > i nead advice on what synth to buy.
> > for the same ammount of money i got a virus(b)
> rack, or a waldorf 
> xt.
> > i listen to virus and the sound from that synth is
> amazing!
> > but it has no knobs like xt got plenty of.
> > but i use soundiver for all my gear exept evolver.
> > i also use stepsequesers for all my gear so the
> send realtime 
> messages from 
> > xt..wont be that missed..
> > so what it comes down to is the sound..
> > virus got 24bit and xt has 20bit..
> > any knowledge/thoughts is mush welcome.
> > peace out
> > peter
> 
> Hi Peter!
> 
> They are very different sounding synths. The Virus
> series is VA, the 
> XT is Wavetable. The XT can do some nice VA style
> sounds, but the 
> Virus is much better with a broader sound pallet in
> that department. 
> The XT can do some very unique distorted wavetable
> type sounds that 
> are very unique and inspiring. 
> 
> If you already have several VA synths (I can't
> remember what you 
> have) then the XT might be an interesting choice for
> you. If you are 
> looking for the big VA sound that the Virus can do
> then the XT 
> probably is not a very good choice for you. 
> 
> The Virus you are talking about is the 1U version,
> not the Virus b 
> tabletop, right? I suggest you consider the tabletop
> Virus b version 
> over the 1U rack. The interface really does make a
> huge difference 
> in using the synth. 
> 
> Sayer
> 
hi sayer.
ye but the pricediffrence is almoust 100% form rack to
tabletop.
you can get a rack for 750euro and a table to cost the
double.
and im a big friend of soundiver.
i think i will go for the virus
peace
peter




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On samedi, sep 13, 2003, at 10:26 Europe/Paris, peter sedin wrote:

> hi sayer.
> ye but the pricediffrence is almoust 100% form rack to
> tabletop.
> you can get a rack for 750euro and a table to cost the
> double.
> and im a big friend of soundiver.
> i think i will go for the virus
> peace
> peter

If you are talking about older Virus rack, I think it is a cut down 
version of Virus b.  Less note polyphony, 2 osc instead of 3, etc..  
May still be a cool synth, but you might want to check the comparison 
chart before you head to a store.

http://www.access-music.de/comparisonchart.php4

Good luck!


-Yutaka

--- Yutaka Nakamura <liquidbrain@...> wrote:
> 
> On samedi, sep 13, 2003, at 10:26 Europe/Paris,
> peter sedin wrote:
> 
> > hi sayer.
> > ye but the pricediffrence is almoust 100% form
> rack to
> > tabletop.
> > you can get a rack for 750euro and a table to cost
> the
> > double.
> > and im a big friend of soundiver.
> > i think i will go for the virus
> > peace
> > peter
> 
> If you are talking about older Virus rack, I think
> it is a cut down 
> version of Virus b.  Less note polyphony, 2 osc
> instead of 3, etc..  
> May still be a cool synth, but you might want to
> check the comparison 
> chart before you head to a store.
> 
> http://www.access-music.de/comparisonchart.php4
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
hi Yutaka:)
its a virus classic rack.
yupp it has only 16part poly and two osc per voice..
but multitimbral 8parts. and as many
filters/waveforms(64) as the big brothers..and the
sound..its amazing!
why are they sooo expensive!!
peace
peter

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--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, peter sedin <midihooker@y...> 
wrote:

> hi sayer.
> ye but the pricediffrence is almoust 100% form rack to
> tabletop.
> you can get a rack for 750euro and a table to cost the
> double.

Peter -

Where do you live that prices are so high. Here in the US you can 
get a used Virus b for $750. Are you getting these price quotes from 
a dealer, because they sound very high. Have you checked online 
classifieds in your part of the world?

Hope you find what you are loking for!

Sayer

i live in sweden were we have a 25% VAT on EVERYTHING
and 25% taxes on what we make.
so i order from germany..but still have to pay 25%
VAT.
a virus classic rack here in sweden cost 1100euro in
germany 799 euro.
i just orderd a virus rack.
tell you what i think when i get it.
peace
peter

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