Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

seriously. everyone who wants to control their evolver externally using just
hardware - get a peavey PC1600 or PC1600x off ebay. The PC1600 patch set is
even available online so you don't even have to program the damn thing
yourself!

these modern controllers are great for CCs, because they are designed to
work as a part of a computer setup, with modern softsynths that have a GUI
where the knobs then SUPPLEMENT the GUI. You assign CCs using a GUI, and
then knob away... sysex isn't even part of the picture. in some cases its
tacked on as an afterthought, but usually in a very limited way, as you've
all seen.


reasons to buy a PC1600 just for your evolver:
it exists right now.
it's available right now.
it works right now.
It's made of solid bloody metal and will never break.
it's not even that expensive (compared to an evolver, and to what I paid for
my PC1600x years ago... :-)




julian


----- Original Message ----- 

From: "justmullaya" <justmull@...>
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [Evolver] Novation Controller


> Hang on everyone before you go out and buy a novation controller for
> your evolver!!
> I spent about four hours trying to program a remote 25 to work with my
> mono evolver - and nearly had it - but in the end it didn't work.
> It came down to the fact that to control the evolver parameters you
> need to be able to include the parameter value twice in the sysex -
> once in the LS nibble and once in the MS nibble. But the Remote 25 only
> allows you to specify the parameter value once in it's Sysex strings. I
> tried everything but the closest I got was parameters on the evolver
> going from like 70-90 and then jumping back down to 70 again and other
> erratic behaviour. What a shame as they are nice controllers!
>
>
>

Thanks JuJu,

Has anyone looked into using a microkorg or PhatBoy?







--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "mr julian" <jujulilianan@w...> 
wrote:
> 
> seriously. everyone who wants to control their evolver externally 
using just
> hardware - get a peavey PC1600 or PC1600x off ebay. The PC1600 
patch set is
> even available online so you don't even have to program the damn 
thing
> yourself!
> 
> these modern controllers are great for CCs, because they are 
designed to
> work as a part of a computer setup, with modern softsynths that 
have a GUI
> where the knobs then SUPPLEMENT the GUI. You assign CCs using a 
GUI, and
> then knob away... sysex isn't even part of the picture. in some 
cases its
> tacked on as an afterthought, but usually in a very limited way, as 
you've
> all seen.
> 
> 
> reasons to buy a PC1600 just for your evolver:
> it exists right now.
> it's available right now.
> it works right now.
> It's made of solid bloody metal and will never break.
> it's not even that expensive (compared to an evolver, and to what I 
paid for
> my PC1600x years ago... :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> julian
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "justmullaya" <justmull@f...>
> To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 3:00 PM
> Subject: [Evolver] Novation Controller
> 
> 
> > Hang on everyone before you go out and buy a novation controller 
for
> > your evolver!!
> > I spent about four hours trying to program a remote 25 to work 
with my
> > mono evolver - and nearly had it - but in the end it didn't work.
> > It came down to the fact that to control the evolver parameters 
you
> > need to be able to include the parameter value twice in the 
sysex -
> > once in the LS nibble and once in the MS nibble. But the Remote 
25 only
> > allows you to specify the parameter value once in it's Sysex 
strings. I
> > tried everything but the closest I got was parameters on the 
evolver
> > going from like 70-90 and then jumping back down to 70 again and 
other

> > erratic behaviour. What a shame as they are nice controllers!
> >
> >
> >

On 5/2/05, aaron_bliss <aaron_bliss@...> wrote:
> Has anyone looked into using a microkorg or PhatBoy?

Er, the microkorg doesn't have any knobs to speak of (and not much keyboard)!

-Miles
-- 
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

Miles Bader wrote:
> On 5/2/05, aaron_bliss <aaron_bliss@...> wrote:
> 
>>Has anyone looked into using a microkorg or PhatBoy?
> 
> 
> Er, the microkorg doesn't have any knobs to speak of (and not much keyboard)!
> 
> -Miles


I think he means microKontrol

hey aaron.

> Has anyone looked into using a microkorg or PhatBoy?
> 
http://www.keyfax.com/keyfax/phatboy/phatboy1.html
30 seconds of reading the phatboy website says no.

http://www.korg.co.uk/support_list/support_list.asp?productCode=pk_microkontrol
you'll have to read about the microcontrol yourself.... I bet it'll be
no too.


oh yeah - I think the kenton control freak is also likely to be able to
program the evolver... they're pretty flexible sysex-wise.... and a lot
better supported by their manufacturer than the PC1600. build quality is
a bit shabby though. kenton gear always looks a bit like a home project
to me.



julian

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http://bleepin.com

I have a kenton "spin doctor" and I was able to get it to control my
evolver without a problem. It is extreemly flexable and programmable
as far as sysex is concerned. I agree it doesn't look so great but I
think the construction quality is good ... at least it is in a metal
case. I think the "control freak" is programmable in the same way so
I'm sure it would work well with the evolver too.

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Julian" <jujulilianan@w...> wrote:
> 
> hey aaron.
> 
> > Has anyone looked into using a microkorg or PhatBoy?
> > 
> http://www.keyfax.com/keyfax/phatboy/phatboy1.html
> 30 seconds of reading the phatboy website says no.
> 
>
http://www.korg.co.uk/support_list/support_list.asp?productCode=pk_microkontrol

> you'll have to read about the microcontrol yourself.... I bet it'll be
> no too.
> 
> 
> oh yeah - I think the kenton control freak is also likely to be able to
> program the evolver... they're pretty flexible sysex-wise.... and a lot
> better supported by their manufacturer than the PC1600. build quality is
> a bit shabby though. kenton gear always looks a bit like a home project
> to me.
> 
> 
> 
> julian
> 
> -- 
> http://bleepin.com