Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

You don't tell us what output level you are using., which is the most 
important thing.  If you have it set at 100 that will explain it. The evo 
has a lot of volume and distorts easily. I normally run the output at no 
more than 39, if you still have clipping at this level I'd suspect a fault

Richard

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "colpaertpeter" <therealcolpaertpeter@...>
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:13 PM
Subject: [Evolver] Strange overload fx-input


> Hello
>
> Here's another newbie and proud owner of a evolver.Just now,I've
> started using my evolver as a fx-unit.Very nice,BUT.....I work with
> an
> audio patchbay before all my audio signals go into my mixer.So when I
> divert my audio from my soundcart (echo 24) straight into my
> evolver,the sound clips all the time,even if I put my input gain as
> low
> as possible,also my input volume.So i have a clipped sound.When I use
> my send function from my mixing table,I can adjust so it doesn't clip
> or just a little.Is this normal??
> Also,and this is with all my presets,whenever I give a little
> distortion
> it directly overdrives (pre- and post filter).i can go from 0 to 1 or
> to 2 distortion level,but if I go to level 3 it makes an big jump in
> distortion level,going from level 3 till 99 doesn't make much
> difference .Does annybody has an explanation for this?Any help would
> be
> welcome.
>
> Thanx in advance
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hey Richard,thanx for the quick response.I will check out my output 
level this night and let you know if that was the problem(I hope so).

Greeting

Peter aka Grok



--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Scott" 
<richardscott@b...> wrote:
> You don't tell us what output level you are using., which is the 
most 
> important thing.  If you have it set at 100 that will explain it. 
The evo 
> has a lot of volume and distorts easily. I normally run the output 
at no 
> more than 39, if you still have clipping at this level I'd suspect 
a fault
> 
> Richard
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "colpaertpeter" <therealcolpaertpeter@h...>
> To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:13 PM
> Subject: [Evolver] Strange overload fx-input
> 
> 
> > Hello
> >
> > Here's another newbie and proud owner of a evolver.Just now,I've
> > started using my evolver as a fx-unit.Very nice,BUT.....I work 
with
> > an
> > audio patchbay before all my audio signals go into my mixer.So 
when I
> > divert my audio from my soundcart (echo 24) straight into my
> > evolver,the sound clips all the time,even if I put my input gain 
as
> > low
> > as possible,also my input volume.So i have a clipped sound.When I 
use
> > my send function from my mixing table,I can adjust so it doesn't 
clip
> > or just a little.Is this normal??
> > Also,and this is with all my presets,whenever I give a little
> > distortion
> > it directly overdrives (pre- and post filter).i can go from 0 to 
1 or
> > to 2 distortion level,but if I go to level 3 it makes an big jump 
in
> > distortion level,going from level 3 till 99 doesn't make much
> > difference .Does annybody has an explanation for this?Any help 
would

> > be
> > welcome.
> >
> > Thanx in advance
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Hey Richard,thanx for the quick response.I will check out my output 
level this night and let you know if that was the problem(I hope so).

Greeting

Peter aka Grok



--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Scott" 
<richardscott@b...> wrote:
> You don't tell us what output level you are using., which is the 
most 
> important thing.  If you have it set at 100 that will explain it. 
The evo 
> has a lot of volume and distorts easily. I normally run the output 
at no 
> more than 39, if you still have clipping at this level I'd suspect 
a fault
> 
> Richard
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "colpaertpeter" <therealcolpaertpeter@h...>
> To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:13 PM
> Subject: [Evolver] Strange overload fx-input
> 
> 
> > Hello
> >
> > Here's another newbie and proud owner of a evolver.Just now,I've
> > started using my evolver as a fx-unit.Very nice,BUT.....I work 
with
> > an
> > audio patchbay before all my audio signals go into my mixer.So 
when I
> > divert my audio from my soundcart (echo 24) straight into my
> > evolver,the sound clips all the time,even if I put my input gain 
as
> > low
> > as possible,also my input volume.So i have a clipped sound.When I 
use
> > my send function from my mixing table,I can adjust so it doesn't 
clip
> > or just a little.Is this normal??
> > Also,and this is with all my presets,whenever I give a little
> > distortion
> > it directly overdrives (pre- and post filter).i can go from 0 to 
1 or
> > to 2 distortion level,but if I go to level 3 it makes an big jump 
in
> > distortion level,going from level 3 till 99 doesn't make much
> > difference .Does annybody has an explanation for this?Any help 
would

> > be
> > welcome.
> >
> > Thanx in advance
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

I've found the reason for the input clipping,but I don't know if this 
is normal.If I change the output settings of my Echo Soundcard from 
+10 to -4 db then I can adjust the inputlevel on my evolver untill 
the clipping stops.But I always work with my soundcard on +10 db,is 
this signal then to hot for the evolver?I like more the sound if its 
on + 10 db (I always take care that my souncart doesn't clip).
If i mute the input level and the output level on my evolver (as an 
FX in) there is no output (logical) but it still's clipping.Why 
doesn't the input level prevent this?That I don't understand.

Richard 

You where right about the volume level.If i adjust the variuos 
volumes I can use the distortion in a normal way.
Thanx

Peter


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "colpaertpeter" 
<therealcolpaertpeter@h...> wrote:
> Hey Richard,thanx for the quick response.I will check out my output 
> level this night and let you know if that was the problem(I hope 
so).
> 
> Greeting
> 
> Peter aka Grok
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Scott" 
> <richardscott@b...> wrote:
> > You don't tell us what output level you are using., which is the 
> most 
> > important thing.  If you have it set at 100 that will explain it. 
> The evo 
> > has a lot of volume and distorts easily. I normally run the 
output 
> at no 
> > more than 39, if you still have clipping at this level I'd 
suspect 
> a fault
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "colpaertpeter" <therealcolpaertpeter@h...>
> > To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:13 PM
> > Subject: [Evolver] Strange overload fx-input
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > Here's another newbie and proud owner of a evolver.Just now,I've
> > > started using my evolver as a fx-unit.Very nice,BUT.....I work 
> with
> > > an
> > > audio patchbay before all my audio signals go into my mixer.So 
> when I
> > > divert my audio from my soundcart (echo 24) straight into my
> > > evolver,the sound clips all the time,even if I put my input 
gain 
> as
> > > low
> > > as possible,also my input volume.So i have a clipped sound.When 
I 
> use
> > > my send function from my mixing table,I can adjust so it 
doesn't 
> clip
> > > or just a little.Is this normal??
> > > Also,and this is with all my presets,whenever I give a little
> > > distortion
> > > it directly overdrives (pre- and post filter).i can go from 0 
to 
> 1 or
> > > to 2 distortion level,but if I go to level 3 it makes an big 
jump 

> in
> > > distortion level,going from level 3 till 99 doesn't make much
> > > difference .Does annybody has an explanation for this?Any help 
> would
> > > be
> > > welcome.
> > >
> > > Thanx in advance
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

"colpaertpeter" <therealcolpaertpeter@...> writes:
> If i mute the input level and the output level on my evolver (as an 
> FX in) there is no output (logical) but it still's clipping.Why 
> doesn't the input level prevent this?That I don't understand.

Just to be sure -- when you say "input level", do you mean the global
 "Input Gain" parameter, or the per-patch "Ext In Vol" parameter?
 What's the other set to?

-Miles
-- 
.Numeric stability is probably not all that important when you're guessing.

Hello Miles

Input gain is set to 0 db and the patch "ext In Vol" is also set to o.
So there is no output sound ,but still clipping.Clipping stops if i 
adjust the level of my soundcard from +10 db to -4 db

Greetings
peter




In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Miles Bader <miles@g...> wrote:
> "colpaertpeter" <therealcolpaertpeter@h...> writes:
> > If i mute the input level and the output level on my evolver (as an 
> > FX in) there is no output (logical) but it still's clipping.Why 
> > doesn't the input level prevent this?That I don't understand.
> 
> Just to be sure -- when you say "input level", do you mean the global
>  "Input Gain" parameter, or the per-patch "Ext In Vol" parameter?
>  What's the other set to?
> 
> -Miles
> -- 
> .Numeric stability is probably not all that important when you're 
guessing.

Hello Miles

Input gain is set to 0 db and the patch "ext In Vol" is also set to o.
So there is no output sound ,but still clipping.Clipping stops if i 
adjust the level of my soundcard from +10 db to -4 db

Greetings
peter




In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Miles Bader <miles@g...> wrote:
> "colpaertpeter" <therealcolpaertpeter@h...> writes:
> > If i mute the input level and the output level on my evolver (as an 
> > FX in) there is no output (logical) but it still's clipping.Why 
> > doesn't the input level prevent this?That I don't understand.
> 
> Just to be sure -- when you say "input level", do you mean the global
>  "Input Gain" parameter, or the per-patch "Ext In Vol" parameter?
>  What's the other set to?
> 
> -Miles
> -- 
> .Numeric stability is probably not all that important when you're 
guessing.