Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Hi!

I'm a PEK owner and I have a question regarding envelop trig. It seams 
that the sequencer does not trig the envelopes (Filter) the same way 
as when I play manually on the keyboard.
If I create a sound using some normal filter envelope settings, turn 
up the Filter envelope amount and then record a sequence on the 
internal sequencer (Seq1). After setting the destination to control 
all oscillators pitch the sound does not sound the same. I have to 
turn up the Filter Envelope amount to get the same sound. What I'm I 
doing wrong?

Best regards
Demokid

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "demokid2000" <demokid2000@...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> 
> I'm a PEK owner and I have a question regarding envelop trig. It seams 
> that the sequencer does not trig the envelopes (Filter) the same way 
> as when I play manually on the keyboard.
> If I create a sound using some normal filter envelope settings, turn 
> up the Filter envelope amount and then record a sequence on the 
> internal sequencer (Seq1). After setting the destination to control 
> all oscillators pitch the sound does not sound the same. I have to 
> turn up the Filter Envelope amount to get the same sound. What I'm I 
> doing wrong?
> 
> Best regards
> Demokid
>


DK,
  Perhaps one of your settings is the Keyboard Amount in the filter section - if this is part 
of your patch, then the filters will open wider the higher the key pressed, but *not* for 
triggered notes from the sequencer, as there are no actual 'keys' being pressed. There is 
no 'osc follow' for the filter, and since the sequencer is changing oscillator pitches rather 
than pressing keys, the filter cutoff remains at a constant frequency rather than adjusting 
itself. One thing you can try to be certain that this is what's causing it is to play some 
notes from the keyboard while your sequence is playing - those notes should sound like 
what you wanted the sequence to sound like, but the sequence will still sound dark. I hope 
that is accurate/helpful!
-Mok

"demokid2000" <demokid2000@...> writes:
> If I create a sound using some normal filter envelope settings, turn 
> up the Filter envelope amount and then record a sequence on the 
> internal sequencer (Seq1). After setting the destination to control 
> all oscillators pitch the sound does not sound the same. I have to 
> turn up the Filter Envelope amount to get the same sound. What I'm I 
> doing wrong?

Do you have a non-zero filter-env-velocity setting[*]?  That might explain
it -- keyboard playing will probably have different velocities that
sequencer-triggered notes (I'm not sure what velocity notes triggered by
the sequencer will have ... I guess either 64 or 128 seem possible ??)

[*] Or some other velocity-dependent mod routings

-Miles
-- 
We are all lying in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
-Oscar Wilde

Hi guys!

Thanks for helping me. I have no filter-env-velocity but I guess I 
have some keyboard track on the filter. It is probably that. :) 

Thanks again!

MVH
Demokid 

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "haventwoncrap" <spano@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "demokid2000" <demokid2000@> 
wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I'm a PEK owner and I have a question regarding envelop trig. It 
seams 
> > that the sequencer does not trig the envelopes (Filter) the same 
way 
> > as when I play manually on the keyboard.
> > If I create a sound using some normal filter envelope settings, 
turn 
> > up the Filter envelope amount and then record a sequence on the 
> > internal sequencer (Seq1). After setting the destination to 
control 
> > all oscillators pitch the sound does not sound the same. I have 
to 
> > turn up the Filter Envelope amount to get the same sound. What 
I'm I 
> > doing wrong?
> > 
> > Best regards
> > Demokid
> >
> 
> 
> DK,
>   Perhaps one of your settings is the Keyboard Amount in the 
filter section - if this is part 
> of your patch, then the filters will open wider the higher the key 
pressed, but *not* for 
> triggered notes from the sequencer, as there are no actual 'keys' 
being pressed. There is 
> no 'osc follow' for the filter, and since the sequencer is 
changing oscillator pitches rather 
> than pressing keys, the filter cutoff remains at a constant 
frequency rather than adjusting 
> itself. One thing you can try to be certain that this is what's 
causing it is to play some 
> notes from the keyboard while your sequence is playing - those 
notes should sound like 
> what you wanted the sequence to sound like, but the sequence will 
still sound dark. I hope 

> that is accurate/helpful!
> -Mok
>