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Evolver proposal: feature wishlist creation!

Evolver proposal: feature wishlist creation!

2007-01-11 by mikael altemark

I know I have brought up this earlier in the group - I emailed dave
smith about 6 months ago about a nice feature that would be easy to
implement and make the wavetable possibilities of the evolver grow in
a very nice way. If you think it would be a nice feature, please do
the same thing!

As it is now, when using the wavesequencer the only option is to use
waveform 1-96 or whatever it is - the preset prophet VS waveforms.
Nice as they are, it doesn't make for waldorf:ish scanning through
gradually "interpolated" waveforms. I think one of the most
interesting features of the evolver is the possibility to upload user
waveforms, I use them to for example modulate one digital oscillator
with a very low pitched user waveform to get strange one-shot
envelopes and so on...

I know that the user waveform slots are few, and that the evolver is
the evolver, not a waldorf microwave, but just having the possibility
to scan through user defined interpolated wavetables would enlargen an
already amazingly rich sound palette.

Anyway - Dave wrote that it would be easy to fix so that the user
uploaded waveforms could be included in the wavesequencer, but that I
was the only one who had pointed it out so far.. Perhaps we here on
this list could compile a "feature wishlist" and send DSI? I know
Elektron and other small companies encourage this kind of organized
user feedback.

So, what do you other DSI fans think?

Mikael Altemark

Re: Evolver proposal: feature wishlist creation!

2007-01-11 by xyzt23

It sounds as a nice addition. so 1+ 

There are a few more request:
-Wavetable shapes as lfo waveforms as they are both digital ( so they could syncs and you 
can use the oscs as osc)
-Resonant Highpass would be very nice
- duophonic mode ( 2 mono voices in mono ) would be very nice
-Saturator to prevent clipping AD/DA conversion. ( Clipping is sometimes really annoying ) 
( probable hard to implement, maybe not, I don't know)

that is it for now ;-)


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "mikael altemark" <maltemark@...> wrote:
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>
> I know I have brought up this earlier in the group - I emailed dave
> smith about 6 months ago about a nice feature that would be easy to
> implement and make the wavetable possibilities of the evolver grow in
> a very nice way. If you think it would be a nice feature, please do
> the same thing!
> 
> As it is now, when using the wavesequencer the only option is to use
> waveform 1-96 or whatever it is - the preset prophet VS waveforms.
> Nice as they are, it doesn't make for waldorf:ish scanning through
> gradually "interpolated" waveforms. I think one of the most
> interesting features of the evolver is the possibility to upload user
> waveforms, I use them to for example modulate one digital oscillator
> with a very low pitched user waveform to get strange one-shot
> envelopes and so on...
> 
> I know that the user waveform slots are few, and that the evolver is
> the evolver, not a waldorf microwave, but just having the possibility
> to scan through user defined interpolated wavetables would enlargen an
> already amazingly rich sound palette.
> 
> Anyway - Dave wrote that it would be easy to fix so that the user
> uploaded waveforms could be included in the wavesequencer, but that I
> was the only one who had pointed it out so far.. Perhaps we here on
> this list could compile a "feature wishlist" and send DSI? I know
> Elektron and other small companies encourage this kind of organized
> user feedback.
> 
> So, what do you other DSI fans think?
> 
> Mikael Altemark
>

Re: Evolver proposal: feature wishlist creation!

2007-01-12 by haventwoncrap

User waveform sequencing ability would be a great addition to the OS.
However, being a PEK owner, I would love for some of the broken bits
of OS to be fixed before adding new stuff to it. Some of these include:

-Saving program changes in Combo mode

(in Combo mode, many ideas come from tweaking the parts (programs) but
they cannot be saved. Many times the parts can't even be tweaked, and
any tweaking kills the whole combo. It's terrible.)

-"Trigger Select -> Keyboard Only" should work in Program mode

(in Program mode, this option (which you'd use for example to sequence
waveforms without triggering the envelopes) does not work. In fact,
running the sequencer steals voice one and renders it useless. This
can be worked around by loading the program in Combo mode and setting
the part to "Trigger select -> Keyboard Only", but that leads back to
#1 and the failure of that programming choice.)

-Key Follow doesn't work with sequencer

(How many times do I program a patch with some filter tracking and
then try to program a sequence, only to have the sequence sound
nothing like the patch? The sequencer triggers envelopes, but the key
follow only follows actual key presses and not oscillator values. I'm
sure there's some bright reason for this, but it frustrates me every
time.)

-Glide control doesn't work for the sequencer

(Is there no way to glide with the sequencer? That would be cool.)


I guess that last one could go in back of sequencing user waveforms...
Don't get me wrong, I love the PEK, but these things frustrate me to
no end and force me to bail on a work method in favor of a less
intuitive one each time. I had some energy a while back to try to get
this kind of list going, but lost it (probably due to the
frustration...) If you get anywhere with this (or if anyone hears
anything from Dave Smith about anything) please give an update.

Thanks for letting me vent,
Mark


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "mikael altemark" <maltemark@...>
wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I know I have brought up this earlier in the group - I emailed dave
> smith about 6 months ago about a nice feature that would be easy to
> implement and make the wavetable possibilities of the evolver grow in
> a very nice way. If you think it would be a nice feature, please do
> the same thing!
> 
> As it is now, when using the wavesequencer the only option is to use
> waveform 1-96 or whatever it is - the preset prophet VS waveforms.
> Nice as they are, it doesn't make for waldorf:ish scanning through
> gradually "interpolated" waveforms. I think one of the most
> interesting features of the evolver is the possibility to upload user
> waveforms, I use them to for example modulate one digital oscillator
> with a very low pitched user waveform to get strange one-shot
> envelopes and so on...
> 
> I know that the user waveform slots are few, and that the evolver is
> the evolver, not a waldorf microwave, but just having the possibility
> to scan through user defined interpolated wavetables would enlargen an
> already amazingly rich sound palette.
> 
> Anyway - Dave wrote that it would be easy to fix so that the user
> uploaded waveforms could be included in the wavesequencer, but that I
> was the only one who had pointed it out so far.. Perhaps we here on
> this list could compile a "feature wishlist" and send DSI? I know
> Elektron and other small companies encourage this kind of organized
> user feedback.
> 
> So, what do you other DSI fans think?
> 
> Mikael Altemark
>

Re: [Evolver] Re: Evolver proposal: feature wishlist creation!

2007-01-12 by Joe McGinty

I love my PEK, and I'm not the programming wiz that some of you are, but 
I'm having great fun learning.

I use the PEK in my live set, and here are a few features that would be 
helpful:

-It'd be great if you could assign a footswitch to be a "Sequencer 
On/Off" switch.  (Is there an easy way to do this that I'm missing?). I 
was actually surprised that there wasn't a dedicated on-off switch.

-Also, being able to set up one of the Zones in Combo mode to only 
output to a particular MIDI channel (and no local control) would be 
helpful. I often control another module from the PEK.
And vice-versa, controlling a zone  from an external keyboard and not 
locally would be helpful.

cheers,

Joe





haventwoncrap wrote:
>
> User waveform sequencing ability would be a great addition to the OS.
> However, being a PEK owner, I would love for some of the broken bits
> of OS to be fixed before adding new stuff to it. Some of these include:
>
> -Saving program changes in Combo mode
>
> (in Combo mode, many ideas come from tweaking the parts (programs) but
> they cannot be saved. Many times the parts can't even be tweaked, and
> any tweaking kills the whole combo. It's terrible.)
>
> -"Trigger Select -> Keyboard Only" should work in Program mode
>
> (in Program mode, this option (which you'd use for example to sequence
> waveforms without triggering the envelopes) does not work. In fact,
> running the sequencer steals voice one and renders it useless. This
> can be worked around by loading the program in Combo mode and setting
> the part to "Trigger select -> Keyboard Only", but that leads back to
> #1 and the failure of that programming choice.)
>
> -Key Follow doesn't work with sequencer
>
> (How many times do I program a patch with some filter tracking and
> then try to program a sequence, only to have the sequence sound
> nothing like the patch? The sequencer triggers envelopes, but the key
> follow only follows actual key presses and not oscillator values. I'm
> sure there's some bright reason for this, but it frustrates me every
> time.)
>
> -Glide control doesn't work for the sequencer
>
> (Is there no way to glide with the sequencer? That would be cool.)
>
> I guess that last one could go in back of sequencing user waveforms...
> Don't get me wrong, I love the PEK, but these things frustrate me to
> no end and force me to bail on a work method in favor of a less
> intuitive one each time. I had some energy a while back to try to get
> this kind of list going, but lost it (probably due to the
> frustration...) If you get anywhere with this (or if anyone hears
> anything from Dave Smith about anything) please give an update.
>
> Thanks for letting me vent,
> Mark
>
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, "mikael altemark" <maltemark@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I know I have brought up this earlier in the group - I emailed dave
> > smith about 6 months ago about a nice feature that would be easy to
> > implement and make the wavetable possibilities of the evolver grow in
> > a very nice way. If you think it would be a nice feature, please do
> > the same thing!
> >
> > As it is now, when using the wavesequencer the only option is to use
> > waveform 1-96 or whatever it is - the preset prophet VS waveforms.
> > Nice as they are, it doesn't make for waldorf:ish scanning through
> > gradually "interpolated" waveforms. I think one of the most
> > interesting features of the evolver is the possibility to upload user
> > waveforms, I use them to for example modulate one digital oscillator
> > with a very low pitched user waveform to get strange one-shot
> > envelopes and so on...
> >
> > I know that the user waveform slots are few, and that the evolver is
> > the evolver, not a waldorf microwave, but just having the possibility
> > to scan through user defined interpolated wavetables would enlargen an
> > already amazingly rich sound palette.
> >
> > Anyway - Dave wrote that it would be easy to fix so that the user
> > uploaded waveforms could be included in the wavesequencer, but that I
> > was the only one who had pointed it out so far.. Perhaps we here on
> > this list could compile a "feature wishlist" and send DSI? I know
> > Elektron and other small companies encourage this kind of organized
> > user feedback.
> >
> > So, what do you other DSI fans think?
> >
> > Mikael Altemark
> >
>
>  

-- 
Joe McGinty

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Re: [Evolver] Re: Evolver proposal: feature wishlist creation!

2007-01-12 by marzzz@aol.com

I would like it if the PEK did not make sounds while you were scrolling through presets- I believe that is a bug DSI is aware of.

Also, I would like the option of when you tweak a parameter, either it stays on the last parameter tweaked (current default) or it changes back to the Program Menu after several (5? 10?) seconds. If you are playing and tweaking parameters, then need to switch programs, it requires an extra button push to get back to the program menu. Not a biggie, but it can be important in live performance if you are playing the knobs then need to change programs quickly.

-Marshall

Re: [Evolver] Re: Evolver proposal: feature wishlist creation!

2007-01-12 by Dale (Inquisitor Betrayer)

I will be at NAMM next week. I plan to stop by and say hi to Dave but
would not it also be just as easy to send this to support "@" DaveSmithInstruments.com ?
dale

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:27 PM
Subject: [Evolver] Re: Evolver proposal: feature wishlist creation!

User waveform sequencing ability would be a great addition to the OS.
However, being a PEK owner, I would love for some of the broken bits
of OS to be fixed before adding new stuff to it. Some of these include:

-Saving program changes in Combo mode

(in Combo mode, many ideas come from tweaking the parts (programs) but
they cannot be saved. Many times the parts can't even be tweaked, and
any tweaking kills the whole combo. It's terrible.)

-"Trigger Select -> Keyboard Only" should work in Program mode

(in Program mode, this option (which you'd use for example to sequence
waveforms without triggering the envelopes) does not work. In fact,
running the sequencer steals voice one and renders it useless. This
can be worked around by loading the program in Combo mode and setting
the part to "Trigger select -> Keyboard Only", but that leads back to
#1 and the failure of that programming choice.)

-Key Follow doesn't work with sequencer

(How many times do I program a patch with some filter tracking and
then try to program a sequence, only to have the sequence sound
nothing like the patch? The sequencer triggers envelopes, but the key
follow only follows actual key presses and not oscillator values. I'm
sure there's some bright reason for this, but it frustrates me every
time.)

-Glide control doesn't work for the sequencer

(Is there no way to glide with the sequencer? That would be cool.)


I guess that last one could go in back of sequencing user waveforms...
Don't get me wrong, I love the PEK, but these things frustrate me to
no end and force me to bail on a work method in favor of a less
intuitive one each time. I had some energy a while back to try to get
this kind of list going, but lost it (probably due to the
frustration...) If you get anywhere with this (or if anyone hears
anything from Dave Smith about anything) please give an update.

Thanks for letting me vent,
Mark

Re: [Evolver] Evolver proposal: feature wishlist creation!

2007-01-14 by William Soraparu

Yes, the PEK could stand an upgrade in features....Dave needs to get hopping!
Bill

mikael altemark wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
I know I have brought up this earlier in the group - I emailed dave
smith about 6 months ago about a nice feature that would be easy to
implement and make the wavetable possibilities of the evolver grow in
a very nice way. If you think it would be a nice feature, please do
the same thing!

As it is now, when using the wavesequencer the only option is to use
waveform 1-96 or whatever it is - the preset prophet VS waveforms.
Nice as they are, it doesn't make for waldorf:ish scanning through
gradually "interpolated" waveforms. I think one of the most
interesting features of the evolver is the possibility to upload user
waveforms, I use them to for example modulate one digital oscillator
with a very low pitched user waveform to get strange one-shot
envelopes and so on...

I know that the user waveform slots are few, and that the evolver is
the evolver, not a waldorf microwave, but just having the possibility
to scan through user defined interpolated wavetables would enlargen an
already amazingly rich sound palette.

Anyway - Dave wrote that it would be easy to fix so that the user
uploaded waveforms could be included in the wavesequencer, but that I
was the only one who had pointed it out so far.. Perhaps we here on
this list could compile a "feature wishlist" and send DSI? I know
Elektron and other small companies encourage this kind of organized
user feedback.

So, what do you other DSI fans think?

Mikael Altemark

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