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Evolver DCO popping

Evolver DCO popping

2009-07-11 by Anu Kirk

Ok gang, I am about to ruin your Evolver.

I read this post:
http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49602&start=0&hilit=dco+pop

...and I said, "No this is ridiculous, I have had an Evolver for 4+ years. I've never heard this."

So I got home, dialed up a simple patch. It's true, it's there, and now that I've heard it, I can't STOP hearing it.

To repro:
Create a simple patch using the ANALOG oscillators - one or two. Make sure the envelopes have short attacks.

Play enough low notes that you cycle all the voices your evolver setup has on the low note - one note should be sufficient for standard MONO setups, 4 for standard POLYs. So, tap a low C 1-4 times.

Now start to tap some high notes - an octave or two above middle C.

Listen. What you will hear is that each voice that transitions from a low note to a high note will produce an audible "clopping" - a wide-frequency glitch/click as each voice goes from the low note to the high note.

Apparently it can't be fixed.

The digital oscillators don't have this issue.

Re: [DSI Synths] Evolver DCO popping

2009-07-11 by Computer Controlled

I know the Mopho has this issue, but i don't ever remember hearing it on 
the Evo. I'll have to give it a listen. But even the popping on the 
Mopho didn't bother me. I just chalked it up to the it's fast EGs =o]


Anu Kirk wrote:
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> Ok gang, I am about to ruin your Evolver.
>
> I read this post:
> http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49602&start=0&hilit=dco+pop
>
> ...and I said, "No this is ridiculous, I have had an Evolver for 4+ years. I've never heard this."
>
> So I got home, dialed up a simple patch. It's true, it's there, and now that I've heard it, I can't STOP hearing it.
>
> To repro:
> Create a simple patch using the ANALOG oscillators - one or two. Make sure the envelopes have short attacks.
>
> Play enough low notes that you cycle all the voices your evolver setup has on the low note - one note should be sufficient for standard MONO setups, 4 for standard POLYs. So, tap a low C 1-4 times.
>
> Now start to tap some high notes - an octave or two above middle C.
>
> Listen. What you will hear is that each voice that transitions from a low note to a high note will produce an audible "clopping" - a wide-frequency glitch/click as each voice goes from the low note to the high note.
>
> Apparently it can't be fixed.
>
> The digital oscillators don't have this issue.
>
>
>
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Re: [DSI Synths] Evolver DCO popping

2009-07-11 by yea

Well, since we've all been happily making music with them for a good number of years now, I doubt this is a "ruiner".

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Computer Controlled <acidted@...> wrote:
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>
> I know the Mopho has this issue, but i don't ever remember hearing it on 
> the Evo. I'll have to give it a listen. But even the popping on the 
> Mopho didn't bother me. I just chalked it up to the it's fast EGs =o]
> 
> 
> Anu Kirk wrote:
> > Ok gang, I am about to ruin your Evolver.
> >
> > I read this post:
> > http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49602&start=0&hilit=dco+pop
> >
> > ...and I said, "No this is ridiculous, I have had an Evolver for 4+ years. I've never heard this."
> >
> > So I got home, dialed up a simple patch. It's true, it's there, and now that I've heard it, I can't STOP hearing it.
> >
> > To repro:
> > Create a simple patch using the ANALOG oscillators - one or two. Make sure the envelopes have short attacks.
> >
> > Play enough low notes that you cycle all the voices your evolver setup has on the low note - one note should be sufficient for standard MONO setups, 4 for standard POLYs. So, tap a low C 1-4 times.
> >
> > Now start to tap some high notes - an octave or two above middle C.
> >
> > Listen. What you will hear is that each voice that transitions from a low note to a high note will produce an audible "clopping" - a wide-frequency glitch/click as each voice goes from the low note to the high note.
> >
> > Apparently it can't be fixed.
> >
> > The digital oscillators don't have this issue.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [DSI Synths] Evolver DCO popping

2009-07-11 by massimo

Well there was some interesting discussion, including the suggestion that an option to have the oscs reset on note-on might stop the effect.

I don't consider it a problem really.
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Re: [DSI Synths] Evolver DCO popping

2009-07-11 by Robert Krueger

I tested this on my PER and at first I didn't think what you described was happening. I was listening for a higher pitched audible click of some sort. But then after a few more times I picked up on it. I thought I was hearing the sound of my microKontrol mini keys hitting the the bottom of the board, but it disappeared after cycling through the voices and realized that was what you were describing. It is there, but if you hadn't mentioned it, I likely never would have realized it. Blended into a mix I doubt you would hear it at all. It's not terrible, but in a critical listen, you can hear it once you find it.
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On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:34 AM, massimo <massenmedium@...> wrote:


Well there was some interesting discussion, including the suggestion that an option to have the oscs reset on note-on might stop the effect.

I don't consider it a problem really.


Re: [DSI Synths] Evolver DCO popping

2009-07-11 by Horton

I actually kind of like it....extra punch



On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Robert
Krueger<robert.krueger@...> wrote:
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>
> I tested this on my PER and at first I didn't think what you described was
> happening. I was listening for a higher pitched audible click of some sort.
> But then after a few more times I picked up on it. I thought I was hearing
> the sound of my microKontrol mini keys hitting the the bottom of the board,
> but it disappeared after cycling through the voices and realized that was
> what you were describing.  It is there, but if you hadn't mentioned it, I
> likely never would have realized it. Blended into a mix I doubt you would
> hear it at all. It's not terrible, but in a critical listen, you can hear it
> once you find it.
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:34 AM, massimo <massenmedium@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well there was some interesting discussion, including the suggestion that
>> an option to have the oscs reset on note-on might stop the effect.
>>
>> I don't consider it a problem really.
>>
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