Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Hi All,

Does anyone else have a problem with the keyboard mode select?  No 
matter what setting I choose - low note, high note, last note with or 
without retrig - my Evolver responds only to the first key pressed 
and ignores the rest.

I've checked the Trigger mode (set to all) so I know that fine. I 
have tried this from three different keyboards - my Wavestation, Nord 
LEad 3 and Novation MM10 - and it is the save for all so I know the 
keyboard is not to blame.

Any thoughts???

Reagrds,
Gary

On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:15:37 -0000, "mr_rock <mr_rock@...>"
<mr_rock@...> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Does anyone else have a problem with the keyboard mode select?  No 
>matter what setting I choose - low note, high note, last note with or 
>without retrig - my Evolver responds only to the first key pressed 
>and ignores the rest.

Personally I only use Last Note as I found the touch response of the
others all to be slightly "odd"... I kept meaning to really spend time
working it all out but, well, I haven't... 8)

Paul

I could live with Last Note.  What it's doing is First Note - which 
is more than slightly annoying. Makes my CS-15 more 'playable' at the 
moment - not better - just more playable. :)

Off I go to fiddle with it a bit more...

Regards,
Gary

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:15:37 -0000, "mr_rock <mr_rock@c...>"
> <mr_rock@c...> wrote:
> 
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Does anyone else have a problem with the keyboard mode select?  No 
> >matter what setting I choose - low note, high note, last note with 
or 
> >without retrig - my Evolver responds only to the first key pressed 
> >and ignores the rest.
> 
> Personally I only use Last Note as I found the touch response of the
> others all to be slightly "odd"... I kept meaning to really spend 
time

> working it all out but, well, I haven't... 8)
> 
> Paul

You might have a a look at the Poly Chain setting and make sure it is
set to OFF if you only have one Evolver, this caused me much issue with
the symptoms you are describing until Dave sorted it out for me.

Don

> 
> 
> I could live with Last Note.  What it's doing is First Note - which 
> is more than slightly annoying. Makes my CS-15 more 'playable' at the 
> moment - not better - just more playable. :)
> 
> Off I go to fiddle with it a bit more...
> 
> Regards,
> Gary
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:15:37 -0000, "mr_rock <mr_rock@c...>" 
> > <mr_rock@c...> wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >Does anyone else have a problem with the keyboard mode select?  No
> > >matter what setting I choose - low note, high note, last note with 
> or 
> > >without retrig - my Evolver responds only to the first key pressed
> > >and ignores the rest.
> > 
> > Personally I only use Last Note as I found the touch 
> response of the 
> > others all to be slightly "odd"... I kept meaning to really spend
> time
> > working it all out but, well, I haven't... 8)
> > 
> > Paul
>

Gary, mine works exactly as advertised, though I rarely use anything 
other than "Last Note" priority.  

I assume you're familiar with how this feature is SUPPOSED to work?  
If so, and it's NOT working the way it should, I think Don is 
probably correct - most likely the Poly Chain setting may be on, and 
should be switched off.

So you have a CS-15?  That is a *really* sweet little synth.  With 
all due respect to Dr. Bob, I think that the CS-15 (with it's dual 
filters, amps, and envelopes) is an even better bass synth machine 
than a Minimoog.  I have a 1977 CS-30L in absolutely brand new 
condition.  It has lots more features, but an absolutely horrible 
front panel layout compared to the CS-15.  IMO, the CS-15 probably 
has the best front panel layout/organization of any synth made, and 
it makes for a great teaching tool.


Ski
www.ex5tech.com
EX5Tech Evolver forum:
http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "mr_rock <mr_rock@c...>" 
<mr_rock@c...> wrote:
> 
> I could live with Last Note.  What it's doing is First Note - which 
> is more than slightly annoying. Makes my CS-15 more 'playable' at 
the 
> moment - not better - just more playable. :)
> 
> Off I go to fiddle with it a bit more...
> 
> Regards,
> Gary
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:15:37 -0000, "mr_rock <mr_rock@c...>"
> > <mr_rock@c...> wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >Does anyone else have a problem with the keyboard mode select?  
No 
> > >matter what setting I choose - low note, high note, last note 
with 
> or 
> > >without retrig - my Evolver responds only to the first key 
pressed 
> > >and ignores the rest.
> > 
> > Personally I only use Last Note as I found the touch response of 
the

> > others all to be slightly "odd"... I kept meaning to really spend 
> time
> > working it all out but, well, I haven't... 8)
> > 
> > Paul

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech <ex5tech@e...>" 
<ex5tech@e...> wrote:
> Gary, mine works exactly as advertised, though I rarely use
> anything other than "Last Note" priority. 
> 
> I assume you're familiar with how this feature is SUPPOSED
> to work? If so, and it's NOT working the way it should, I think
> Don is probably correct - most likely the Poly Chain setting may
> be on, and should be switched off.

Yea, I'm familiar with how it ought to work.  I'm kind of used to 
High Note priority (like the CS-15) but Low Note... Ugh!  I hadn't 
considered the Poly Chain setting - probably got changed during wild  
knob tweaking. :)

> So you have a CS-15?  That is a *really* sweet little synth.

I'm proud to say I'm the original owner.  My parents got it for me 
when I was in high school ('81) and I've had it ever since.

It is a nice unit, especially the external in.  I've had lots of fun 
running my guitar through it.

> With all due respect to Dr. Bob, I think that the CS-15 (with
> it's dual filters, amps, and envelopes) is an even better bass
> synth machine than a Minimoog.

You can get some really nice, unique sounds from it.

> I have a 1977 CS-30L in absolutely brand new condition.  It has
> lots more features, but an absolutely horrible front panel layout
> compared to the CS-15.  IMO, the CS-15 probably has the best front
> panel layout/organization of any synth made, and it makes for a
> great teaching tool.

In collage, I took an electronic music course at Hofstra taught by 
Herbert Deutsch.  He worked with Dr. Bob on the original Moog 
Modular - one of which is a part of the lab there.  I already 
understood the whole subtractive synthesis thing mainly from playing 
with my CS-15.  I have to agree that as a teaching tool (as well an 
an instrument) it's a great synth.


> 
> 
> Ski
> www.ex5tech.com
> EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
> 
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "mr_rock <mr_rock@c...>" 
> <mr_rock@c...> wrote:
> > 
> > I could live with Last Note.  What it's doing is First Note - 
which 
> > is more than slightly annoying. Makes my CS-15 more 'playable' at 
> the 
> > moment - not better - just more playable. :)
> > 
> > Off I go to fiddle with it a bit more...
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Gary
> > 
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:15:37 -0000, "mr_rock <mr_rock@c...>"
> > > <mr_rock@c...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Hi All,
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone else have a problem with the keyboard mode 
select?  
> No 
> > > >matter what setting I choose - low note, high note, last note 
> with 
> > or 
> > > >without retrig - my Evolver responds only to the first key 
> pressed 
> > > >and ignores the rest.
> > > 
> > > Personally I only use Last Note as I found the touch response 
of 
> the
> > > others all to be slightly "odd"... I kept meaning to really 
spend 

> > time
> > > working it all out but, well, I haven't... 8)
> > > 
> > > Paul

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" 
<noision1@h...> wrote:
> I am unclear from your post. Are you saying that if you hit a note,
> you hear it, then if you take your finger off, then hit another
> note, you hear nothing? If so, that is very wrong.

Not the case.

> On the other hand, if you are saying that if you hold down note
> one and press a second key you don't hear the second note take over
> and cut out the first even if you have LAST NOTE chosen, then that
> is wierd too.

Bingo!

> Perhaps make sure you don't have a silent sequence going on . .
> OR make sure you midi set up is not causing problems, ie. try the
> evolver with midi in only just in case you are setting up a midi
> loop.

No sequence running.  Really simple midi setup: keyboard midi out to 
evolver midi in - nothing else.

As was suggested, I'm off to check the Poly chain setting.


Regards,
Gary

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Don Gothard" <gothard@s...>
> wrote:
> You might have a a look at the Poly Chain setting and make sure
> it is set to OFF if you only have one Evolver, this caused me much
> issue with the symptoms you are describing until Dave sorted it
> out for me.
> 
> Don

Sure enough, Poly Chain was on.  I set it to off and once again, all 
is right with the world.  :)

Thanks Don!

Regards,
Gary