--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsonly2002" <dan@n...> wrote: I thought I was the only one who loved Yamaha > pads. Just to put my two cents into the pot. I've been drumming for > over 20 years. Roland has a bigger following, > and that's fine with me, but the Xtreme is very under rated. The > entire line of DTX samples and modules, under rated. Why? Under > hyped. In this group, we can amass a lot of years of experience. I have forty years of drumming, and was much relieved at the mesh head revolution in e-drums because it made e-drumming more like a- drumming. The truth is that Roland owns this market, with its formidable patents, thus keeping Yamaha, and others, at least at some disadvantage if not completely nonplussed. I don't happen to like Roland mesh heads (the skins, that is); the Harts are worlds better, especially the recently discontinued two-plies (ask Roland about their demise). Yamaha, too, would have offered a woven-head option had Roland left the door open. But Yamaha seems to have benefited from the misfortune; they concentrated on creating a great rubber pad instead. I'd love to know how they arrived at it. I'm envisioning lots of computer modeling and material research, intense trial and error, and firsthand contribution from Yamaha's renowned stable of drummers. Anyway, at the lower end of the market, Yamaha has certainly held its own; the DTXpress is a whopping success. The relative failure of the first DTXtreme vis a vis the Roland high end, however, might not have boded well for its successor. But what a pleasant surprise. As I said, the physical response of the pads leaves nothing to be desired. Interestingly, the cymbals feel (and work) a lot like Roland's (people in the industry have wondered why the similarity seems to have escaped Roland). I like what I've heard of the module, too, though I have a long way to go in plumbling its depths. Despite its innovations, Roland's TD- 20 seems like more of the same from that company to me--not necessarily a bad thing if you're a Roland fan with deep pockets, but if COSM and $2,000 are not your idea of a good time, the Yamaha picks up big points at barely a grand. As far as I'm concerned, the ten- year-old ddrum module still sets the standard in speed, sound, dynamics, and simplicity (ergonomic and processing). But the price paid for this elegance is financially and practically steep. It costs a lot for what it doesn't do: MIDI functionality is seriously limited, its computing ability sadly dated, and its hi hat is largely proprietary. So, in comes the Yamaha; we need to know how it acts with components from other companies. I hope that more and more information on that score is forthcoming from early adopters in the groups, as well as from Hart, which seems to have plans to test (I've heard that one before), and Pintech. Before he left Pintech, Brian LaRue had major plans for producing components compatible with the new Yamaha modules, and some of them have seen the light of day. But let's hope that Pintech's engine hasn't stalled since his departure. Ed
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Re: DTXtreme2S and Roland TD-20
2004-08-11 by emf
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