Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "guynthomas" <guynthomas@y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "vap19592000" <vap19592000@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > I have this adventurous idea of hooking up a GOOD quality DUAL 
> band 
> > > (left channel and right channel) graphic equaliser to my 
> existing 
> > > setup....just to experiment, if I am able to "TWEAK" the final 
> KIT 
> > > sound output. Perhaps to add some brightness to my drum voices 
> or 
> > kit 
> > > sounds. I am using a ROLAND "KC500", for amplification. The 
> final 
> > > output is fed to the band mixer, from the KC500.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone experimented with a GOOD GRAPHIC EQUALISER? If so, 
> > > 
> > > 1. Which particular EQUALISER would be a good choice?
> > > 2. How will the EQUALISER connect between the DTXpress and the 
> > KC500? 
> > > and finally
> > > 3. Does the equaliser introduction IMPROVE the sound?
> > 
> > I'll be the sacrificial purist here. My feeling is that 
> equalization 
> > is valuable only as a last resort when something is definitely 
> wrong 
> > with the sound, either because the source hardware/software is  
> > faulty, or the room is diminishing or intensifying certain 
> > frequencies. Otherwise, everything placed in the path of the 
> original 
> > signal is yet another way to degrade the signal, and the typical 
> > equalizer is a prime offender in that regard. Granted, no room 
> except 
> > an anechoic chamber can offer flat response (and certainly few 
> > components), but identifying and correcting room-related troubles 
> is 
> > not a simple search and destroy procedure. Of course, you are 
> always 
> > free to tinker and experiment with sound, and it can be a gas, 
but 
> > don't assume that you won't thereby introduce new problems. If 
the 
> > original sounds are deficient, the gain from equalization will 
> make 
> > them even more pronounced. I told you that I was a purist.
> > 
> > One way to approach this issue is to get a decent mixer with a 
few 
> > bands of eq for each channel. It might be overkill to run only 
the 
> > stereo output of the DTXpress through it, but it might come in 
> more 
> > handly if you connect a CD player etc. to it and/or add a second 
> > module or other instruments. You'll have more control over 
> relative 
> > levels, effects, and equalization if you need/want it. As an 
> example, 
> > I currently use a Yamaha mixer to handle four to six channels 
from 
> my 
> > ddrum module and two from a Yamaha module, as well as a CD player 
> and 
> > anything else that becomes necessary. I generally listen through 
> > headphones and add no equalization at all.
> > 
> > Ed
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Good explanation ED.
> 
> Further to that here goes for some more stuff for you.
> 
> As ED Eluded to most multi band EQ's are used in large sound 
> reinforcement applications to accommodate the room and system 
> defects.
> Using the likes of Pink noise a flat power level can be set across 
> all the frequency bands (With good engineers and equipment.)
> 
> If you want to change the sound of the drum kit I would personal 
> recommend you find yourself a `parametric EQ'
> This will enable you to select the frequency you ant to affect and 
> the extent around that frequency.
> 
> Most Mixers have 3 band EQ's which are not appropriate for 
modifying 
> Drum sound effectively. (Having said that as ED says above I use a 
> Yamaha mixer and don't have any EQ gain or cut)
> 
> High professional Mixing consoles have such EQ's . (But not the 
> normal use ones)
> 
> Here are a list of frequency ranges and there effect on drum kits 
it 
> may be of use to start cutting or adding gain.
> 
> 80 Hz 		Boost adds weight to Kick and Toms
> 120-150 Hz 	Boost adds punch to toms and snare
> 6 kHz 		Boost adds sizzle to Cymbals
> 1-2 kHz 	Boost adds definition to snare
> 150-250Hz 	Cut reduces boxiness
> 1 kHz 		Cut reduces harshness
> 
> IF you wish I have a lot more detailed info on Frequency effects.
> The most important thing though is what does it sound like. The 
> above may give you a point to start at but it's down to personal 
> preferences.
> 
> Good luck and contact if you want any more.
> 
> Guy


INTERESTING!!!!!!! Thanks EMF and GUY for your knowledgeable feedback.

GUY...What is a "PARAMETRIC" EQ?? How different is it from an 
ordinary EQ? The frequency ranges you listed above would be of 
enormous help to me, as This is exactly what I am trying to 
achieve...more information would be valuable.
BTW: How would I "introduce" the EQ to my setup? (connections)

Thanks to BOTH of you for sharing some useful knowledge!!!